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Re: Evidence for Evolution
Reply #30 - February 01, 2010, 09:05 PM

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I have a question. Evolution tells me life started as a simple bacterial form and then continued to grow more and more complex. Were did that bacteria come from? you can mix stuff with bacteria to create many things, but you can't create bacteria alone. Or am i wrong?

I havn't studied much about evolution so I might be wrong here but I think it had something to do with the formation of DNA and RNA that started life at the single cell microogranism level.

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Re: Evidence for Evolution
Reply #31 - February 01, 2010, 10:16 PM

Quote from: Aa on February 01, 2010, 08:49 PM
I have a question. Evolution tells me life started as a simple bacterial form and then continued to grow more and more complex. Were did that bacteria come from? you can mix stuff with bacteria to create many things, but you can't create bacteria alone. Or am i wrong?

happened way befoee bacteria. First started off when protein learned to replicated itself..

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Re: Evidence for Evolution
Reply #32 - February 02, 2010, 07:48 AM

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Re: Evidence for Evolution
Reply #33 - February 06, 2010, 10:21 AM

Quote from: billy on January 29, 2010, 05:12 PM
Why is it only reactionary Christians and Muslims that seem to have a red chilli stuck up their ass about evolution?

Why don't Buddhists and Hindus, and as far as I know, Jews, not care about it? Is it because they assimilate it into their worldview (I'm talking specifically about Hindus and Buddhists here)

Reactionary Christians and Muslims seem utterly terrified about evolution - it really hits a raw nerve. Is it their stupid totalising truth claims that evolution threatens? In the Islamic case, the veracity of the perfection claims of Islam? Because it doesn't just challenge their precepts, it kicks them in the balls and hangs them upside down to have custard pies thrown at their face, doesn't it?

But Buddhists and Hindus seem chill about it all. I suppose those belief systems have an inclusive and welcoming attitude towards evolution because it doesn't seem to disturb their worldview.

Its rather pathetic to be honest, this bed wetting by Muslims and Christians over it all.

Buddhists don't believe in a creator God, and therefore they don't have any problems with evolution. Hindus are a heterogeneous lot; you will find atheists as well as firm believers in a creator God calling themselves Hindu simply because there is no single belief, except probably the idea of enlightenment or moksha, which is common to all of them. Some Hindus even claim that the ten avataras actually signify evolution .

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Re: Evidence for Evolution
Reply #34 - February 06, 2010, 07:55 PM

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Re: Evidence for Evolution
Reply #35 - February 06, 2010, 08:33 PM

Quote from: IsLame on February 01, 2010, 10:16 PM
happened way befoee bacteria. First started off when protein learned to replicated itself..

Nothing has to learn anything in evolutionary terms. Things just happen because they can. If chemical reactions happen because they are faster than neighbouring chemical reactions, they are going to sequester the available chemical resources before competing systems do and put them out of business. This triggers open warfare and the winning reactions are the observably extant. don't forget that it's thought that it took c. a billion years of chemical 'evolution' before the first provable cell appeared. Once you've got your first cell , the rest is easy.
Once you have chemicals that help other chemicals to capture yet more chemicals, by positioning, compartmentalising and ordering their reactions, then you have life, of a sort.
After that, you need cells that capture other cells, to mutual advantage, and then you've got multi-cellular life.

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Re: Evidence for Evolution
Reply #36 - February 23, 2010, 11:43 PM

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Re: Evidence for Evolution
Reply #37 - February 24, 2010, 12:08 AM

Proof for evolution. That's all you need is two big bat nuts and a penis. Honestly Dawkins is wasting his time he should just send this pic to creationists. Somebody should email this to Hamza Yusuf.
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Re: Evidence for Evolution
Reply #38 - February 24, 2010, 09:07 AM

Quote from: BlackDog on February 24, 2010, 12:08 AM
Proof for evolution. That's all you need is two big bat nuts and a penis. Honestly Dawkins is wasting his time he should just send this pic to creationists. Somebody should email this to Hamza Yusuf.

I don't think Hamza denies evolution outright. He would be very foolish to do so. From what I have gathered through his talks etc, is that there are parts that he would accept as long as they don't contradict islam and there are parts that he would reject.
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Re: Evidence for Evolution
Reply #39 - February 24, 2010, 04:07 PM

Their is some evidence of amino acids (the founding blocks of DNA) found on/in rocks in deserts, and cause of the conditions they have been preserved cos of them. So this could be the founding base of life, instances of meteors and things bringing in chemicals etc.
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Re: Evidence for Evolution
Reply #40 - February 24, 2010, 04:11 PM

http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/tandf/ugmb/2003/00000020/00000005/art00002
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Re: Evidence for Evolution
Reply #41 - February 24, 2010, 04:12 PM

If what in there, it is still confusing.
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Re: Evidence for Evolution
Reply #42 - June 29, 2011, 10:54 AM

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Quick evolution leads to quiet crickets

Attack of the flesh-eating parasitoid maggots!! Mutant mute crickets run rampant in tropical paradise!! The headlines may sound like a trailer for a cheap horror flick but in fact, these sensationalist sound bites accurately describe the situation on the Hawaiian island of Kauai. The "flesh-eating

http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/news/061201_quietcrickets

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