65 million yrs old T-rex bone tissue?

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OP - January 04, 2010, 01:18 AM

I know this is creationist propoganda but I'd like to hear the scientific explanation behind this:

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Last year at about this time, it was disclosed that scientists had made an amazing discovery of a Tyrannosaurus rex thigh bone that still retained well-preserved soft tissue (which included blood vessels and cells). For evolutionists who argue that dinosaurs died about 65 million years ago, it was a startling discovery. AiG?USA?s Dr. David Menton (who holds a Ph.D. in cell biology from Brown University) wrote at the time that it ?certainly taxes one?s imagination to believe that soft tissue and cells could remain so relatively fresh in appearance for the tens of millions of years of supposed evolutionary history.?

http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2006/0306AAAS.asp

What's the real reason why the tissue was able to survive 65 million years?
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Reply #1 - January 04, 2010, 02:20 AM

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Paleontologists in 2005 hailed research that apparently showed that soft, pliable tissues had been recovered from dissolved dinosaur bones, a major finding that would substantially widen the known range of preserved biomolecules.

But new research challenges that finding and suggests that the supposed recovered dinosaur tissue is in reality biofilm ? or slime.

"I believed that preserved soft tissues had been found, but I had to change my opinion," said Thomas Kaye, an associate researcher at the Burke Museum of Natural History and Culture at the University of Washington. "You have to go where the science leads, and the science leads me to believe that this is bacterial biofilm."

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/07/080729234140.htm

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Reply #2 - January 04, 2010, 03:10 AM

Quote from: liberated on January 04, 2010, 01:18 AM
I know this is creationist propoganda but I'd like to hear the scientific explanation behind this:
http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2006/0306AAAS.asp

What's the real reason why the tissue was able to survive 65 million years?

In short, dont go looking on answeringenesis.org if you want serious scientific answer, nor should you fully accept what we tell you. Go research independent scientific findings, and come to your own conclusion.

Why are you looking at Christian sites anyway? I'll come out with my longheld thoughts & suspicions, and ask you directly.

Are you Ali Marwa? I dont mind if you are or are not, and completely understand why you would want to morph with a different username if you have undergone a recent shift in your ideological thinking. In fact I will have more respect for you if you are, and are honest about it.

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Reply #3 - January 04, 2010, 04:24 AM

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Why are you looking at Christian sites anyway?

I was looking at some sites about theological evolution and they had a link to this, I just took a look to see what it was about.

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Are you Ali Marwa? I dont mind if you are or are not, and completely understand why you would want to morph with a different username if you have undergone a recent shift in your ideological thinking. In fact I will have more respect for you if you are, and are honest about it.

Lol, my first name is Ali but I don't have that last name, who is Ali marwa? I'm really not that guy, honestly. This is the first time I've made an account here. I think you pmed me on youtube to make an account here and that's when I did it. But I want to know who that guy is and what made you think I'm him
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Reply #4 - January 04, 2010, 04:28 AM

Quote from: NineBerry on January 04, 2010, 02:20 AM
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/07/080729234140.htm

So this wasn't dinosaur tissue and was biofilm? Is the biofilm said to have been 65 million years old too? If so I'd like to hear how it was preserved so well.
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Reply #5 - January 04, 2010, 04:31 AM

Biofilm is just bacteria

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Reply #6 - January 04, 2010, 04:35 AM

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Biofilm is just bacteria

Fossilized bacteria or alive? If alive did it survive 65 million years?
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Reply #7 - January 04, 2010, 04:38 AM

They are "alive". It's a bit difficult to speak of the age of bacteria since bacteria don't have children but rather just multiply. The biofilm must have been there for all the time given that it had the form of the blood vessels of the dinosaur. But iot was not necessarily the same cells all the time. The bacteria would have lived from nutrition in water that seeped through the sediment with the fossil.

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Reply #8 - January 04, 2010, 04:42 AM

I see. Thanks bro, that helped a lot!
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