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 Topic: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)

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  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #120 - January 08, 2010, 06:24 PM

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    Some are preparing for a new age (to take us out of this Piscean age)....


    The Age of Pisces (The Piscean Age)
    Symbol of Pisces:
    The zodiacal signs:
    the vernal equinox (northern hemisphere) is occurring in Pisces;
    The Age of Pisces is technically the current age and some astrologers believe it will remain so for approximately another 600 years. At that time, the vernal equinox point will no longer be facing Pisces, but moved into the constellation of Aquarius, thus beginning the Age of Aquarius. However, there are many astrologers who believe that the Age of Aquarius has already arrived or will arrive soon.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_age#The_Age_of_Pisces_.28The_Piscean_Age.29

    Don't Christians believe that there is nothing to Astrology? So even if this New Age church is preparing for a new astrological age, then aren't they just wasting their time? I don't understand why Christians would  build them up as some kind of threat. The only threat they seem to pose to conservative Christians is that they offer an alternative form of worship to those who have been disillusioned by their churches. It is understandable in this regard that the conservatives would label them as Satanic.

    And would it be so bad if the New Agers did usher in the Age of Aquarious?
    Harmony and understanding
    Sympathy and trust abounding
    No more falsehoods or derisions
    Golden living dreams of visions
    Mystic crystal revalation
    And the mind's true liberation
    Aquarius!
    Aquarius!

    Sounds groovy to  me  party!

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    One of my favorite sites for information on things like this is "Alan Watt Sentient Sentinal


    That's really surprising. I thought you were a Christian. Why would you be getting your info from a proven plagiarist?
    http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/16421/Alan_Watt__Lies__Threats_and_Plagiarism/


    Do you know that Alan Watt refutes the existence of Christ? Nothing wrong with that. I just thought you should be aware.

    http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/10163/Alan_Watt_Refuted_by_Jeff_Cross/

    Seems even the other conspiracy fans have lost respect for him.

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    Al Gore stands to make Billions? 'Earth in the Balance' ? More like "Al Gore's fortune in the balance". And it's also about Agenda 21...

    How is Al Gore going to make Billions? By the time these eco-friendly companies begin to turn over decent profits, Al Gore will be retired or dead. Agenda 21 sounds reasonable to me. If we are going to tackle world pollution and poverty then the world countries will have to co-operate. Call it a World Order if you like but it is nothing to get paranoid about.

    Quote
    The amount they want to cull population would take something drastic.

    If there is a conspiracy to cull global population then they are doing a horrible job at it, aren?t they?
    Quote
    In the H1N1 vaccines is Squalene.

    Does the 2009 H1N1 flu shot have an adjuvant or squalene in it?
    Adjuvants are agents that are sometimes added to a vaccine to make it more effective. There are no adjuvants (such as squalene) in either the 2009 H1N1 or seasonal flu shot used in the United States
    http://www.cdc.gov/H1N1flu/vaccination/pregnant_qa.htm#h

    I got my vaccine yesterday. You should get yours too.

    My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable and I'm just ferocious. I want your heart. I want to eat your children. Praise be to Allah." -- Mike Tyson
  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #121 - January 08, 2010, 06:28 PM

    I'm just posting this here, for now.
  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #122 - January 08, 2010, 06:51 PM



    Don't Christians believe that there is nothing to Astrology? So even if this New Age church is preparing for a new astrological age, then aren?t they just wasting their time? I don?t understand why Christians would  build them up as some kind of threat. The only threat they seem to pose to conservative Christians is that they offer an alternative form of worship to those who have been disillusioned by their churches. It is understandable in this regard that the conservatives would label them as Satanic.


    It's true that Christians don't believe in Astrology....and threat is not in the stars, but the threat is these people want to bring in a world dictatorship, and it's not just a an ideology or a wish, it is a religion.

    Quote
    And would it be so bad if the New Agers did
    Harmony and understanding
    Sympathy and trust abounding
    No more falsehoods or derisions
    Golden living dreams of visions
    Mystic crystal revalation
    And the mind's true liberation
    Aquarius!
    Aquarius!

    Sounds groovy to  me  party!


    ...except it is a lie.

    Quote
    That's really surprising. I thought you were a Christian. Why would you be getting your info from a proven plagiarist?
    http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/16421/Alan_Watt__Lies__Threats_and_Plagiarism/


    I did not know this.

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    Do you know that Alan Watt refutes the existence of Christ? Nothing wrong with that. I just thought you should be aware.


    Alan Watt is not a Christian. I already know this.


    Quote

    How is Al Gore going to make Billions? By the time these eco-friendly companies begin to turn over decent profits, Al Gore will be retired or dead.


    I believe he already has made alot money on this.

    Quote
    Agenda 21 sounds reasonable to me. If we are going to tackle world pollution and pocerty then the world countries will have to co-operate. Call it a World Order if you like but it is nothing to get paranoid about.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJp0P6eggXU&feature=related


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    If there is a conspiracy to cull global population then they are doing a horrible job at it, aren?t they?Does the 2009 H1N1 flu shot have an adjuvant or squalene in it?
    Adjuvants are agents that are sometimes added to a vaccine to make it more effective. There are no adjuvants (such as squalene) in either the 2009 H1N1 or seasonal flu shot used in the United States
    http://www.cdc.gov/H1N1flu/vaccination/pregnant_qa.htm#h


    This means someone is lying.

  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #123 - January 08, 2010, 07:25 PM

    Hmmmm....and this is a 'Democracy Now' segment:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ttq0IdULfjg&feature=related


    Yes apparently the Bill Gates Foundation which has given billions to fight disease in africa has millions invested in oil companies that also do business in africa and create pollution. The speaker suggests that the effects of the pollution offset the gains made by the organizations charitable contributions. He suggests that the foundation pay closer attention to their investments. Perhaps the foundation should invest in more eco-friendly companies like Al gore does? It is a huge leap to jump from this to accusing Bill Gates of conspiring to depopulate the globe.

    Exodus 20:16
    You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

    My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable and I'm just ferocious. I want your heart. I want to eat your children. Praise be to Allah." -- Mike Tyson
  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #124 - January 08, 2010, 07:29 PM

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    lan Watt is not a Christian. I already know this.


    He is not just a non-Christian.
    He earns his living speaking and writing about how Christ and all the Biblical characters are astrological illusions.
    That is why I was surprised to find you respecting his writings so much.

    My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable and I'm just ferocious. I want your heart. I want to eat your children. Praise be to Allah." -- Mike Tyson
  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #125 - January 08, 2010, 08:19 PM

    Yes apparently the Bill Gates Foundation which has given billions to fight disease in africa has millions invested in oil companies that also do business in africa and create pollution. The speaker suggests that the effects of the pollution offset the gains made by the organizations charitable contributions. He suggests that the foundation pay closer attention to their investments. Perhaps the foundation should invest in more eco-friendly companies like Al gore does? It is a huge leap to jump from this to accusing Bill Gates of conspiring to depopulate the globe.

    Exodus 20:16
    You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.



    Publicly, what he has said about population-control is a whole lot milder than what his friends  have said. Bill Gates does not appear to be depopulationist, as do his peers. His foundation is a foundation, all the same....and there is something about these foundations that does not sit right with me.

    I do not want to say anything about Bill Gates that isn't true, but I do want to say that I feel something is not right.

    What we can know, as far as public information is it invests in some very destructive corporations.
  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #126 - January 08, 2010, 08:25 PM

    He is not just a non-Christian.
    He earns his living speaking and writing about how Christ and all the Biblical characters are astrological illusions.
    That is why I was surprised to find you respecting his writings so much.


    I do not listen when he starts to go on like that. He's entitled to his opinion, but he is wrong.
  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #127 - January 10, 2010, 02:28 AM

    I love my Christian source but cannot share him with you. He's kind and he's intelligent. The only thing is he needs to work on his grammar. Not that mine is perfect, but he sounds like he missed a few days of grammar school. It doesn't mean anything...other than I know some people will not take him seriously as a source....and some of his sources sound like they missed days of grammar school than he did.

    Alan Watt is a jerk. I know this....but he is a jerk that has done his research.
  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #128 - January 10, 2010, 04:48 AM

    Can a muslim become a freemason?

    The obvious answer.

    I know Al-Afghani was one though.

    "...every imperfection in man is a bond with heaven..." - Karl Marx
  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #129 - January 10, 2010, 05:40 AM


    Freemasons accept Muslims, but here is a Muslim scholar's view of Freemasonry:

     "As far as I know, Freemasonry is a secret organization whose beliefs and practices are totally kept confidential except from those who are initiated into it. They have levels of secrets which are not divulged to those who are at lower levels. A Muslim should never fall prey or give allegiance to something which cannot be scrutinized by the firm criteria of the Qur?an and the Sunnah. Whoever joins Freemasonry is like a person who writes a blank check; by doing so he agrees to give allegiance blindly to an authority to comply with their wishes no matter what they are.

    No Muslim can surrender his will unconditionally to anyone but Allah. If anyone has done so, he is guilty of the most blatant violation namely shirk (associating partners with Allah). Allah says: ?Do they have partners beside Allah who shall prescribe for them rituals that Allah has not sanctioned.? (Ash-Shura: 21)"

    ----

    I read a book by a Sufi, called 'The Master of Jinn'....and it was hard for me to tell where the Freemasonry ended and the Sufism began....

    So far, I see that some Muslims say it is wrong, but Sufi Muslims do not.

  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #130 - January 17, 2010, 12:12 AM

    Hip Hop goes masonic.

    http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=494C596D1807C734
  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #131 - January 17, 2010, 03:21 AM

    LOL the Roc sign is secretly a masonic symbol. People crack me up.

    *Throws up the Roc sign*

    Hola hovito. Party for the people:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkK7zfsO_1E
  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #132 - January 17, 2010, 03:46 AM

    Point blank. Jay-Z is a freemason, straight up.
  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #133 - January 17, 2010, 04:00 AM

     Cheesy
  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #134 - January 17, 2010, 04:10 AM

    I want to become a Freemason, what's my first step?

    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #135 - January 17, 2010, 04:25 AM

    You need to know somebody, they have to recommend you. Or maybe it's two people? It's quite simple. Friend of friends are Freemasons. They have muslims and christian freemasons I was told.
  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #136 - January 17, 2010, 04:26 AM

    Have you not seen the bumper stickers? They say: "2B1Ask1".
  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #137 - January 17, 2010, 04:35 AM

    In that case you can leave a message on Jay Z website or you tube channel (if he has one) because he is one...

    "Modern man's great illusion has been to convince himself that of all that has gone before he represents the zenith of human accomplishment, but can't summon the mental powers to read anything more demanding than emoticons. Fascinating. "

    One very horny Turk I met on the net.
  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #138 - January 17, 2010, 04:38 AM

    I will do all manners of insane and disgusting rituals to become a member. Lucifer is my guide and lord.

    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #139 - January 17, 2010, 04:40 AM

    I know you that you would.
  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #140 - January 17, 2010, 04:43 AM

    I will do all manners of insane and disgusting rituals to become a member. Lucifer is my guide and lord.

    I loved the 'Lucifer' name, it's so cool  cool2
    I'd name my kid (If I ever had one) 'Lucifer' if it wasn't for the social stigma.

    "In every time and culture there are pressures to conform to the prevailing prejudices. But there are also, in every place and epoch, those who value the truth; who record the evidence faithfully. Future generations are in their debt." -Carl Sagan

  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #141 - January 17, 2010, 04:45 AM

    I will name my first son Iblis. Middle name Shaytan.

    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #142 - January 17, 2010, 05:02 AM

    Hmmmm....

    Some muslims think Michael Jackson was framed by the Illuminati....and they made him look like a child-molester. If that's true, they did a good job. He looked like a child-molester.

    But they're probably saying this because he converted to Islam.
  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #143 - January 17, 2010, 05:22 AM

    MJ converted to Islam the same way I would convert to Mormonism for a piece of ass.

    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #144 - January 17, 2010, 12:01 PM

    I loved the 'Lucifer' name, it's so cool  cool2
    I'd name my kid (If I ever had one) 'Lucifer' if it wasn't for the social stigma.


    Lucifer sounds rather camp...

    "Modern man's great illusion has been to convince himself that of all that has gone before he represents the zenith of human accomplishment, but can't summon the mental powers to read anything more demanding than emoticons. Fascinating. "

    One very horny Turk I met on the net.
  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #145 - January 17, 2010, 12:03 PM

    Hmmmm....

    Some muslims think Michael Jackson was framed by the Illuminati....and they made him look like a child-molester. If that's true, they did a good job. He looked like a child-molester.

    But they're probably saying this because he converted to Islam.


    I had no idea child molesters looked like Tutankhamen, I thought they usually had beards and glasses.

    "Modern man's great illusion has been to convince himself that of all that has gone before he represents the zenith of human accomplishment, but can't summon the mental powers to read anything more demanding than emoticons. Fascinating. "

    One very horny Turk I met on the net.
  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #146 - January 17, 2010, 09:00 PM

    Lucifer sounds rather camp...


    "Camp". That's a good word for it.

  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #147 - January 17, 2010, 09:04 PM

  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #148 - January 17, 2010, 09:06 PM

    I had no idea child molesters looked like Tutankhamen, I thought they usually had beards and glasses.


    Is Tutankhamen King Tut? Michael Jackson didn't look like King Tut, did he? I thought King Tut had a long beard, the kind Egyptians used to have....but he did also look effeminate, didn't he? Maybe King Tut did not have a beard....or he did, sometimes.

    Beards and glasses? Where do you get that?

  • Re: Freemasonry is icky (and ir's a religion)
     Reply #149 - January 17, 2010, 10:09 PM

    Is Tutankhamen King Tut? Michael Jackson didn't look like King Tut, did he? I thought King Tut had a long beard, the kind Egyptians used to have....but he did also look effeminate, didn't he? Maybe King Tut did not have a beard....or he did, sometimes.

    Beards and glasses? Where do you get that?


    No King Tut's a rather famous (or infamous) poster of this forum actually...  although Tutankhamen may also be referred to by the same name.   Don't know whether MJ looked like him when he was alive, but MJ in the late stages of his career had a remarkable resemblance to King Tutankhamen's mummified remains.

    "Modern man's great illusion has been to convince himself that of all that has gone before he represents the zenith of human accomplishment, but can't summon the mental powers to read anything more demanding than emoticons. Fascinating. "

    One very horny Turk I met on the net.
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