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Re: Refute this video
Reply #30 - January 12, 2010, 02:21 AM

Quote from: PeruvianSkies on January 08, 2010, 08:37 PM
But events created the universe

If time is a "property" of the universe, then no event could have created the universe.
Because events imply time. And that implies a universe

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Reply #31 - January 12, 2010, 02:23 AM

Quote from: UnsichtbarerGeist on January 11, 2010, 10:43 PM
Well, first the video is very suggestive - showing the "nice theist" and the "bad, insulting atheist". Not really a fair presentation.

Unfortunately, too many "atheist videos" are just the same, reversed.
They use sarcasm when depicting theists :S

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Reply #32 - January 14, 2010, 10:17 PM

Quote from: Tlaloc on January 12, 2010, 02:21 AM
If time is a "property" of the universe, then no event could have created the universe.
Because events imply time. And that implies a universe

Good point

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Reply #33 - February 18, 2010, 01:25 PM

Lets assume the universe required a cause of its existence. Since, prior to this cause there was no existence, then god did not exist until the existence of the universe, since nothing by definition can exist outside of existence, thus god is not infinite and all-powerful since he did not exist until the creation of the universe.

Anyway, you can just use occam's razor.

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