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  • Ahmadinejad regime collapse?
     OP - December 29, 2009, 12:26 PM
    Dont know about you guys but Im getting the feeling this is the beginning of the end for Ahamdinejad's regime. 

    Apparently even the Qods division of the revolutionary guards has distanced itself from the state.

    What says the COEM's collective wisdom?
    "By the One in Whose Hand my soul is, were you not to commit sins, Allah would replace you with a people who would commit sins and then seek forgiveness from Allah; and Allah would forgive them." [Saheeh Muslim]

    "Wherever you are, death will find you, Even in the looming tower."
    - Quran 4:78
  • Re: Ahmadinejad regime collapse?
     Reply #1 - December 29, 2009, 12:33 PM
    i think so, but its difficult to guage with the biased media available.  If any iranians around, lets have your opinion..
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  • Re: Ahmadinejad regime collapse?
     Reply #2 - December 29, 2009, 12:35 PM
    Thats a major difficulty - I rely on my Iranian friends for most of my information (cant read Farsi) and for the first time there seems to be a consensus among all of them that change is coming.

    I think the protests are secondary to the withdrawal of support from some members of the clergy and revolutionary guards.
    "By the One in Whose Hand my soul is, were you not to commit sins, Allah would replace you with a people who would commit sins and then seek forgiveness from Allah; and Allah would forgive them." [Saheeh Muslim]

    "Wherever you are, death will find you, Even in the looming tower."
    - Quran 4:78
  • Re: Ahmadinejad regime collapse?
     Reply #3 - December 29, 2009, 12:41 PM
    But even so, does that mean Iran will be secular? Will it honestly be a democracy? What if another clergy takes power? If the people overthrow this regime?
  • Re: Ahmadinejad regime collapse?
     Reply #4 - December 29, 2009, 12:43 PM
    Quote from: BlackDog on December 29, 2009, 12:41 PM
    But even so, does that mean Iran will be secular? Will it honestly be a democracy? What if another clergy takes power? If the people overthrow this regime?


    Exactly, i think so too - change sounds like its on the horizon, but what for?  are we just gonna end up with a variant of the same thing?
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  • Re: Ahmadinejad regime collapse?
     Reply #5 - December 29, 2009, 12:45 PM
    Quote from: BlackDog on December 29, 2009, 12:41 PM
    But even so, does that mean Iran will be secular? Will it honestly be a democracy? What if another clergy takes power? If the people overthrow this regime?


    It wont be Norway but it'll develop its own system and thats fine.
    "By the One in Whose Hand my soul is, were you not to commit sins, Allah would replace you with a people who would commit sins and then seek forgiveness from Allah; and Allah would forgive them." [Saheeh Muslim]

    "Wherever you are, death will find you, Even in the looming tower."
    - Quran 4:78
  • Re: Ahmadinejad regime collapse?
     Reply #6 - December 29, 2009, 01:09 PM
    The Iranian people just don't want the oppressiveness of the current regime - anything more liberal, less repressive, will be better for them, then they can evolve from there - any such society will also want to have better relations with other nations - just hope for the best, the Iranian people are brave.
    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


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  • Re: Ahmadinejad regime collapse?
     Reply #7 - December 29, 2009, 01:11 PM
    Hopefully they will learn from their mistake and they will not simply oust this regime and not think to much about what they are going to replace it with.  They made that mistake when they ousted the Shah and look where that got them...
    "Modern man's great illusion has been to convince himself that of all that has gone before he represents the zenith of human accomplishment, but can't summon the mental powers to read anything more demanding than emoticons. Fascinating. "

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  • Re: Ahmadinejad regime collapse?
     Reply #8 - December 29, 2009, 01:15 PM
    Quote from: ras111 on December 29, 2009, 01:11 PM
    Hopefully they will learn from their mistake and they will not simply oust this regime and not think to much about what they are going to replace it with.  They made that mistake when they ousted the Shah and look where that got them...



    It was less the Persian people making that mistake than the mullahs and Khomeini killing, torturing and imprisoning anyone who stood in their way once the popular uprising against the Shah ran its course -- all the socialists, the trade uniuonists, the students, the leftists, all of civil society.

    The mullahs didn't win any revolution. They just made the most corpses.
    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Ahmadinejad regime collapse?
     Reply #9 - December 29, 2009, 01:17 PM

    I read this wonderful turn of phrase.....any regime that eats its own people will be eaten itself by the children and grandchildren of those it ate to gain power.

    The mullahs are cannibals - they fed on the flesh of the Iranian people to gain power. No tyrant lasts forever.

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Ahmadinejad regime collapse?
     Reply #10 - December 29, 2009, 01:28 PM
    Quote from: billy on December 29, 2009, 01:15 PM

    It was less the Persian people making that mistake than the mullahs and Khomeini killing, torturing and imprisoning anyone who stood in their way once the popular uprising against the Shah ran its course -- all the socialists, the trade uniuonists, the students, the leftists, all of civil society.

    The mullahs didn't win any revolution. They just made the most corpses.



    The Ayatollah had wide support actually.  The others did not expect a theocracy.
    "Modern man's great illusion has been to convince himself that of all that has gone before he represents the zenith of human accomplishment, but can't summon the mental powers to read anything more demanding than emoticons. Fascinating. "

    One very horny Turk I met on the net.
  • Re: Ahmadinejad regime collapse?
     Reply #11 - December 29, 2009, 03:19 PM
    And yet - Khomeini could only get the power he got through a reign of terror.
    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Ahmadinejad regime collapse?
     Reply #12 - December 29, 2009, 03:44 PM
    Quote from: billy on December 29, 2009, 03:19 PM
    And yet - Khomeini could only get the power he got through a reign of terror.



    'And yet - Khomeini could only maintain the power he got through a reign of terror.'

    Fixed it for you
    "Modern man's great illusion has been to convince himself that of all that has gone before he represents the zenith of human accomplishment, but can't summon the mental powers to read anything more demanding than emoticons. Fascinating. "

    One very horny Turk I met on the net.
  • Re: Ahmadinejad regime collapse?
     Reply #13 - December 29, 2009, 03:50 PM
    Khomeini's reign of terror began when he neutered all those who had a stake in Iranian society and had participated in the anti-shah uprising from secular backgrounds. The reign of terror gained him his absolute power, consolidated his power, and continued his power.

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Ahmadinejad regime collapse?
     Reply #14 - December 29, 2009, 04:19 PM
    Quote from: billy on December 29, 2009, 03:50 PM
    Khomeini's reign of terror began when he neutered all those who had a stake in Iranian society and had participated in the anti-shah uprising from secular backgrounds. The reign of terror gained him his absolute power, consolidated his power, and continued his power.



    Precisely, you are talking about how he maintained the power he achieved and how he killed competition.
    "Modern man's great illusion has been to convince himself that of all that has gone before he represents the zenith of human accomplishment, but can't summon the mental powers to read anything more demanding than emoticons. Fascinating. "

    One very horny Turk I met on the net.
  • Re: Ahmadinejad regime collapse?
     Reply #15 - December 29, 2009, 06:41 PM
    As far as i know Iran has strict apostasy laws  lipsrsealed

    that means visiting this website is a crime  Cry
  • Re: Ahmadinejad regime collapse?
     Reply #16 - December 29, 2009, 09:16 PM
    Quote from: ras111 on December 29, 2009, 04:19 PM
    Precisely, you are talking about how he maintained the power he achieved and how he killed competition.


    I'm talking about how those secularists who participated in the uprising were kept out of power from the beginning as well as how he consolidate his power.

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Ahmadinejad regime collapse?
     Reply #17 - December 29, 2009, 09:28 PM
    Quote from: billy on December 29, 2009, 09:16 PM
    I'm talking about how those secularists who participated in the uprising were kept out of power from the beginning as well as how he consolidate his power.


    He initially worked with them, then when he did not need them (hence had enough power), he disposed of them
    "Modern man's great illusion has been to convince himself that of all that has gone before he represents the zenith of human accomplishment, but can't summon the mental powers to read anything more demanding than emoticons. Fascinating. "

    One very horny Turk I met on the net.
  • Re: Ahmadinejad regime collapse?
     Reply #18 - December 29, 2009, 10:23 PM
    I wish the MF goes down him and all the Islamic state
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