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  • American soldiers assimilate into Muslamic civilization...
     OP - January 16, 2010, 07:38 AM
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjwz6qxredQ

    Mashallah, the ways of Islam are spreading even among the soldiers of the kuffar. Surely, do you not reflect?
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: American soldiers assimilate into Muslamic civilization...
     Reply #1 - January 16, 2010, 07:42 AM
     Cheesy

    But seriously I shouldnt laugh at the real thing  Cry
    Pakistan Zindabad? ya Pakistan sey Zinda bhaag?

    Long Live Pakistan? Or run with your lives from Pakistan?
  • Re: American soldiers assimilate into Muslamic civilization...
     Reply #2 - January 16, 2010, 07:45 AM
    I only posted this because I felt they were very true and honest down to the details of this little Islamic ritual. Notice the camera man starting to shout Allahu Akbar in an increasing and frantic tempo... if you've watched videos of this and other Muslim acts of violence you'll always notice right at the moment of impact some fucker holding the camera does exactly that.. shouting allahu akbar like he's having a jihad orgasm. Whenever the stoning reaches its highest intensity, whenever the knife meets the skin, whenever the IED explodes just on time.. there is some fucker holding the camera going into this takbir frenzy.

    And I think the video pretty much summarizes in less than 50 second the Muslim contribution to modern human civilization in the 21st century.
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: American soldiers assimilate into Muslamic civilization...
     Reply #3 - January 16, 2010, 08:00 AM
    Quote from: Iblis on January 16, 2010, 07:45 AM
    shouting allahu akbar like he's having a jihad orgasm.


    OMG SO TRUE!
    If you're so devout, how come I am not dead?
  • Re: American soldiers assimilate into Muslamic civilization...
     Reply #4 - January 17, 2010, 12:49 AM
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2kitYUbHBM
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: American soldiers assimilate into Muslamic civilization...
     Reply #5 - January 17, 2010, 12:54 AM
    Quote from: Iblis on January 16, 2010, 07:45 AM
    if you've watched videos of this and other Muslim acts of violence you'll always notice right at the moment of impact some fucker holding the camera does exactly that.. shouting allahu akbar like he's having a jihad orgasm. Whenever the stoning reaches its highest intensity, whenever the knife meets the skin, whenever the IED explodes just on time.. there is some fucker holding the camera going into this takbir frenzy.

    And I think the video pretty much summarizes in less than 50 second the Muslim contribution to modern human civilization in the 21st century.

     Cheesy You'll have to wear the joker hat for another month if you carry on like that
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  • Re: American soldiers assimilate into Muslamic civilization...
     Reply #6 - January 18, 2010, 03:11 PM
    Quote from: Iblis on January 16, 2010, 07:45 AM

    And I think the video pretty much summarizes in less than 50 second the Muslim contribution to modern human civilization in the 21st century.


    You dont think there might be one or two Muslims doing something worthwhile for human civilization in this world?

    Maybe just one?

    I do think your comment says alot about staggering ignorance and stupidity
    "By the One in Whose Hand my soul is, were you not to commit sins, Allah would replace you with a people who would commit sins and then seek forgiveness from Allah; and Allah would forgive them." [Saheeh Muslim]

    "Wherever you are, death will find you, Even in the looming tower."
    - Quran 4:78
  • Re: American soldiers assimilate into Muslamic civilization...
     Reply #7 - January 18, 2010, 03:15 PM
    Quote from: Arab-Wannabe on January 18, 2010, 03:11 PM
    You dont think there might be one or two Muslims doing something worthwhile for human civilization in this world?

    Maybe just one?

    I do think your comment says alot about staggering ignorance and stupidity


    Chances are that its got nothing to do with Islam..
    "Modern man's great illusion has been to convince himself that of all that has gone before he represents the zenith of human accomplishment, but can't summon the mental powers to read anything more demanding than emoticons. Fascinating. "

    One very horny Turk I met on the net.
  • Re: American soldiers assimilate into Muslamic civilization...
     Reply #8 - January 18, 2010, 04:00 PM
    Right, because Islam encourages you to contribute nothing,  Islam forbids you to do anything good, etc.

    This place is slowly turning into jwatch/FFI.
    "By the One in Whose Hand my soul is, were you not to commit sins, Allah would replace you with a people who would commit sins and then seek forgiveness from Allah; and Allah would forgive them." [Saheeh Muslim]

    "Wherever you are, death will find you, Even in the looming tower."
    - Quran 4:78
  • Re: American soldiers assimilate into Muslamic civilization...
     Reply #9 - January 18, 2010, 04:09 PM
    Quote from: Arab-Wannabe on January 18, 2010, 04:00 PM
    Right, because Islam encourages you to contribute nothing,  Islam forbids you to do anything good, etc.

    This place is slowly turning into jwatch/FFI.


    No on an individual basis it may inspire people to do good things, the same way it can inspire other faithful individuals to do bad things as well.... the way all religions do after all.  So there is nothing special about it in that respect.  When you look at the impact it has on a society in general, it is definitely negative though as it hinders progress due to its nature.  Just look at most Islamic countries...

    Tell me... Why are you an 'Arab wannabe'?  Are you ashamed of your own ethnicity by any chance?
    "Modern man's great illusion has been to convince himself that of all that has gone before he represents the zenith of human accomplishment, but can't summon the mental powers to read anything more demanding than emoticons. Fascinating. "

    One very horny Turk I met on the net.
  • Re: American soldiers assimilate into Muslamic civilization...
     Reply #10 - January 18, 2010, 04:30 PM
    Quote from: Arab-Wannabe on January 18, 2010, 04:00 PM
    This place is slowly turning into jwatch/FFI.


    This is a bullshit statement, A-W-- there have always been a good number of people here who have been harshly critical of Islam, and a few "hardliners" who I think were over the line of FFI/jwatch-type bigotry. At least five by my count when I got here. Now there's only one who regularly contributes by my reckoning. And Iblis ain't it.

    You're really barking up the wrong tree with him-- Iblis is a tough critic of Islam, but he's very quick to call bullshit in no uncertain terms when someone crosses the line into mindless Muslim-bashing. In fact, I think if you haven't pissed him off too much, he'd probably concede that the statement you were responding to was either ill-considered or poorly-worded.

    I've always enjoyed your posts here, A-W, as you've provided an intelligent and sensible counterweight to some of the criticism of Islam here (and it's nice to hear clearly-reasoned and well-informed opposing opinions), but you're really picking a fight with the wrong person here and your statement about this place slowly turning into FFI is 100% bullshit.
    fuck you
  • Re: American soldiers assimilate into Muslamic civilization...
     Reply #11 - January 18, 2010, 07:47 PM
    Quote from: Arab-Wannabe on January 18, 2010, 03:11 PM
    You dont think there might be one or two Muslims doing something worthwhile for human civilization in this world?

    Maybe just one?

    I do think your comment says alot about staggering ignorance and stupidity


    Oh stop whining, its a bit ironic for a apologist for Islam to call others ignorant and stupid - you're the one who thinks an arabian pedophile is a guide for all men, not me Grin.

    And trust me I know plenty about Muslim history and current affairs in the Muslim world. My point is that 200 years from now when historians look back to this period, that simple beheading ritual is pretty much going to symbolize and summarize the Muslim contribution to modern human civilization. Not to say Muslims have not contributed things in the past, they have. But between the 1800s and now the only thing Muslims have innovated is the art of religious violence and repression. If you can name any other field of human endeavour that Muslims have advanced in this day and age, please do mention it.

    And I'm not talking about 'good' or 'bad' here, whatever that means. Of course there are plenty of good Muslims. My point is as a collective what will Muslims be remembered for? Obviously not mapping the human genome, modernizing our economies or advancing human rights.


    Quote from: Arab-Wannabe on January 18, 2010, 04:00 PM
    Right, because Islam encourages you to contribute nothing,  Islam forbids you to do anything good, etc.


    Islam is a state of mind.

    lol
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: American soldiers assimilate into Muslamic civilization...
     Reply #12 - January 18, 2010, 10:45 PM
    Quote from: Iblis on January 18, 2010, 07:47 PM
    Islam is a state of mind.

    Yes.  There is no universal definition of what muslims accept & believe, but there is a commonality in mindset..
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  • Re: American soldiers assimilate into Muslamic civilization...
     Reply #13 - January 18, 2010, 11:15 PM
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKjj4hk0pV4

    I'm sure the song can be adapted to Islam with minimal lyrics changes.
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: American soldiers assimilate into Muslamic civilization...
     Reply #14 - January 19, 2010, 12:15 PM
    Quote from: Q-Man on January 18, 2010, 04:30 PM
    You're really barking up the wrong tree with him-- Iblis is a tough critic of Islam, but he's very quick to call bullshit in no uncertain terms when someone crosses the line into mindless Muslim-bashing.


    You may be right, but the fact that such a person as you describe would say something as stupid and reductionist as this :

     "And I think the video pretty much summarizes in less than 50 second the Muslim contribution to modern human civilization in the 21st century"

    helps to support my point.
    "By the One in Whose Hand my soul is, were you not to commit sins, Allah would replace you with a people who would commit sins and then seek forgiveness from Allah; and Allah would forgive them." [Saheeh Muslim]

    "Wherever you are, death will find you, Even in the looming tower."
    - Quran 4:78
  • Re: American soldiers assimilate into Muslamic civilization...
     Reply #15 - January 19, 2010, 12:33 PM
    Quote from: Iblis on January 18, 2010, 07:47 PM
    And trust me I know plenty about Muslim history and current affairs in the Muslim world. My point is that 200 years from now when historians look back to this period, that simple beheading ritual is pretty much going to symbolize and summarize the Muslim contribution to modern human civilization.


    If in 200 years, historians have all become ignorant, stupid and reductionist, then yes that's what they would do.

    No need to look 200 years into the future however, we already have "scholars"like that: Spencer, Pipes, Bostom, Trifkovic etc.. all the same essentialist crap making basically the same point and relying on their ignorant readers to spread their bigoted agenda.

    Real scholars, such as  Bernard Lewish, would never reduce the accomplishments of an entire culture spanning continents to the acts of Al-qaeda linked groups in war zones. Thats because they are neither ignorant nor bigoted.

    "By the One in Whose Hand my soul is, were you not to commit sins, Allah would replace you with a people who would commit sins and then seek forgiveness from Allah; and Allah would forgive them." [Saheeh Muslim]

    "Wherever you are, death will find you, Even in the looming tower."
    - Quran 4:78
  • Re: American soldiers assimilate into Muslamic civilization...
     Reply #16 - January 19, 2010, 12:45 PM
    So give me one significant contribution to come from a Muslim society to science since 1100 AD
    "Modern man's great illusion has been to convince himself that of all that has gone before he represents the zenith of human accomplishment, but can't summon the mental powers to read anything more demanding than emoticons. Fascinating. "

    One very horny Turk I met on the net.
  • Re: American soldiers assimilate into Muslamic civilization...
     Reply #17 - January 19, 2010, 03:03 PM
    There were some significant Muslim scientists and thinkers up till the 1220s. But any sort of worthwhile contribution dries up after that. There were some military advances under the Ottomans and Muslim Indians, but nothing that Europeans didn't later quickly catch up on.
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: American soldiers assimilate into Muslamic civilization...
     Reply #18 - January 19, 2010, 03:15 PM
    As soon as the competitive advantage of a group of blood-dribbling sword-swirling tyrants dries up, so does the advance of Islam.  

    The world moved on, the best Islam now has to offer in terms of news worthiness lately is stories of genital mutilation and suicide bombers.  

    Great contribution, lets give Islam a clap  clap
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  • Re: American soldiers assimilate into Muslamic civilization...
     Reply #19 - January 19, 2010, 03:20 PM
    Well.. I'm not talking about "Islam". "Islam" contributed nothing. Just like Communism, Christianity, Judaism contributed nothing. People make advances, not ideas. And I don't think the great achievments of classical medieval Muslim civilization can be called an achievment of "Islam". No more than the works of Galileo or Copernicus can be considered and achievement of "Christainity" or Catholicism.
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: American soldiers assimilate into Muslamic civilization...
     Reply #20 - January 19, 2010, 03:20 PM
    Quote from: Iblis on January 18, 2010, 11:15 PM
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKjj4hk0pV4

    I'm sure the song can be adapted to Islam with minimal lyrics changes.


    Artist: Jihad Joe
    Album:  Islamatic
    Song:   Muslim State of Mind

    [Intro: Jihad Joe]
    Yeah yeah, Salam brother it's time (takbir)
    (Takbir, it's time brother)
    Yeah, it's time man (aight brother, begin)

    [Verse One: Jihad Joe]
    Infidels I monkey flip 'em with the funky rhythm I be kickin
    Religion, inflictin recitation
    of pain I'm like Oktar* sniffin cocaine

    Adnan Oktar = Haryun Yayah
  • Re: American soldiers assimilate into Muslamic civilization...
     Reply #21 - January 19, 2010, 03:21 PM
    Grin
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: American soldiers assimilate into Muslamic civilization...
     Reply #22 - January 19, 2010, 07:28 PM
    Quote from: Arab-Wannabe on January 18, 2010, 04:00 PM
    Right, because Islam encourages you to contribute nothing,  Islam forbids you to do anything good, etc.

    This place is slowly turning into jwatch/FFI.

    The earlier comment should have said 'islam contributed nothing to the 20-1st Century'. But yes, islam exerts a negative influence on any society fortunate enough to implement islam. Plz keep that book to yourself. It is harmful to people. Even to those who choose not to accept it.


    "Ask the slave girl; she will tell you the truth.' So the Apostle called Burayra to ask her. Ali got up and gave her a violent beating first, saying, 'Tell the Apostle the truth.'"
  • Re: American soldiers assimilate into Muslamic civilization...
     Reply #23 - January 19, 2010, 07:28 PM
    Quote from: Iblis on January 19, 2010, 03:03 PM
    There were some significant Muslim scientists and thinkers up till the 1220s. But any sort of worthwhile contribution dries up after that. There were some military advances under the Ottomans and Muslim Indians, but nothing that Europeans didn't later quickly catch up on.


    Ever hear of a guy called Ibn Khaldun? What about the work of Ibn al Nafiz theastronomer Ibn al-shatir and the influence on copernicus? And what if these people didnt exist? do you think your reductionist assertion would make any more sense.

    You obviously know very little about Islamic history instead you repeat the nonsense peddled by the anti-muslim bigots.
    "By the One in Whose Hand my soul is, were you not to commit sins, Allah would replace you with a people who would commit sins and then seek forgiveness from Allah; and Allah would forgive them." [Saheeh Muslim]

    "Wherever you are, death will find you, Even in the looming tower."
    - Quran 4:78
  • Re: American soldiers assimilate into Muslamic civilization...
     Reply #24 - January 19, 2010, 07:30 PM
    Quote from: ras111 on January 19, 2010, 12:45 PM
    So give me one significant contribution to come from a Muslim society to science since 1100 AD


    Nothing, apart from beheadings on the internet.

    "By the One in Whose Hand my soul is, were you not to commit sins, Allah would replace you with a people who would commit sins and then seek forgiveness from Allah; and Allah would forgive them." [Saheeh Muslim]

    "Wherever you are, death will find you, Even in the looming tower."
    - Quran 4:78
  • Re: American soldiers assimilate into Muslamic civilization...
     Reply #25 - January 19, 2010, 07:33 PM
    Ibn Khaldun still falls under the medieval period. I'm talking about modern post-medieval history. Muslims have contributed nothing since that period. Ibn Khaldun I forgot to consider since he's a bit of a brilliant stragler and one of the last genuine Muslim scientists and philsophers before a complete halt to any Muslim contribution to the sciences. But he's pretty much the last.

    Quote from: Arab-Wannabe on January 19, 2010, 07:28 PM
    You obviously know very little about Islamic history instead you repeat the nonsense peddled by the anti-muslim bigots.


    Give me a fucking break. Stop believing in the ideology of an desert pedophile and then you can speak on nonsense. Until then, hush.

    You know nothing about me or my knowledge about Islamic history. So speak for yourself Muslim.
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: American soldiers assimilate into Muslamic civilization...
     Reply #26 - January 19, 2010, 07:38 PM
    Quote from: Arab-Wannabe on January 19, 2010, 07:30 PM
    Nothing, apart from beheadings on the internet.


    Pretty much.
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: American soldiers assimilate into Muslamic civilization...
     Reply #27 - January 19, 2010, 07:40 PM
    Quote from: Arab-Wannabe on January 19, 2010, 12:33 PM
    If in 200 years, historians have all become ignorant, stupid and reductionist, then yes that's what they would do.

    No need to look 200 years into the future however, we already have "scholars"like that: Spencer, Pipes, Bostom, Trifkovic etc.. all the same essentialist crap making basically the same point and relying on their ignorant readers to spread their bigoted agenda.

    Real scholars, such as  Bernard Lewish, would never reduce the accomplishments of an entire culture spanning continents to the acts of Al-qaeda linked groups in war zones. Thats because they are neither ignorant nor bigoted.


    Easy on that Trick AW, you insult islam the harshest on the thread and then crying about islam being insulted. You are the one who states the islamic accomplishments of entire continents is reduced to al-qaeda. That works on whiteys who might only know islam through al-qaeda. But we do not care much about al-qaeda. We see islam through the imams. Through the local mosques. Through what is said on speakers in those mosques. Through the lives of your friends and family. Through our own lives.

    Will historians see islam through al-qaeda (the base)? perhaps. Probably actually. Why? Because guys like you can not give them an alternative. All you can do, is what you always do. You accept the harsh Truth, you insult islam even harder, and then start crying about it. You are a horrible defender of islam, you fail to change the perception of the westerner academics away from al-qaeda and Ikhwan and mullahtocracies, and I can assure you guys like us will not lift too many fingers to change their perceptions either.
    "Ask the slave girl; she will tell you the truth.' So the Apostle called Burayra to ask her. Ali got up and gave her a violent beating first, saying, 'Tell the Apostle the truth.'"
  • Re: American soldiers assimilate into Muslamic civilization...
     Reply #28 - January 19, 2010, 07:42 PM

    Well, Kaiwai the reverse takfiri has declared Iblis to be a phoney fake ex-Muslim, and now he's been accused of being an ignorant bigot ex-Muslim, so I guess that covers all bases  Afro
    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


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  • Re: American soldiers assimilate into Muslamic civilization...
     Reply #29 - January 19, 2010, 07:46 PM
    Quote from: billy on January 19, 2010, 07:42 PM
    Well, Kaiwai the reverse takfiri has declared Iblis to be a phoney fake ex-Muslim, and now he's been accused of being an ignorant bigot ex-Muslim, so I guess that covers all bases  Afro


    lol I love it. Its always that fine equilibrium I go for. When musulmans consider me a bigot and bigots consider me a musulman I'm the happiest.  dance
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

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