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  • Question: How many ex-muslims have you met face-to-face in your life?  (Voting closed: December 30, 2009, 02:42 PM)
  • 0 - 10 (38.5%)
  • 1 - 5 (19.2%)
  • 2-5 - 7 (26.9%)
  • 6-10 - 3 (11.5%)
  • 11-20 - 0 (0%)
  • 21+ - 1 (3.8%)
  • Total Voters: 26

 Topic: How many ex-muslims have you met personally in your life?

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  • How many ex-muslims have you met personally in your life?
     OP - December 23, 2009, 02:42 PM
    Just wondering, thats all  cool2 -

    (P.S they dont have to have literally said they were ex-muslim, but you knew they were from the way they talked/behaved etc but please exclude people you may have met through COEM)
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  • Re: How many ex-muslims have you met personally in your life?
     Reply #1 - December 23, 2009, 03:22 PM
    Voting results in some weird error.

    2-5.. like a handful. This is over my entire life.
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: How many ex-muslims have you met personally in your life?
     Reply #2 - December 23, 2009, 03:31 PM
    My cousin is the only person I know who ha stold me he does not believe in the Muslim God or any god for that matter.
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  • Re: How many ex-muslims have you met personally in your life?
     Reply #3 - December 23, 2009, 03:33 PM
    I can only think of my cousin and my close friend.
    Be yourself.
  • Re: How many ex-muslims have you met personally in your life?
     Reply #4 - December 23, 2009, 03:39 PM
    I know two family members, one of them died almost a decade ago.
  • Re: How many ex-muslims have you met personally in your life?
     Reply #5 - December 23, 2009, 03:44 PM
    So if I'm not including anyone I've met on CEMB, or other forums I've used?, then just my eldest sister.

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: How many ex-muslims have you met personally in your life?
     Reply #6 - December 23, 2009, 03:52 PM
    Good poll! Will be interesting to see the results.

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  • Re: How many ex-muslims have you met personally in your life?
     Reply #7 - December 23, 2009, 04:08 PM
    21+, yes im serious.

    Well these people aren't actually ex-muslims, yet. Maybe they just dont know it. but some do claim that quran is just made up of stories to guide people nothing more nothing less. some believe in evolution, yet they claim quran is true ( trust me i told them muslims believe in creationism, they all laughed at me and told me thats retarded Tongue) and finally some people who are muslims by name and only prays to god when needed, even they know its useless.
  • Re: How many ex-muslims have you met personally in your life?
     Reply #8 - December 23, 2009, 04:23 PM
    Quote from: BerberElla on December 23, 2009, 03:44 PM
    So if I'm not including anyone I've met on CEMB, or other forums I've used?, then just my eldest sister.

    Did you convert her, or was it vice versa?  Incidentally hows your younger sister doing these days, we need an update 'in the life & times of Berbs' thread  grin12
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  • Re: How many ex-muslims have you met personally in your life?
     Reply #9 - December 23, 2009, 04:26 PM
    Quote from: Aa on December 23, 2009, 04:08 PM
    21+, yes im serious.

    You're from Bangladesh right - I doubt we will get that figure from anyone residing in the west, let alone an islamic nation!  The more I hear about Bangladesh, the more I feel it will be at the forefront for ex-muslims in the future..
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  • Re: How many ex-muslims have you met personally in your life?
     Reply #10 - December 23, 2009, 04:28 PM
    Yeah, we're probably one of the few Muslim societies with a fairly strong secular and atheistic streak.
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
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  • Re: How many ex-muslims have you met personally in your life?
     Reply #11 - December 23, 2009, 04:30 PM
    why is that different from other Muslim nations?
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  • Re: How many ex-muslims have you met personally in your life?
     Reply #12 - December 23, 2009, 04:36 PM
    I think it's simply because of the way the Bengalis were converted and the fact that we're basically an island of muslims in a hindu sea. We might be Muslims... but a Bengali is always a Bengali first. And free-thought, and religious diversity is part of our cultural makeup. Indonesians and Bosnians are similar I'd say.
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
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  • Re: How many ex-muslims have you met personally in your life?
     Reply #13 - December 23, 2009, 04:40 PM
    thats interesting, particularly as there dont seem to be many Bangladeshi suicide bombers.  I wonder whether this is generally true, the more muslim countries you are surrounded by, the more religious a nation gets  Thinking hard
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  • Re: How many ex-muslims have you met personally in your life?
     Reply #14 - December 23, 2009, 04:44 PM
    Bangladesh has had one suicide bombing incident. But it was quickly uncovered and the perpetrators hanged. Honestly, aside from Arabs and Pakistanis.. there really are no other suicide bombing Muslims. You will never see a Bangladeshi, Malaysian, Turk or Iranian blowing himself up among westerners or even themselves (at least its rare). Not 100% sure why.
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: How many ex-muslims have you met personally in your life?
     Reply #15 - December 23, 2009, 04:46 PM
    The Tamil Tigers also used suicide bombers several times didn't they?
    "Modern man's great illusion has been to convince himself that of all that has gone before he represents the zenith of human accomplishment, but can't summon the mental powers to read anything more demanding than emoticons. Fascinating. "

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  • Re: How many ex-muslims have you met personally in your life?
     Reply #16 - December 23, 2009, 04:48 PM
    Quote from: ras111 on December 23, 2009, 04:46 PM
    The Tamil Tigers also used suicide bombers several times didn't they?


    Oh yeah, them too. Ironically these hindus were the first on the suicide bombing scene, even before the Musulmans.
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
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  • Re: How many ex-muslims have you met personally in your life?
     Reply #17 - December 23, 2009, 04:51 PM
    Quote from: Kafirist on December 23, 2009, 04:44 PM
    Arabs and Pakistanis

    and converts..
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  • Re: How many ex-muslims have you met personally in your life?
     Reply #18 - December 23, 2009, 04:52 PM
    Oh yeah, converts. Fucking Jamaicans.
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
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  • Re: How many ex-muslims have you met personally in your life?
     Reply #19 - December 23, 2009, 05:37 PM
    Weren't the Bali suicide-bombers Indonesian?

    Either way, the root of their ideology was not Indonesian Islam, which was always quite laid back, it was rooted in the Islam of elsewhere (no prizes for guessing exactly where)

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  • Re: How many ex-muslims have you met personally in your life?
     Reply #20 - December 23, 2009, 05:43 PM
    Yeah, of course there's the Bali incident. But comparitively speaking, its so rare to see people from those parts do this shit. And you're right any person or place infected deeply with fundamentalist Islam naturally progress into violent and terrorist acts. The handful of fucktards that did the suicide bombing in Bangladesh were also salafists, not part of the local culture.
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: How many ex-muslims have you met personally in your life?
     Reply #21 - December 23, 2009, 06:59 PM
    I reckon I've met up to 10, although it could be more if you take into account in laws who don't practice, believe the quran, etc.  I knew people who apostatized before, and then quite a few people from my friends, acquaintances, etc. have quit in the last three years, esp in the last 18 mos.  I was so  happy when three of my best friends quit Islam around the same time I did - all independently of each other.
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  • Re: How many ex-muslims have you met personally in your life?
     Reply #22 - December 23, 2009, 07:06 PM
    @Manat,

    Were these friends similar to you in religious views? Did they suffer some sort of "burnout"?
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: How many ex-muslims have you met personally in your life?
     Reply #23 - December 23, 2009, 07:19 PM
    0 in my life

    and I think its secular laws in Bangladesh that's what keeping Bangladesh a lot more liberal than other Muslim Countries
  • Re: How many ex-muslims have you met personally in your life?
     Reply #24 - December 23, 2009, 08:06 PM
    Quote from: _truth_ on December 23, 2009, 07:19 PM
    0 in my life

    and I think its secular laws in Bangladesh that's what keeping Bangladesh a lot more liberal than other Muslim Countries

    Perhaps Bangladesh is just behind the times and soon enough, as sure as night follows day, it too will radicalise like Turkey, Pakistan and other Islamic nations before it.
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  • Re: How many ex-muslims have you met personally in your life?
     Reply #25 - December 23, 2009, 08:11 PM
    Quote from: IsLame on December 23, 2009, 08:06 PM
    Perhaps Bangladesh is just behind the times and soon enough, as sure as night follows day, it too will radicalise like Turkey, Pakistan and other Islamic nations before it.


    You think it will just be radicalisation?  Don't you see the formation of more secular movements as well to counter them?
    "Modern man's great illusion has been to convince himself that of all that has gone before he represents the zenith of human accomplishment, but can't summon the mental powers to read anything more demanding than emoticons. Fascinating. "

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  • Re: How many ex-muslims have you met personally in your life?
     Reply #26 - December 23, 2009, 08:23 PM
    Yes but that is not the normal seqence of events, it happens afterwards.  It goes like this:

    indifference - islamisation - radicalisation - secularisation
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  • Re: How many ex-muslims have you met personally in your life?
     Reply #27 - December 23, 2009, 08:29 PM
    Quote from: IsLame on December 23, 2009, 08:06 PM
    Perhaps Bangladesh is just behind the times and soon enough, as sure as night follows day, it too will radicalise like Turkey, Pakistan and other Islamic nations before it.


    Nah. It's simply not in the nature of Bengalis. Some Jamaati mullahs regularly spout about enacting shariah and the people laugh them off. Police forces and army people aren't shy to beat the fuck out of the Islamists either. Last election I think the Islamist parties won a total of 3 seats or something.. out of like 300.
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: How many ex-muslims have you met personally in your life?
     Reply #28 - December 23, 2009, 08:36 PM
    Would you have also said that if you lived in Turkey 10 years ago?
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  • Re: How many ex-muslims have you met personally in your life?
     Reply #29 - December 23, 2009, 09:21 PM
    Excluding the people I've met on ex-Muslim forums like FFI and COEM, I only know 2 other ex-Muslims personally.  My friends have told me about a few ex-Muslims that they know of.

    There are several people I know who are very non-practising and I'm sure that if I give them the push they will leave Islam.
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