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 Topic: What a great job Allah is doing

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  • What a great job Allah is doing
     OP - December 22, 2009, 09:36 PM

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    1.02 billion people across the world are hungry. 1
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    Every day, almost 16,000 children die from hunger-related causes--one child every five seconds. 2


    be sure to say thanks to Allah for wonderful work  Roll Eyes Zipit

    http://www.bread.org/learn/hunger-basics/hunger-facts-international.html
  • Re: What a great job Allah is doing
     Reply #1 - December 22, 2009, 09:37 PM

    The problem of evil and suffering. No theist can ever answer this shit.

    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: What a great job Allah is doing
     Reply #2 - December 22, 2009, 09:40 PM

    akhi, you have to understand that Allah (swt) is testing us!

    "The more I study religions the more I am convinced that man never worshiped anything but himself."
    ~Sir Richard Francis Burton

    "I think religion is just like smoking: Both invented by people, addictive, harmful, and kills!"
    ~RIBS
  • Re: What a great job Allah is doing
     Reply #3 - December 22, 2009, 09:41 PM

    Exactly  and yet they claim Allah is All Powerful and All Loving.

    This is little kids we are talking about too. So Sad


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    akhi, you have to understand that Allah (swt) is testing us!



    lol the most famous answer from Muslims
  • Re: What a great job Allah is doing
     Reply #4 - December 22, 2009, 09:43 PM

    Isn't there a verse which says that Allah will test us with famine?

    "The more I study religions the more I am convinced that man never worshiped anything but himself."
    ~Sir Richard Francis Burton

    "I think religion is just like smoking: Both invented by people, addictive, harmful, and kills!"
    ~RIBS
  • Re: What a great job Allah is doing
     Reply #5 - December 22, 2009, 09:48 PM

    Yes

    Sura Al Baqarah

    2-155

    "  Be sure we shall test you with something of fear and hunger, some loss in goods or lives or the fruits (of your toil), but give glad tidings to those who patiently persevere,,"
  • Re: What a great job Allah is doing
     Reply #6 - December 22, 2009, 10:24 PM

    What is the point of a test you already know the outcome?


    You only test if you are not sure of the outcome...or expect a certain outcome.

    But God you being omniscient and omnipotent by your own admission...then your test is quite pointless...to you and to us.


    Self-sufficient God needs no such thing.



    Challenge All Ideologies but don't Hate People.
  • Re: What a great job Allah is doing
     Reply #7 - December 23, 2009, 04:07 AM

    certains things in religion are so obvious to how stupid they are yet people still believe in it
  • Re: What a great job Allah is doing
     Reply #8 - December 23, 2009, 06:14 AM

    When I was really devout/practicing I would have to tell myself that kids don't actually starve to death. Because its such a horrible realization. That somebody out there is hungry, starving, and god watches idly by knowing what its like. He can provide manna from heaven in some book, and he can make water overflow from some canister in some hadith, but he cant feed dying children today? That die, because they are literally starving to death?

    I need to revise all of my previous thoughts.

    PS

    Hunger and STARVATION is NOT the same fucking thing. Not meant towards you guys  far away hug but if I hear that excuse someday in the future  finmad
  • Re: What a great job Allah is doing
     Reply #9 - December 23, 2009, 02:36 PM

    When I was really devout/practicing I would have to tell myself that kids don't actually starve to death. Because its such a horrible realization. That somebody out there is hungry, starving, and god watches idly by knowing what its like. He can provide manna from heaven in some book, and he can make water overflow from some canister in some hadith, but he cant feed dying children today? That die, because they are literally starving to death?

    I need to revise all of my previous thoughts.

    I remember you joined earlier this month as an unsure Muslim, where do you stand on Islam at present?

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  • Re: What a great job Allah is doing
     Reply #10 - December 23, 2009, 02:51 PM

    Well... it's getting harder to believe that it's a divine religion. I feel so duped  Cry

    The image of God that I had was one I made. An all loving God, that's not really the image of God in the Quran. The image of heaven that I had is not really supported either, to be with friends and family, to be with loved ones, to know all the knowledge and all the hidden secrets of the world. That's not there either. Besides, the people I love and respect are going to hell simply because they are not Muslims, we're talking Carl Sagan, Albert Einstein, Shakespeare, Michael Jordan, Leonardo Da Vinci, J.K. Rowlings, Tupac (how are you gonna send Pac to hell? The dude kept asking ?Do G?s get to go to heaven?? answer: NOOOO). The Olsen twins. Mozart. Bruce Springsteen (Who in his right mind sends the Boss to hell? Seriously? THE BOSS?) Meanwhile the people I dislike will be in heaven, and some people I fucking hate will also be there; Saddam Hussein, Osama and his 4000 bandits. Plus another assortment of scum.

    Not to mention all the violence in the world, all the poverty. How science has moved us up. How there is so much superstition in the religion. I ask myself, OK cut away all the superstition don?t believe in it, treat all people with respect, believe in all loving God, do what you want to do, treat women with respect, don?t lie, don?t steal, don?t murder. But then I?m not following the religion properly. The entire base of the religion is filled with superstition, and hate and bigotry and incorrect science.

    I'm still reading, but I know one thing I have probably pretty much apostatised even though I tell myself I haven?t; 1. I drink and eat pork, smoke the weed and fuck the ladies (well.. getting there haha). Yes sir Wink 2. I make religious jokes and criticize religion. 3. There is no way in hell that I will ever allow for religious dogma to take over my mind, because of the emotional hold on you, there is no rational hold, there is only fear and guilt.

    But give it some time. I hate group-think, I don?t want to disjoin religion simply to be a part of CEMB or the like. I want to do whatever it is I want do simply because I think it?s the right thing to do.
  • Re: What a great job Allah is doing
     Reply #11 - December 23, 2009, 02:53 PM

    spot on  Afro 

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  • Re: What a great job Allah is doing
     Reply #12 - December 23, 2009, 03:28 PM

    Tupac (how are you gonna send Pac to hell? The dude kept asking ?Do G?s get to go to heaven?? answer: NOOOO). The Olsen twins. Mozart. Bruce Springsteen (Who in his right mind sends the Boss to hell? Seriously? THE BOSS?)


    OK... could an admin transfer my JOTM thingy to Blackdog now??

    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: What a great job Allah is doing
     Reply #13 - December 23, 2009, 04:04 PM

    Also known as the 'rock' of atheism with science coming a close second.

    "The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims. The most perfect slaves are, therefore, those which blissfully and unawaredly enslave themselves."
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