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  • Fly in your drink??need some help with this one.
     OP - January 01, 2010, 01:04 PM
    Salam again,

    And again, I've read on the dutch forum that if a fly falls into your drink, you should sturr it before you drink, because one wing has the bacteria and the other one has the anti-dote..
    One other moron said that it was scientifically proven that the hadith is true. can some elaborate on this one?
    "Hanifs (Muslims) are stumbling, Christians all astray
    Jews wildered, Magians far on error's way.
    We mortals are composed of two great schools:
    Enlightened knaves or else religious fools....."

    Muslim freethinkers society:  http://www.facebook.com/editapps.php?ref=mb#/group.php?gid=2251053
  • Re: Fly in your drink??need some help with this one.
     Reply #1 - January 01, 2010, 01:11 PM
    Here is the link:
    http://understand-islam.net/site/index.php?option=com_wrapper&view=wrapper&Itemid=92
    "Hanifs (Muslims) are stumbling, Christians all astray
    Jews wildered, Magians far on error's way.
    We mortals are composed of two great schools:
    Enlightened knaves or else religious fools....."

    Muslim freethinkers society:  http://www.facebook.com/editapps.php?ref=mb#/group.php?gid=2251053
  • Re: Fly in your drink??need some help with this one.
     Reply #2 - January 01, 2010, 05:01 PM
    anyone?
    "Hanifs (Muslims) are stumbling, Christians all astray
    Jews wildered, Magians far on error's way.
    We mortals are composed of two great schools:
    Enlightened knaves or else religious fools....."

    Muslim freethinkers society:  http://www.facebook.com/editapps.php?ref=mb#/group.php?gid=2251053
  • Re: Fly in your drink??need some help with this one.
     Reply #3 - January 01, 2010, 09:44 PM
    Its an idiotic hadith. Some idiots even propagated that is the link for the cure to Aids. Dont listen to them
  • Re: Fly in your drink??need some help with this one.
     Reply #4 - January 01, 2010, 11:58 PM
    well yeah ofcourse, i'm not doubting that.
    it's just that most muslims include this hadith that it was scientifically proven.
    Now I'm a man of common sense and reason and I value the scientific methodes greatly.
    That's why I wanted to ask you guys whether there has been a devastating rebuttal to this.
    "Hanifs (Muslims) are stumbling, Christians all astray
    Jews wildered, Magians far on error's way.
    We mortals are composed of two great schools:
    Enlightened knaves or else religious fools....."

    Muslim freethinkers society:  http://www.facebook.com/editapps.php?ref=mb#/group.php?gid=2251053
  • Re: Fly in your drink??need some help with this one.
     Reply #5 - January 01, 2010, 11:59 PM
    How can there be a rebuttal to a claim that has never been scientifically proven? The Musulmans are making shit up as usual.
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: Fly in your drink??need some help with this one.
     Reply #6 - January 02, 2010, 12:31 AM
    The rebuttal is asking them for a peer-reviewed paper, not a random website with a claim.
    ~My story~
    ~Collection of unethical hadiths/surahs~
  • Re: Fly in your drink??need some help with this one.
     Reply #7 - January 03, 2010, 02:26 AM
    In regards to the fly miracle, check this article out:

    http://abc.gov.au/science/articles/2002/10/01/689400.htm

    More on this miracle:

    http://www.answering-christianity.com/hadiths_of_the_fly.htm


    The thing, they say the hadith is not Mutawatir yet they link to scientific articles. In any case the hadith says:

    Narrated Abu Huraira: "Allah's Apostle said, "If a fly falls in the vessel of any of you, let him dip all of it (into the vessel) and then throw it away, for in one of its wings there is a disease and in the other there is healing (antidote for it) i e. the treatment for that disease."  (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 71, Number 673)"

    And then they say the wording verbatim can be wrong because the hadith is not mutawatir. The thing you can't make a cure by his method anyways. 

    "The antibiotic material is extracted by drowning the flies in ethanol, then running the mixture through a filter to obtain the crude extract."

    And it's silly to say that one wing has the cure and the other doesn't. It has to be a full-time job to be an Islamic apologist. The funniest bit is how the kuffars are doing the research. And the musims go well look the prophet predicted this 1400 years ago, but if anybody points out discrepancies in the hadith they go well that Particular hadith is not mutawatir. Even though it's in a Sahik Bukhari.
  • Re: Fly in your drink??need some help with this one.
     Reply #8 - January 03, 2010, 02:27 AM
    Is there a peer-review article on this?
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