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  • This is brilliant!
     OP - January 16, 2010, 02:46 PM
    Nadeem F. Paracha is just so damn amazing! and he has always had agnostic/atheist views about religion.

    http://blog.dawn.com/2010/01/14/holy-sms/

     Cheesy Cheesy
    Pakistan Zindabad? ya Pakistan sey Zinda bhaag?

    Long Live Pakistan? Or run with your lives from Pakistan?
  • Re: This is brilliant!
     Reply #1 - January 16, 2010, 03:52 PM
    I am pretty sure he's agnostic, I have read many of his articles.  Wouldn't be surprised if he gets a fatwa issued on his head.
    If you're so devout, how come I am not dead?
  • Re: This is brilliant!
     Reply #2 - January 16, 2010, 03:54 PM
    I hate the way he people are meant to be embarrassed by saying they are irreligious.. I dont even bother, I usually go the full hog and tell them i think Islam is man-made.
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  • Re: This is brilliant!
     Reply #3 - January 16, 2010, 03:57 PM
    Quote from: IsLame on January 16, 2010, 03:54 PM
    I hate the way he people are meant to be embarrassed by saying they are irreligious.. I dont even bother, I usually go the full hog and tell them i think Islam is man-made.


    It's hard to say that out loud in Pakistan..
    If you're so devout, how come I am not dead?
  • Re: This is brilliant!
     Reply #4 - January 16, 2010, 04:04 PM

    I can kind of see the same conversation happening in England amongst the brothers and sisters too  Roll Eyes
    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: This is brilliant!
     Reply #5 - January 16, 2010, 04:16 PM
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bYcKNTwkMM
    Pakistan Zindabad? ya Pakistan sey Zinda bhaag?

    Long Live Pakistan? Or run with your lives from Pakistan?
  • Re: This is brilliant!
     Reply #6 - January 16, 2010, 04:17 PM
    Quote from: taraC on January 16, 2010, 03:57 PM
    It's hard to say that out loud in Pakistan..

    I know , but Atheist.pk managed it,  and I would have done the same thing too..
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  • Re: This is brilliant!
     Reply #7 - January 16, 2010, 04:25 PM
    Quote from: IsLame on January 16, 2010, 04:17 PM
    I know , but Atheist.pk managed it,  and I would have done the same thing too..

    Managed like 30% of it to be honest, and that too only with my own family some close members of my extended family - much to their surprise, denial, shock, concern, anger, sadness, arrogance (you name it) etc etc, They are tolerating it as merely a 'phase' in my life.  Roll Eyes

    But I am very tight lipped about it for the rest of the people here - I dont really have much friends where I live to be honest. One fellow I am friendly with is a typical show-off party-lover pseudo-religious fellow. But I prefer if he yaps about girls, partying, and telling me duas to recite whilst jogging... its better than hate.  Roll Eyes

    That said, I understand taraC's concerns given she is a girl in a religious family. No telling what her parents/siblings will do if they hear it. Better to avoid.
    Pakistan Zindabad? ya Pakistan sey Zinda bhaag?

    Long Live Pakistan? Or run with your lives from Pakistan?
  • Re: This is brilliant!
     Reply #8 - January 16, 2010, 04:29 PM
    Quote from: atheist.pk on January 16, 2010, 04:16 PM
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bYcKNTwkMM


    Interesting guy, seems like a decent fella.


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: This is brilliant!
     Reply #9 - January 16, 2010, 04:30 PM
    Quote from: atheist.pk on January 16, 2010, 04:16 PM
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bYcKNTwkMM

    Clever man Afro  I find a lot of educated middle-aged men in Pak think the same as him, is that true?
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  • Re: This is brilliant!
     Reply #10 - January 16, 2010, 04:33 PM
    Depends what background they are from. Nadeem Farooq Paracha has always had leftist-marxist views since his youth days and has always been in the forefront of cultural and political satire for years. Him and Fasi Zaka are just brilliant.

    Take a look at his works: http://www.chowk.com/writers/1054
    Pakistan Zindabad? ya Pakistan sey Zinda bhaag?

    Long Live Pakistan? Or run with your lives from Pakistan?
  • Re: This is brilliant!
     Reply #11 - January 16, 2010, 04:35 PM
    Quote from: IsLame on January 16, 2010, 04:17 PM
    I know , but Atheist.pk managed it,  and I would have done the same thing too..


    Islame, it's hard to openly call Islam man-made here because that would be social suicide. No one wants to befriend a self declared murtid. Some of my friends know but even they think I am really immature, crazy and going through a rebellious "phase".  If I were living in a non-muslim country, I wouldn't care so much since I wouldn't be isolated. Out of all the people I know, I just know one ex-muslim in real life. No one else can even take slightest criticsm on Islam without getting deeply offended even if they are the most "enlightened moderated" pseudo molvi types who think its okay to drink and party but still be muslim
    If you're so devout, how come I am not dead?
  • Re: This is brilliant!
     Reply #12 - January 16, 2010, 04:43 PM
    I can empathise with that, my family & extended family are the same.  You are actually lucky, you know one more ex-muslims that I did when i apostated.  How did you meet them?  Did you have a mutual effect on each other? I wouldnt wory about the religious lot, they are no loss as I doubt you would want to be friends with them anyway.

    If deists, irrelegious, socialists, communists, agnostics, atheists, universalists group together in pak, I am sure that you will have a far more powerful lobby both socially, culturally & politically.
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  • Re: This is brilliant!
     Reply #13 - January 16, 2010, 04:51 PM
    Quote from: IsLame on January 16, 2010, 04:43 PM
    I can empathise with that, my family & extended family are the same.  You are actually lucky, you know one more ex-muslims that I did when i apostated.  How did you meet them?  Did you have a mutual effect on each other? I wouldnt wory about the religious lot, they are no loss as I doubt you would want to be friends with them anyway.


    He's an acquintance, not even a friend really. Randomly met at a party when we were both drunk and shared our apostacy stories Smiley  But yeah, he's the only ex-muslim I know in real life.
    If you're so devout, how come I am not dead?
  • Re: This is brilliant!
     Reply #14 - January 16, 2010, 04:58 PM
    You were drunk in Pakistan?  I understand atheism is prevalent but its a shame people cant be open about it.  The mullahs have created such a climate of fear that no-one dare speak out.  I bet loads more would come through the woodwork if you could be open.  
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  • Re: This is brilliant!
     Reply #15 - January 16, 2010, 05:00 PM
    I have a rather unorthodox slightly-secular uncle, but even he doesnt rate lack of belief in a god (i.e. Allah) as something different. He is a cool open man though. I like him regardless.

    Lol, us CEMB members of Pakistan should try meeting in real life.  Cheesy
    Pakistan Zindabad? ya Pakistan sey Zinda bhaag?

    Long Live Pakistan? Or run with your lives from Pakistan?
  • Re: This is brilliant!
     Reply #16 - January 16, 2010, 05:01 PM
    http://blog.dawn.com/2009/12/17/pakistan's-new-media-dictionary/  Cheesy
    Pakistan Zindabad? ya Pakistan sey Zinda bhaag?

    Long Live Pakistan? Or run with your lives from Pakistan?
  • Re: This is brilliant!
     Reply #17 - January 16, 2010, 05:05 PM
    Quote from: IsLame on January 16, 2010, 04:58 PM
    You were drunk in Pakistan?  I understand but its a shame people cant be open about it.  The mullahs have created such a climate of fear that no-one dare speak out.  I bet loads more would come through the woodwork if you could be open. 

    Yeah, not so hard to get alcohol here especially not in karachi. Don't know about other cities though.
    If you're so devout, how come I am not dead?
  • Re: This is brilliant!
     Reply #18 - January 16, 2010, 05:07 PM
    where do people get alchohol from in pak?  werent you worried about being found out or do a lot of people do it?  e.g. out of your year what % of people would you say have tasted alcohol at some point in their lives?
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  • Re: This is brilliant!
     Reply #19 - January 16, 2010, 05:08 PM
    Quote from: atheist.pk on January 16, 2010, 05:00 PM

    Lol, us CEMB members of Pakistan should try meeting in real life.  Cheesy


    Yeah we should.
    Karachi?
    If you're so devout, how come I am not dead?
  • Re: This is brilliant!
     Reply #20 - January 16, 2010, 05:10 PM
    I'm in Multan -_-
    Pakistan Zindabad? ya Pakistan sey Zinda bhaag?

    Long Live Pakistan? Or run with your lives from Pakistan?
  • Re: This is brilliant!
     Reply #21 - January 16, 2010, 05:20 PM
    Quote from: atheist.pk on January 16, 2010, 05:10 PM
    I'm in Multan -_-


    wow!
    Infidels in multan! never expected that.
    If you're so devout, how come I am not dead?
  • Re: This is brilliant!
     Reply #22 - January 16, 2010, 05:21 PM
    Quote from: taraC on January 16, 2010, 05:20 PM
    wow!
    Infidels in multan! never expected that.

    read my story: http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=5289.0

    It took its time to be honest.  grin12
    Pakistan Zindabad? ya Pakistan sey Zinda bhaag?

    Long Live Pakistan? Or run with your lives from Pakistan?
  • Re: This is brilliant!
     Reply #23 - January 16, 2010, 05:24 PM
    Quote from: IsLame on January 16, 2010, 05:07 PM
    where do people get alchohol from in pak?  werent you worried about being found out or do a lot of people do it?  e.g. out of your year what % of people would you say have tasted alcohol at some point in their lives?

    I don't know about other cities but it's really easy to get in karachi. If a cop catches me, I'll just bribe him with a couple of hundred rupees at most.
    Well karachi is a diverse city with a huge population so we have fanatic crazies too and also some very liberal folks. Out of the rich liberal folks, I would say atleast 50% of the guys must have tasted alcohol or smoked up at some point but definitly VERY FEW girls since they don't get permission to stay out late and go to parties.
    If you're so devout, how come I am not dead?
  • Re: This is brilliant!
     Reply #24 - January 16, 2010, 05:26 PM
    Easy to get booze in Lahore and Islamabad as well. Plus people often say that the girls in Lahore are HOT!!  Wink
    Pakistan Zindabad? ya Pakistan sey Zinda bhaag?

    Long Live Pakistan? Or run with your lives from Pakistan?
  • Re: This is brilliant!
     Reply #25 - January 16, 2010, 05:27 PM
    Quote from: atheist.pk on January 16, 2010, 05:26 PM
    Plus people often say that the girls in Lahore are HOT!!  Wink


    No way man, Karachi girls are HOTTER. Trust me.
    If you're so devout, how come I am not dead?
  • Re: This is brilliant!
     Reply #26 - January 16, 2010, 05:31 PM
    Quote from: taraC on January 16, 2010, 05:27 PM
    No way man, Karachi girls are HOTTER. Trust me.

    LOL, well that depends. A lot of my male cousins (all younger than me) whom I am frank have lived in Karachi their entire lives and will ALWAYS complain that finding a hot girl is near to impossible in Karachi (given the size), but in Lahore every other girl is a fit bachi and cant help but stare whenever they have visited that place.

    Plus, I too am regular visitor in Lahore and even lived there for 2 years...and I will confirm that. Unfortunately I have always been a shy bugger my entire life (still am to an extent) and avoided girls  Cry  Cheesy
    Pakistan Zindabad? ya Pakistan sey Zinda bhaag?

    Long Live Pakistan? Or run with your lives from Pakistan?
  • Re: This is brilliant!
     Reply #27 - January 16, 2010, 05:33 PM
     Cheesy @ "fit bachi". 
    If you're so devout, how come I am not dead?
  • Re: This is brilliant!
     Reply #28 - January 16, 2010, 05:36 PM
    so where do you get it from?  behind shop counters?
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  • Re: This is brilliant!
     Reply #29 - January 16, 2010, 05:37 PM
    Quote from: taraC on January 16, 2010, 05:33 PM
    Cheesy @ "fit bachi".  


    You can sense the sexual frustration in the land of the pure by miles.  whistling2

    I am no different...  lipsrsealed
    Pakistan Zindabad? ya Pakistan sey Zinda bhaag?

    Long Live Pakistan? Or run with your lives from Pakistan?
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