Re: EDL on BBC Asian radio
Reply #6 - January 24, 2010, 02:31 PM
he three speeches made at the demo are below:
Speech 1
Societies are fragile.
This great nation did not fall down from the sky or come down in the last shower of rain; It was built up by a thousand years of toil and struggle and against, at times, fierce opposition.
In recent times our parents and grandparents fought the Nazi ideology.
At great cost, Nazi Germany was defeated but, of course, evil forces manifest themselves in different ways and in other times and places; a vigilant people need to be always awake to danger; awake to anything which threatens our society.
Our nation fought for liberty and to protect freedom in World War II. But today, liberty and freedom are threatened by Muslim preachers and their sympathisers who want to bring Sharia law into this country.
Sharia means the slavish domination of women, rule by Muslims, intolerance of and discrimination towards non-Muslims, and the end of democracy.
Ironically, our soldiers are now fighting foreign wars, suffering and dying for societies that are committed to the enforcement of Sharia -- While at the same time we have to fight against the forces of Sharia in THIS country.
We demand that the government understand and lock horns with an ideology, masquerading as a religion, and deal with the people who seek to turn this ?green and pleasant land? into Sharia-land, into a theocratic state run by Mullahs and those who wield the sword of Islam.
As we failed to do prior to World War II, it is essential to know our enemies, and it is no secret what their plans are and what they believe.
Osama bin Laden and Al-Qaeda have accurately summed up the traditional position of Islam and its relationship to all non-Muslims. Based on Qur'an 9:29, he says:
??we are to force people by the power of the sword to live by our particular understandings, customs and conditions, all in order to induce debasement and humility, just like Allah commanded??
He believes: There are only three choices for the infidel in Islam: either willing submission, that is become a Muslim; or pay a special tax which is applied only to non-Muslims, or the sword.
Osama bin Laden goes on to say, and I quote him verbatim: ?The matter is summed up for every person alive: either submit, or live under the control of Islam, or die.?
To Osama bin Laden, Al-Qaeda and all their supporters and sympathisers, no matter where you are -- from the caves of Afghanistan to homes in London, Liverpool or Luton -- we say: ?Get the hell out of this country!?
Our society is under threat because our tolerance and our generosity towards those of other countries and cultures are being used by intolerant people, in order to promote intolerance. This is a weakness in our society which can be exploited by them for only so long.
We stand here today in Stoke as we did in Luton, Birmingham, Manchester, Leeds, and Nottingham, and say: We as a society will only be pushed so far but no further.
The English Defence League urges you to take this message back to your communities and find peaceful ways to push back the forces of Sharia, wherever it raises its ugly head.
From Land's End to John O'Groats we say: We will never submit!
Speech 2 - by a Sikh EDL member:
The Fight Goes On ? Speech at EDL Demonstration at Stoke-on-Trent by Guramit Singh EDL
I would first like to start today to remember a fellow admin of Walsall Martin Barrasford, our hearts go out to your family, and also the soldiers abroad and all their families at home, I can?t imagine what you?re going through, and finally all the victims of the earthquake in Haiti, god bless you all.
For nearly a year now the EDL have been fighting against the threat of militant Islam, sharia law being introduced, and supporting our soldiers abroad, I think the government have forgot just how much of a threat militant Islam is, have they forgot about 9/11, have they forgot about 7/7, have they forgot about the hostage situation in Russia in 2004 where 1200 were kept hostage for 3 days and 300 were murdered, nearly 200 of which were children, all done in the name of Islam.
Although I don?t believe the introduction of sharia law to be an immediate threat it is a worry we have to face now, the enemy is knocking at our door but this government refuses to answer due to its politically correct madness, I don?t want a future where my children or grandchildren will have to bow before Islam, I don?t want a future for my children where I have to worry if a Muslim man would be able to have sex with my daughter when she is a minor and him having a legal right to do so, I don?t want to see the grandmothers, mothers, daughters, and sisters of this great land suppressed by Islam, I don?t want to have to worry if they are beaten, hanged, stoned, raped, or even circumcised due to the freedom they enjoy, the suffragettes suffered and fought for women?s rights in this country, I don?t want this country to go back in time.
For close to a year the EDL have been marching making the public and government aware of these threats to this country, one issue we have highlighted time and time again is our concerns aboutislam4uk, which is led by hate cleric Anjem Choudary and his team of militant cowardly goons, the same person that spits on this country and its people and then has the audacity to claim benefits from it to support himself and his family, the same organisation which praises the terrorists attacks I highlighted earlier and fully supports them, only recently the government banned his farce of an organisation islam4uk after their proposed march on Wooten basset, too late Mr Gordon Brown, the damage has been done, we ask you to listen to our plea now, we have proven our theories are correct, already Anjem Choudary and his team of rats is starting a new organisation, your ban on islam4uk has not deterred them, let?s start with banning his and all of his organisations benefits, they?re trying so hard to disrupt this country I find it quite frankly impossible they are actively seeking work to be in legal receipt of them, from there start putting them on the watch list and infiltrate any areas of concern, from there start deporting them to foreign countries such as Afghanistan they are so clearly concerned about.
The public needs to wake up and start putting pressure on the government to start doing something about this, Bob Spink MP Early Day Motion 288, it highlights the use of sharia courts in this country and puts an end to them, one law for all men and women the common law, it also bans all radical Muslims from this country, please write to your local mp to sign the EDM288, it?s a start, it?s not racist to love your country, it?s not racist to fight for your children?s future, it?s not racist to highlight the threat of militant Islam and what it is trying to achieve and fight against it, it?s not racist to join the EDL!!!
Recently a reporter recently classed me as ?the anti-racist poster boy for the EDL?, no member of the EDL put a knife to my throat and forced me to join, I?m not being paid or reading from a speech someone has wrote for me, that?s not the EDL?s terms of practise, unlike militant Islam, I researched into the English Defence League and agreed with its views 100%, I marched in Nottingham, spoke with members and knew this was a subject I felt very strongly about and joined, and have never regretted since, the UAF are at home now thinking my God, it looks like this is a non-racist organisation, I know what we can do, we?ll call him a racist Sikh, but what about my black friend who?s here speaking for the EDL, well we?ll have to call him a black racist as well they?ll say, but what about all the different faiths colours and creeds I?ve been meeting, I?m finding it getting more multicultural as days go by, they have no excuses, their accusations are now lies, the Nazi?s are racist, militant Islam is racist, they do not accept anybody apart from their own, this is the English Defence League and we shun your comments of racism because it does not exist in this organisation.
Sikhs for 100?s of years have been fighting militant Islam and have not lost yet, from bringing down the Mogul Empire to defending its people during partition, to the recent terrorist attacks in India, the Sikh regiment has stood and fought alongside Great Britain in WW1 and WW2 to name a few, well this British Sikh is going to stand alongside the English Defence League and fight militant Islam.
I leave you with the words of Sir Winston Churchill.
We shall fight on the seas and shores?.
We shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air..
We shall defend our island whatever the cost maybe?.
We shall fight on the beaches?.
We shall fight on the landing grounds?.
We shall fight in the fields and the streets?.
We shall fight in the hills?.But?.
WE WILL NEVER SURRENDER!!!!!!
Speech 3 - by a black EDL member:
As a Black man I stand here to say that the English Defence League is not a racist organisation.
I have known many of these people for years and have participated in previous demonstrations. Racism is simply not part of their policy or reflected by their membership.
My presence here gives the lie to the accusation by many media outlets and anti-racist organisations that the EDL is a front for racist organisations in this country. I would not be here if it was.
The EDL is supportive of my interests in promoting harmony between races and people of colour. I see the EDL as defending my interests as a black man to live in a society where skin colour does not play a part in how society functions. As Martin Luther King jr. said many years ago in his famous ?I have a Dream? speech: ?one day [our children will] live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
The EDL?s stand against Sharia law and radical Islam is a stand against a supremacist ideology masquerading as a religion which says that Muslims are better than non-Muslims and that Muslim men are the best of the lot.
This distinction based on what a person believes is no less evil than a distinction based on colour.
My conscience, that is what I choose to believe, is as much a part of me as the colour of my skin. If I choose not to embrace Islam I am no less a man because of it. And from what I understand of Islam I would say I am much better off if I do NOT submit to Allah!
But an Islamic society would mistreat me, as a non-Muslim, in the same way as a white racist society would treat a black slave.
?Kaffir? is the Islamic word for non-muslim; and it is simply the Islamic version of the word ?nigger.?
Black men and women have come too far and suffered too much to replace one form of slavery with another. We will not be mistreated nor do we wish to mistreat others.
I will not put up with it and neither should this nation!
I say: No to racism, no to sharia!
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