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 Topic: Yasmin Alibhai-Brown: Licentiousness breeds extremism

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  • Yasmin Alibhai-Brown: Licentiousness breeds extremism
     OP - January 11, 2010, 01:55 PM

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    The collapse of all restraint in society is pushing some Muslims to the edge of reason

    Last week I once again condemned the burkha and will do so till the end of my days. By that time, with the unstoppable rise and rise of Wahhabi Islam, they will probably have incarcerated me in black polyester and turned off my voice.

    I unconditionally hate fanatical proselytisers ? male and female ? what they do to my faith and the faithful. The way they ban pleasures and progress, fill young minds with strictures to paralyse the will and suppress god-given desires in lands of freedom and autonomy. Their inner lives are stormy, psychological dramas which turn dangerously unstable. Some of the resulting turmoil and sexual unrest may be swelling the seething brain of the next terrorist manqu?.

    On blogs now thought to be written by Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, the Nigerian accused of trying to blow up a plane over Detroit, you are given the impression from news reports that he was a lonely boy, unhappy with his peers who drank and partied. At university he apparently cut himself off, tried to hold on to Islamic Puritanism in a country of no shame, no restraint. Millions of Britons of all backgrounds are alarmed by the dissipation and debauchery that now defines Britain.

    For Umar Farouk and many other Muslim men like him, living in such a landscape is literally intolerable. He confesses that he does try to lower his gaze in front of females, wonders if he should get married because he is getting too aroused. You could make a movie, a Taxi Driver for our times, about just such an anti-hero, the hormonal male who is expected to live a life of total abstinence in the middle of licentiousness.

    The Pakistani journalist Maruf Khwaja describes this inner chaos in an Open Democracy blog. In some homes they cannot watch television, listen to music, dance or indulge in anything pleasurable: "[Muslims] want to do what their secular friends do, have nights out, go clubbing, have boyfriends and girlfriends. Many are depressed by social isolation and attempt to escape by leaving parents and Islamic legacies behind."

    Others, like Asif, revert. He says he had a contact list full of willing white women whom he chatted up to "get into their knickers" and now that he is a good Muslim, he talks to covered-up ladies and can "really communicate with them". The saintly Muslim female has desexualised herself, protects herself in the polluted land she lives in full of mad, bad and dangerous sinners.

    Women who are not coerced but choose to cover themselves are expressing that revulsion and fear of contamination. Their solutions are as bad as the problems they are trying to escape, sometimes worse. Sexual abuse, rape and forced homosexuality remain the dirty secrets of British Muslim communities, kept under wraps as it were, while they flap around proclamations of purity.

    I cannot stand these false virtues and self-reverential pieties nor am I pleading on behalf of screwed-up men who would murder us naming Allah. I am saying that the collapse of all restraint in our societies is breeding sicknesses and madness, and may be pushing some Muslims to the edge of reason.

    Non-Muslims are as concerned about social nihilism, and increasingly so. A list was sent home to the parents of girls at a middle-class school in London last week sternly reminding non-uniformed sixth-formers that there were still rules of decorum to follow. A list followed of garments henceforth disallowed: no tops that show the midriff or cleavage, no tight mini-skirts, no underwear showing, no clothes with holes in them, etc, etc.

    Do parents and their teenagers think such wanton wear is OK for school? In an alarmingly short time, the nation has gone from Fifties uprightness to public striptease, even in schools. We mothers of teenagers who can't bear this milieu are trying to do the impossible ? to somehow let our born-free children find themselves and define their futures while holding them back protectively from the debauchery of modern British life.

    In Natasha Walter's new book, Living Doll: the Return of Sexism, she describes the widespread self-degradation of young women and girls who wear "fuck-me" clothes, binge-drink and sleep around, all in the name of emancipation. Their heroines are Jordan and glamour models in lads' mags and what they really, really want is to be just like these big-breasted big-timers.

    Teenagers told her they had had dozens of sexual partners already and some said they would happily go in for lap-dancing or porn shots "for enjoyment". The word that comes up all the time is "choice", but one has to ask what choice is there, really, when a pushy popular culture tells females as young as eight that they are creatures of the flesh which they must tame and give over to the public gaze and touch. To me, that choice is engineered just as it is for veiled women. Both are victims of societal pressures that mould and compel certain decisions. They are perhaps twins born of the same womb.

    Dr Marcus Braybrooke, a respected Anglican clergyman and theologian, has expressed his anxieties: "[All of us] face the same challenges in an increasingly alien society. Original sin and sexual inhibition has been replaced by what most Christians and Muslims would regard as undue permissiveness." Atheists too and humanists I bet, and all other sorts.

    The last decade was a period of economic greed and libertine excess encouraged and reflected by magazines, television, music, high-paid entertainers and childlike resistance to self-control. Modesty was for losers. Some of those losers turned modesty into the ultimate cause, turned themselves into morality warriors and claimed God was on their side.

    With things falling apart and ethical compasses broken, you can see why so many are turning to self-discipline and certainties in an age of chaos. Islamic Stalinism is set to grow stronger. A society in a state of perpetual abandon cannot survive that onslaught. We need to sober up and see what we have become. The future is grim; it needs us to be serious.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/yasmin-alibhai-brown/yasmin-alibhaibrown-licentiousness-breeds-extremism-1863919.html



    Sweet Mary this woman knows how to write.
  • Re: Yasmin Alibhai-Brown: Licentiousness breeds extremism
     Reply #1 - January 11, 2010, 02:06 PM


    I found it hysterical. She is something of a hysteric. That's not to say I don't agree with her on many issues - she has always been good on confronting the double speak of organised Islamists in Britain, the likes of the MCB and so on. But I see little difference between this and the worst kind of right-wing pessimism about the end of British civilisation. With an added spice - providing an exclupation for the behaviour of 'Islamic Stalinists' - that British society pushes and forces them into hatred and violence. Its a circular argument, but its specious and insidious.



    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


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    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Yasmin Alibhai-Brown: Licentiousness breeds extremism
     Reply #2 - January 11, 2010, 02:20 PM

     I suppose Islams biggest failing is that it dosen't have a monastic community.Its almost impossible to live like a monk or a nun in a 21st century secular Western democracy.
  • Re: Yasmin Alibhai-Brown: Licentiousness breeds extremism
     Reply #3 - January 11, 2010, 02:26 PM

    You are pretty much a monk though, if you follow Islam to the letter and live in a 21st century secular Western democracy. Trust me, I know  mysmilie_977
  • Re: Yasmin Alibhai-Brown: Licentiousness breeds extremism
     Reply #4 - January 11, 2010, 02:30 PM

    I found it hysterical. She is something of a hysteric. That's not to say I don't agree with her on many issues - she has always been good on confronting the double speak of organised Islamists in Britain, the likes of the MCB and so on. But I see little difference between this and the worst kind of right-wing pessimism about the end of British civilisation. With an added spice - providing an exclupation for the behaviour of 'Islamic Stalinists' - that British society pushes and forces them into hatred and violence. Its a circular argument, but its specious and insidious.



    You're too smart for me Billy  Cheesy I was just thinking how cool it would be to remake Taxi Driver (or be inspired by it rather). The problem is I have a hard time sympathising with that son of a bitch, how the hell do you make him a human being worthy of our empathy? Travis wanted to change the world, but was not able to. But in the end he made a change. A positive one for the girl. At a great cost. Actually hold up, has she even seen Taxi Driver? It's not even the same thing. This asshole is nothing like Travis.
  • Re: Yasmin Alibhai-Brown: Licentiousness breeds extremism
     Reply #5 - January 11, 2010, 02:35 PM

    I understand what she's saying - its just that I am very uneasy with the causative link she makes between the more extreme manifestations of Islamism and Islamic social isolation and the permissiveness of British society, as if Britain is to blame for this. It used to be that British 'Islamophobia' was to blame, then 'poverty', and when these got debunked, now its Britain's easy going attitude towards sexuality that is responsible for us getting bombed and murdered. Also, not every kuffar in Britain is a licentious promiscuous wastrel. Britain is still a conservative country in many respects. And Islamists have always hated the slightest freedom of women - Qutb writes in his memoir of his journey to America in the 1950's his utter disgust and fear and hatred of the sight of kuffar women going to dances and walking around unchaperoned and talking to men who are not their father or husband - and that was at a time when American society was conservative, in which fashion and dress were demure.

    The fertiliser bomb plotters said they wanted to blow up the Ministry of Sound nightclub because the 'dancing sluts' deserved to die, just for being women and going to a nightclub to dance and enjoy themselves.




    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Yasmin Alibhai-Brown: Licentiousness breeds extremism
     Reply #6 - January 11, 2010, 02:40 PM

    That woman is an awful featherhead.  Roll Eyes

    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: Yasmin Alibhai-Brown: Licentiousness breeds extremism
     Reply #7 - January 11, 2010, 09:29 PM

    Her name should be changed to Yasmin Alibi-Brown. Wanna be an extremist? Wanna hate anyone who doesn't live like you do? Get your alibi here: it's all the fault of those slutty kufr.  Roll Eyes

    Bloody hell she writes some crap sometimes.

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
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