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 Topic: The end of Christianity as a living culture in the middle-east

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  • The end of Christianity as a living culture in the middle-east
     OP - December 29, 2009, 04:18 PM


    One of my favourite blogs is The Spitoon. It is a blog written by British Muslims who are opposed to Islamism and political Islam in all its forms, and confront the right-wing Islamic identity politicians in the UK about their ideology and separatism.

    But I found this post really interesting, and sad. About the decline of Christianity in the middle-east.

    ++++++

    For With G-d Nothing Shall Be Impossible

    About 15 million Christians continue to live in the Middle East, the biggest non-Muslim minority left in the Muslim-majority countries of the region. Yet every year, more and more leave their homelands for overseas; pressurised into flight by systematic economic and social discrimination on the basis of their faith.

    Of course, the Christians of the Middle East have not been alone in this. Starting with the sometimes sizeable Jewish minorities of the Arab world, religious minorities have been more or less forced out of the region since the end of World War II. Together with the Jews,  Zoroastrians, Mandeans, Bahai, Yazidis, and other, smaller groups have all left the region that gave birth to all the monotheistic faiths. Those that remain have often been reduced to what one Christian commentator has called an underground,  "catacomb" faith, recalling the persecuted faith of the Early Church.

    Nina Shea, in a recent article, comments:

    Within our lifetime, the Middle East could be wholly Islamicized for the first time in history. Without the experience of living alongside Christians and other non-Muslims at home, what would prepare it to peacefully coexist with the West? This religious polarization would undoubtedly have geopolitical significance.

    She echoes the views of the Lebanese Catholic scholar, Habib Malik (son of the late Charles Malik, one of the drafters of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights):

    "The existence of settled, stable, prosperous, and reasonably free and secure native Christian communities in the Middle East has served in many instances as a factor encouraging Islamic openness and moderation, creating an environment of pluralism that fosters acknowledgment of the different other. . . . In Lebanon, before the outbreak of war in 1975, Muslim communities lived with their Christian counterparts in a free atmosphere of mutual respect. The fruits of this coexistence are evident today, even after so many conflicts, among educated classes of Lebanese Sunnis and Shiites, who stand out in the broader Arab Islamic context as full-fledged examples of modernity in every way. Islamic moderation is strengthened when Muslims live with confident co-national adherents of communities that respect women, do not condone suicide bombing or religious domination, are compatible with liberal democracy, defend personal and group rights, and are comfortable with many features of secular life"


    +++++++

    Please do read the whole article here:


    http://www.spittoon.org/archives/4333


    It talks about how without a sizeable minority to moderate the view of Islam, to be a living example of the need for diversity and difference, Islam in the middle-east will turn even more intolerant, and will have less of an incentive to reform itself to accomodate other cultures or religions.

     

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


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    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: The end of Christianity as a living culture in the middle-east
     Reply #1 - December 29, 2009, 04:45 PM

    Why do they write God as G-d? Usually, only orthodox Jews do that.
  • Re: The end of Christianity as a living culture in the middle-east
     Reply #2 - December 29, 2009, 04:49 PM

    That is strange..

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  • Re: The end of Christianity as a living culture in the middle-east
     Reply #3 - December 29, 2009, 05:36 PM

    Billy - I agree. Spittoon is a fantastic blog and I would advise you all to save it in your favourites. When did you first stumble across it Billy?

    Take the Pakman challenge and convince me there is a God and Mo was not a murdering, power hungry sex maniac.
  • Re: The end of Christianity as a living culture in the middle-east
     Reply #4 - December 29, 2009, 06:16 PM

    Why do they write God as G-d? Usually, only orthodox Jews do that.


    We have a member here called "History" he always wrote G-d and not God! I never asked him why?  Huh?

    ...
  • Re: The end of Christianity as a living culture in the middle-east
     Reply #5 - December 29, 2009, 07:42 PM

    Becauce god is his name, silly.ya, its kind of stupid

    The foundation of superstition is ignorance, the
    superstructure is faith and the dome is a vain hope. Superstition
    is the child of ignorance and the mother of misery.
    -Robert G. Ingersoll (1898)

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  • Re: The end of Christianity as a living culture in the middle-east
     Reply #6 - December 29, 2009, 09:23 PM

    Billy - I agree. Spittoon is a fantastic blog and I would advise you all to save it in your favourites. When did you first stumble across it Billy?


    via Harry's Place, which also does excellent work on confronting Muslim Brotherhood / Jamaat-e-Islaami / Islamist ideology in Britain (although I don't agree with all of their politics - on this issue they are outstanding)


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: The end of Christianity as a living culture in the middle-east
     Reply #7 - December 29, 2009, 10:20 PM

    all to do with not using god's name in vain, that's why yhwh is replaced with adonai, adonai replaced with hashem, then both being replaced with adoshem... ad infinitum, to the english word God replaces to o with a dash or similar mark, so that the name of god is not desecrated, like in Islam, anything with Allah written on it should not be treated carelessly, and disposed of properly, burned or buried.

    I chose to get circumcised at 17, don't tell me I never believed.
  • Re: The end of Christianity as a living culture in the middle-east
     Reply #8 - December 29, 2009, 10:21 PM

    We have a member here called "History" he always wrote G-d and not God! I never asked him why?  Huh?

    If you read his posts, I think in one of them you will find he did (btw if you dont already know, he was Jewish)..

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  • Re: The end of Christianity as a living culture in the middle-east
     Reply #9 - December 29, 2009, 11:29 PM

    At the end of the day - the restrictions from the Pact of Umar have continued to this day - if the stupidity remained in the middle east most wouldn't cared what happened over there but unfortunately like a cancer it is spreading fast.

    "It's just a job. Grass grows, birds fly, waves pound the sand. I beat people up." - Muhammad Ali
  • Re: The end of Christianity as a living culture in the middle-east
     Reply #10 - December 30, 2009, 12:01 AM

    Jesus fucking Christ.

    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: The end of Christianity as a living culture in the middle-east
     Reply #11 - December 30, 2009, 12:03 AM

    Jesus fucking Christ.


    That would be an interesting sight to see.

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  • Re: The end of Christianity as a living culture in the middle-east
     Reply #12 - December 30, 2009, 12:14 AM

    That would be an interesting sight to see.


    Don't think his father would approve.

    "The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims. The most perfect slaves are, therefore, those which blissfully and unawaredly enslave themselves."
  • Re: The end of Christianity as a living culture in the middle-east
     Reply #13 - December 30, 2009, 12:15 AM

    http://www.burbuja.info/inmobiliaria/members/traficante-albums-imagenes-picture393-jesus-fucking-christ.jpg

    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: The end of Christianity as a living culture in the middle-east
     Reply #14 - December 30, 2009, 07:28 AM

    LOL, The internet....if you can think of it....you can google it, and find a graphic.

    The foundation of superstition is ignorance, the
    superstructure is faith and the dome is a vain hope. Superstition
    is the child of ignorance and the mother of misery.
    -Robert G. Ingersoll (1898)

     "Do time ninjas have this ability?" "Yeah. Only they stay silent and aren't douchebags."  -Ibl
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