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  • Political muslims
     OP - December 17, 2009, 07:28 PM

    I married my husband 4 years ago he was an easy going Muslim then about 2 years ago he started to change watching lectures day and night then about 1 year ago he started with conspiracy theories and Zionists this and that, calling other Muslims RAND.  Praising Osama bin laden, loving the Taliban, Alqaida going on websites like Anwar al awlaki, revolutional muslim, kavkaz centre and the unjust Media, ansar al mujahideen.  He also sets up youtube acounts spreading these messages by mullah omar or other prominent figures in these circles he always calls these accounts for example "jihad"
    He just changed one day and he is sincere in his belief he is a good guy but I can't stand people like that and I wondering in any of your experiences once a person gets like this will they ever go back to being a regular Muslim or is he just an internet jihadi one of those that's all talk behind a computer or will it get worse.  I don't know who to ask I have no one that understands this.  thanks
  • Re: Political muslims
     Reply #1 - December 17, 2009, 07:54 PM

    My advice: Alert the police so they keep him under surveliance and then continue to live with him. If he does nothing you won't have any problems and if he does try to take part in any terrorist activities, at least it will be intercepted by the authorities.
  • Re: Political muslims
     Reply #2 - December 17, 2009, 07:56 PM

    groups like Hizb al-tahrir, revolution muslim and anwar al-awlaki are very influential. They are nutcases as well.

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  • Re: Political muslims
     Reply #3 - December 17, 2009, 07:58 PM

    Tell him to knock it off... or else.

    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: Political muslims
     Reply #4 - December 17, 2009, 08:23 PM

    I wondering in any of your experiences once a person gets like this will they ever go back to being a regular Muslim or is he just an internet jihadi one of those that's all talk behind a computer or will it get worse. 


    In my experience a lot of these people end up totally burned out. Some of them are no longer Muslim.  Check out Charles Wardle's website (google his name).  OTOH, he could do something *really* stupid and end up in trouble for providing aid and comfort or material support to terrorists.  Tell him to knock it off.  He's putting you both at risk.  Then think deeply about what you will do, what your course of action will be if he's arrested, etc. 

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  • Re: Political muslims
     Reply #5 - December 17, 2009, 08:23 PM

    How did this change start, Sarah?  Was there any particular trigger for it?

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  • Re: Political muslims
     Reply #6 - December 17, 2009, 08:28 PM

    In my experience a lot of these people end up totally burned out. Some of them are no longer Muslim.  Check out Charles Wardle's website (google his name).  OTOH, he could do something *really* stupid and end up in trouble for providing aid and comfort or material support to terrorists.  Tell him to knock it off.  He's putting you both at risk.  Then think deeply about what you will do, what your course of action will be if he's arrested, etc. 


    Thanks for the link.
  • Re: Political muslims
     Reply #7 - December 18, 2009, 01:06 PM

    I think he started looking into his religion more from loneliness, not seeing his family for so many years.  Thanks everyone for your replies.
  • Re: Political muslims
     Reply #8 - December 18, 2009, 01:50 PM

    Hello Sarah. They do burn out. I do not know how long it takes. On some occasions, when people actually learn about islam, instead of just reciting, when they look long enough, under the hood of the actual scripture, they apostate but it is not that common that you be so lucky.

    More often than not, he will destroy few things on his way to the eventual burn-out.

    My advice is go with him on a trip to Europe. Make him watch beautiful things made by kuffars so to speak.

    And never ever, accept from him the insults that the koran/islamic scripture throws at women. Put him in the doghouse kicking and screaming if he ever mentions you lack intelligence/religion. If he ever mentions the girl should get half an inheritance. If he ever thinks it is okay to beat you (4:34). Your answer should invariably be something like: "Keep your houris fairytale to yourself, now get your ass on the couch, you are sleeping there tonight".

    His answer will always be "But the koran said..". Never fall for it or agree to it. Never discuss koran with him. The koran will always be on his side. If you Two can speak arabic, than it will be worse for you. The English translation tries to make the koran a nicer/modern book. But if he is using Arabic you are more screwed, as the actual Arabic is more backward and cruel.

    I want your ego to become bigger than 'his' koran, if you are to get through this storm. For the sake of your sanity, you have to accept that: "You are always right. 'His' Koran is always a fairytale. Whenever he invokes a fairytale from 'his' koran, than you are right, and 'his' fairytale is a fairytale."

    If ever you seem to be losing ground to his fairytales, than you can come here with specific questions and we can help you. Please mention at the beginning of any thread you open, that you are "not" interested in apostasy, or interested in 'defending' or 'attacking' islam. So people do not start 'arguing' with you and take their frustration against islam on you.

    "Ask the slave girl; she will tell you the truth.' So the Apostle called Burayra to ask her. Ali got up and gave her a violent beating first, saying, 'Tell the Apostle the truth.'"
  • Re: Political muslims
     Reply #9 - December 18, 2009, 02:27 PM

    Thanks for the link.


    http://charleswardle.com/

    That guy is wonderful. He was a militant muslim for a couple of years and is now an ex-muslim studying biology.
  • Re: Political muslims
     Reply #10 - December 18, 2009, 03:13 PM

    http://charleswardle.com/

    That guy is wonderful. He was a militant muslim for a couple of years and is now an ex-muslim studying biology.

    He's a member here and has posted a few times - cant remember his username though..

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  • Re: Political muslims
     Reply #11 - December 18, 2009, 03:20 PM

    Here you go.

    German ex-Muslim forumMy YouTubeList of Ex-Muslims
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    I'm on an indefinite break...
  • Re: Political muslims
     Reply #12 - December 18, 2009, 04:31 PM

    Hi Sarah,

    My advice, along with what has been stated above about alerting the authorities is to get yourself an alternative place to stay, even if it's just a friend's sofa just in case things become unbearable at home with him.  Please, DO NOT GIVE IN to any of his edicts such as staying at home, wearing a burqa, squeezing out as many jihadi babies as possible, etc.

    I was duped into marrying a born Muslim myself but luckily enough my (ex) husband never became hard-core although I found his restricitve lifestyle too stifling for me, hence I made sure NEVER to get pregnant and always kept money aside just in case I'd had enough.

    Hope it all works out okay for you.  far away hug

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  • Re: Political muslims
     Reply #13 - December 18, 2009, 04:51 PM

    Just had a peek around Charles Wardle's site, he looks like he has some interesting videos up. He actually became involved with Lashkar e Taiba, the jihadi group that carried out the terrorist attacks in Mumbai last year. Crazy stuff.



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  • Re: Political muslims
     Reply #14 - December 18, 2009, 04:55 PM

    hence I made sure NEVER to get pregnant

    I thought you said you did become pregnant in another post, or am I getting confused with somebody else Huh?

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