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  • Re: Awkward questions to ask "moderate" Muslims...
     Reply #180 - October 30, 2010, 11:37 PM

    because banning alcohol would have made everyone immediately turn away - and he would have had possibly no followers to begin with. 

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  • Re: Awkward questions to ask "moderate" Muslims...
     Reply #181 - October 30, 2010, 11:40 PM

    I tried debating with some Muslims about the issue of abrogation; and it's the same reply:

    "Arogation means the gradual change of law, so Allah could bestow his infinite wisdom and knowledge upon mankind..."

    Muslims don't like to accept the fact that the Qur'an itself mentions abrogation blatantly in the verse:
    "And when we put a revelation in place of (another) revelation and Allah knows best what He reveals -- they say: you are just inventing it. Most of them do not know. Say: The Holy Spirit (Gibril) has revealed it from your hand with truth and as a guidance and good news for those who have surrendered (to God)" [16:101-102]"

    Read this comical fatwa as well: http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=7&ID=2656

    Abrogation means change. Muslims don't think so, adding to their crazy blindness.

  • Re: Awkward questions to ask "moderate" Muslims...
     Reply #182 - October 30, 2010, 11:58 PM

    I didn't know this thread would become so popular...  grin12

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  • Re: Awkward questions to ask "moderate" Muslims...
     Reply #183 - October 31, 2010, 12:46 AM

    But he has banned things immediately in Islam. Why certain things and not other?

    And besides there are clear and specific moments when the ban got tighter, an incline if you may, the incident after the fact. It wasn't as if the ban was following a prepared timeline.


    Agreed.  The ban on alcohol was made IN RESPONSE TO people showing up drunk, not some foreordained timeline laid out beforehand. 

    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
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  • Re: Awkward questions to ask "moderate" Muslims...
     Reply #184 - October 31, 2010, 12:57 AM

    That would have been impressive and a definite miracle but nothing and I mean nothing spectacular for the Lord of the Universe. But the Abrahamic miracles are so tardy and unimaginative. I mean if you want real miracles, how about teleporting people to Heaven and Hell. A Day Of Judgment Teaser Tour if you will. We can extend the Buraq to carry several people at once and fly them off to the heavenly abode.

    Or punking David Copperfield at his show. I mean anything.

    So slavery and alcohol needed time, because people were clearly savages. Another question, was wine really in abundance, that liquor was a problem of this magnitude? So water was a scarce commodity but they had wine running on tap? They had wineries? Field and fields of grapes? Even if we accommodate the argument that Mecca was a major trading village I would still have a hard time believing that a large majority of the village had easy access to wine. That people were drunk all the time, every day, could never spare a moment to be sober enough to pray or correctly recite the Quran.

    But adoption being ruled out immediately is not a problem. Nor is marrying your daughter-in-law.
  • Re: Awkward questions to ask "moderate" Muslims...
     Reply #185 - October 31, 2010, 05:33 AM

    Hmmm, the qur'an was revealed over 23 years, bit by bit, when it was needed, changed rulings over time.... any idiot would and think Muhammad made it all up.... thankfully we are smarter than that.
  • Re: Awkward questions to ask "moderate" Muslims...
     Reply #186 - November 12, 2010, 08:02 AM

    Muslims dodge these kind of questions like Bush dodged the flying shoes  Roll Eyes

    I ask and tell what islame is really about to my family,their reaction is priceless,"what,really?Nah it must be something else you've read,you probably missunderstood, icon_blahblah"kind of answers.

    Especially my brother in law and mother gives me that wierd...Clint Eastwood look. Angry
  • Re: Awkward questions to ask "moderate" Muslims...
     Reply #187 - December 03, 2010, 06:02 PM

    If a snake came in your house, and you told it to go away, and a snake came back
    in, would you kill it? What if it wasn't the same snake you told to leave your house,
    and that was the other snake's first time in your house?  

    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
  • Re: Awkward questions to ask "moderate" Muslims...
     Reply #188 - December 03, 2010, 06:23 PM

    oh and i still want an answer to two questions.

    1.  By what right did mohammad receive prophethood?  Even in the
    quran 29:27 that JACOB AND ISAAC inherited prophethood in their
    lineage, NOT ISHMAEL!

    2.  Did Aisha STILL play with dolls AFTER Mo married her?

    a)  If  so, she had not reached menses and makes him a super pedo wanker.

    2.  Didn't Mo say a man needs ONE WITNESS and a woman needs TWO.
    WHO witnessed the angel talking to him?  Not Aisha, it was second hand
    information, and needed at least TWO WOMEN to witness it, and how old
    was she when he told her all about it?

    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
  • Re: Awkward questions to ask "moderate" Muslims...
     Reply #189 - December 03, 2010, 06:41 PM

    Quote
    2.  Didn't Mo say a man needs ONE WITNESS and a woman needs TWO.
    WHO witnessed the angel talking to him?  Not Aisha, it was second hand
    information, and needed at least TWO WOMEN to witness it, and how old
    was she when he told her all about it?

    witness what?


    2.  Did Aisha STILL play with dolls AFTER Mo married her?

    Sahih Muslim Bk. 008, No. 3311
    Aisha reported that Allah's Apostle married her when she was seven years old, and she was taken to his house as a bride when she was nine, and her dolls were with her;

    Sahih  Bukhari Volume 8, Bk. 73, No. 151
    I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah's Apostle used to enter home they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me.




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  • Re: Awkward questions to ask "moderate" Muslims...
     Reply #190 - December 03, 2010, 06:54 PM

    Islame,  "the angel talking to him" and giving him the quran.

    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
  • Re: Awkward questions to ask "moderate" Muslims...
     Reply #191 - December 03, 2010, 10:44 PM

    the witnessing law is used for crime/legal justice - i dont think it applies here..

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  • Re: Awkward questions to ask "moderate" Muslims...
     Reply #192 - December 05, 2010, 04:05 AM

    I think witness law applies everywhere..

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  • Re: Awkward questions to ask "moderate" Muslims...
     Reply #193 - December 05, 2010, 02:48 PM

    I also want to know WHY muslims STILL believe in Jinn, when Jinn
    were a part of pre islamic paganism?  And why so much emphasis
    is put on them (I know one of kadijah's husbands was a jinn conjourer)
    And didn't Mo's father have something to do with them, as well?

    Also, why does the quran call Iblis or Shaytan an angell in one part, and
    a jinn in another?  Huh?

    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
  • Re: Awkward questions to ask "moderate" Muslims...
     Reply #194 - December 05, 2010, 08:11 PM

    hey jinni, provide references.. Thanks

    1. Jinn were part of pagan beliefs.
    2. khadija's husband was jinn conjurer.
    3. shaytaan being jinn.

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  • Re: Awkward questions to ask "moderate" Muslims...
     Reply #195 - December 05, 2010, 08:17 PM

    "Do you have any experience with erotic use of colostomy bags?"

    fuck you
  • Re: Awkward questions to ask "moderate" Muslims...
     Reply #196 - December 05, 2010, 10:39 PM

    okay. how about this one.  When those fatwagandists were wooing me, they told me how admirable mo was cuz he married a jewish widow.  What they "left out" was that she had just witnessed her father being killed by Mo's men, and her husband horrendously tortured then killed.  If i recall, Mo tried to "talke" her that night, and she begged him to wait, so then he took her the next night.  Then I read this:


    The Muslim is not permitted to wear a mourning band, discard his adornment, or change his usual attire to express his sorrow and grief. (The wearing of black as a sign of mourning is prohibited in Islam, even in the case of a widow in mourning for her husband. (Trans.))
    However, a wife must observe a mourning period ('iddah) of four months and ten days for her deceased husband in loyalty to the sacred ties of marriage; in Islam this period is considered an extension of her previous marriage and she is not allowed to receive any new proposals of marriage during this period. Thus, she is required to refrain from adorning herself during that time both as a sign of mourning and in order to keep the thought of remarriage out of her own mind and that of her potential suitors. However, if the deceased is someone other than her husband, for example, her father, brother or son, it is haram for her to mourn for more the three days. Al-Bukhari reported concerning Umm Habeebah and Zaynab bint Jahsh, both of whom were wives of the Prophet (peace be on him), that at the time of the deaths of Umm Habeebah's father Abu Sufyan bin Harb, and Zaynab's brother, each of them perfumed herself, saying By Allah, I am not in need of perfume, but I heard Allah s Messenger (peace be on him) say, It is haram for a woman who believes in Allah and the Last Day to mourn for a deceased person for more than three nights, except for the husband (for whom the period of mourning is) four months and ten days. (Reported in the Book of "Funerals" in al-Bukhari's Sahih.)

    So this ruling doesn't apply to slaves, or just Mo was excluded from honoring this?  
    Or is it because she was a jew he just HAD TO HAVE HER?  I call that rape. What say
    ye?  


    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
  • Re: Awkward questions to ask "moderate" Muslims...
     Reply #197 - December 05, 2010, 10:43 PM

    muddy i got it from here:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genie

    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
  • Re: Awkward questions to ask "moderate" Muslims...
     Reply #198 - December 05, 2010, 11:28 PM

    If the soul is the essential ‘self’, representing our personality, emotions and consciousness, created and purposed by Allah himself, seperate from our physical form, and continues to exist beyond death to receive all the heavenly rewards we can imagine: Why does brain damage change peoples personality?

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Awkward questions to ask "moderate" Muslims...
     Reply #199 - December 05, 2010, 11:42 PM

    Allah wills brain damage to kuffar brains so that they convert to Islam and realize his greatness,as for the believers' brain damage it's willed by Him again when they start questioning his omnipotence and embarrass him! Cheesy Cheesy



    The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
                                   Thomas Paine

    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored !- Aldous Huxley
  • Re: Awkward questions to ask "moderate" Muslims...
     Reply #200 - December 06, 2010, 01:05 AM

    I have heard numerous imams saying FGM (Female Genital Mutilation) is WRONG,
    and harms the woman's body.  Then why don't they protest, in say, Egypt or other
    countries where the majority of the women are filleted to this day?

    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
  • Re: Awkward questions to ask "moderate" Muslims...
     Reply #201 - December 15, 2010, 10:47 AM

    I have spoken to many so called moderate muslims and none of them can justify hell fire , they just beat around the bush saying "well god is just , we dont know whos going but those who do will be dealt justly" blah blah , after that they lost their moderate title in my eyes .

    "its fashionable to be an ex Muslim these days"
  • Re: Awkward questions to ask "moderate" Muslims...
     Reply #202 - December 15, 2010, 11:12 AM

    I have spoken to many so called moderate muslims and none of them can justify hell fire , they just beat around the bush saying "well god is just , we dont know whos going but those who do will be dealt justly" blah blah...


    Yep.

    It's always; well only God knows who will be punished and he can do as he wills - we can't say who's going to hell etc...

    Fine! But why then does the Qur'an bang on about Hell on every page and in such clear and unequivocal terms.

    Either God means what he says or doesn't - in either case it's epic fail!
  • Re: Awkward questions to ask "moderate" Muslims...
     Reply #203 - December 15, 2010, 02:32 PM

    WHY does it say if you WANT, carve the name of allah into a bone and
    throw it at a jinn?  Are they, like women equal to or less than a dog?
    You think you are doing them a favor by throwing them a bone?  Jinn
    were created BEFORE man, and you treat them as such?

    And since they are made of smokeless fire, how the hell are they gonna
    EAT this bone?   Cheesy

    And one mentions jinns as shaytans.  But what about the "believers"?  
    when they are mentioned, IF AT ALL, they are not equal to or part of
    ummah?

    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
  • Re: Awkward questions to ask "moderate" Muslims...
     Reply #204 - January 04, 2011, 03:28 PM

    I can't be arsed to read every post in this thread to see if my awkward questions have already been presented or not.

    How about having a document somewhere with a compilation that is only editable by mods?

    I don't come here any more due to unfair moderation.
    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=30785
  • Re: Awkward questions to ask "moderate" Muslims...
     Reply #205 - January 04, 2011, 03:32 PM

    Good idea, just a list of awkward questions in the thread is all we need to be pinned.. that way if any apostate undergoes such a discussion, and it always happens, then he has library store of them here

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  • Re: Awkward questions to ask "moderate" Muslims...
     Reply #206 - January 10, 2011, 09:35 PM

    Here is a list of all questions... You can join in and help to identify all the same questions, or maybe make a "best of" since these questions are the seeds of doubt that made most of us nonbelievers and will make most rationally inclined believers think twice... The list needs some work but I compiled it in one place so we can continue working on it...

    Hupla:

    1. Why did Allah send so many prophets to the Jews?

    2. What is so special about Isa that he is born of a virgin, saved by Allah on the crucifix and comes back on Judgement day?

    3. If Allah sent prophets to all people - did he reveal his message in Arabic or in a local language?

    4. Do you believe the Hadith and Sira accurately depict Muhammad?

    5. If you do not - are you angry with the people who have depicted him as a murderer/rapist etc.?

    6. Are those people Muslims?

    7. If girls in Arabia matured early (which is why Muhammad could have sex with Aisha) - how old did the boys of the Banu Qurayza to be executed?  

    8. What percentage of a drink must consist of alcohol for it to be considered "alcohol"?
    Since any liquid containing sugar (orange juice, coca-cola) breaks down some of the sugar into alcohol in the presence of oxygen, at what point does it become haram?

    Shahid Raza:

    1.   Do you think it is ok for a 50 year old man to marry and have sex with a 9 year old girl?

    2. Do you acknowledge that Muhammad ordered adulterers to be stoned to death?

    3. Do you think it is right to stone people to death?

    4.   Do you want to see Islamic law eventually in America?  If not, then why not?

    5.    What is your position on religious profiling?  Do you denounce Saudi Arabia for profiling non-Muslims and preventing them from traveling to Mecca?

    6.    Why do you refuse to condemn the killing of Americans in uniform?

    7.    Do you believe that it is wrong for Muslims to force members of another religion to pay money to Islam in the form of a jizya tax?

    8.    Are non-Muslims who reject Muhammad and resist Islamic rule considered to be "innocent persons" in Islam?

    9.    Do you believe women should have the same rights as men?  Should Muslim women be free to marry whomever they choose and wear what they want?

    10.    Hamas has deliberately murdered hundreds of Israeli civilians, including children, and left hundreds more with physical disability, mental impairment (from brain damage) and chronic pain.  They have also killed Americans.  Do you condemn Hamas as a terrorist organization?

    11.    Do you believe in equal rights for all religions?  Should religious minorities be as free to promote their faith in Muslim countries as CAIR and other Muslims do here in the West?

    12.    Do you believe that the punishment for adultery should be death?  If not, then why not?

    13.    Why have you refused to condemn the Islamic Republic of Sudan for the deaths of over 200,000 Africans in the name of racial cleansing and Jihad?  Would you be just as apathetic if this were a non-Muslim government killing Muslims instead?

    14. Do you now believe that your non-Muslim family are destined to be burned in hell forever? (question for converts)

    15. Muslims are allowed to freely preach and proselytise Islam in non-Muslim Western countries.  Even in Hindu majority India, Zakir Naik operates a huge Islamic dawah organisation and TV channel.

    16. Can you name me ONE Muslim majority country in which non-Muslims can preach their religion (or lack of)?  Can you name me ONE Muslim majority country in which a person like Richard Dawkins would be allowed to freely operate without any fear of repercussions by the public or state?

    17. Do you believe that the Quran is the word of God?  If so then how do you explain this verse:

    6:104 Proofs have come unto you from your Lord, so whoso seeth, it is for his own good, and whoso is blind is blind to his own hurt. And I am not a keeper over you.

    or this verse...

    6:114 Shall I seek other than Allah for judge, when He it is Who hath revealed unto you (this) Scripture, fully explained ? Those unto whom We gave the Scripture (aforetime) know that it is revealed from thy Lord in truth. So be not thou (O Muhammad) of the waverers.

    or this verse...

    37:164 There is not one of us but hath his known position.37:165 Lo! we, even we are they who set the ranks,

    or this verse...

    51:50 Therefor flee unto Allah; lo! I am a plain warner unto you from him.

    or this verse...

    84:16 Oh, I swear by the afterglow of sunset


    PeruvianSkies:

    1. Why did god give women a pointless hymen and never explain that it is NOT a good indicator for virginity? Does he have any idea how many women have suffered needlessly because they didn't bleed on their wedding night? He had enough space in the Quran to tell guests not to linger too long in Mo's house yet he couldn't spare women pointless suffering?

    2. 65:4, 4:34, 4:43, slavery, encouraging first cousin marriage but sees a problem with marrying someone who was milk-fed by the same woman as you when babies (where's the logic in that?!!!), telling women a hijab will protect them when it does the exact opposite, etc, etc.

    Johnmuslim:

    1. Why would a God who doesn't need humans create them to worship him ("and we haven't created humans except to worship us")?

    2. What's the point of hell, and if God is merciful, why is it beyond even the worst of human evil?

    3. Why does God test us, is he not all knowing?

    4. What was the need of the bloodshed and violence from Muhammad, why couldn't Allah do it himself, or why couldn't Muhammad have acted in the way Jesus acted?

    IsLame

    1. Do you believe in the shariah law?  99% will say yes.  Then you can serve them a dish of the very best stoning for adultery verses, killing gays & apostates..

    2. Do you believe in ghosts (djinn)?

    3. How do you know you are not following a myth, like you believe everyone else is doing?

    4. Why did god create us imperfect, and then punish us for eternity for these imperfections?

    5. Why did he provide us with a brain, yet no proof?

    6. Why are no exotic passion fruits, kiwi fruits or pineapples available in heaven,  only 7th Century Arab fruits are mentioned as being available there?  

    Did Allah (or the desert dweller  )not know about the rest of the world?


    7. Why is there not a single verse in the Quran condeming rape? 

    or tell us infant marriage was wrong, or something medically useful like a cure for cancer or simple like telling us to boil water to kill of harmful bacteria.  

    Yet it finds it necessary to tell us how to clean our arse with sand & grit when water is not available, and to quote Baal, more usefully 17 ways of how boiling water is used for torture by Allah.  

    8. Oh yes, and why did the prophet have sex with his slave out of wedlock, whilst he was still married to another women?

    9. Why is Allah invisible?

    10. Also were Eskimos at the poles supposed to do during the month of Ramadhan where the sun rises and then sets after six months - starve to death?

    11. "If the Quran was the final message for mankind, then why was alcohol only banned in the hadith?"

    BlackDog

    1. Do you believe anybody who doesn't convert to Islam has chosen the right religion? Quote the No other religion than Islam will be accepted of you.

    2. Why did Mohammed say Arabs are the best of people? What proof does he have for this? How can he say this when the earliest converts came from Etopia and Persia?

    3. Why do we speak arabic in Heaven? How is it possible that a langauge that has evolved from Aramic is the final language for all of mankind, a language which btw has not spread the way English has or French or Latin. And is it classical arabic? Is it the Quraish accent?

    4. How did Mohammed finanace the Ummah during Medina?

    Billy:

    1. Do you believe in your right to practise Islam in non Muslim countries? If so, why do you support the Islamic injunction to kill those who exercise freedom of conscience by leaving Islam?

    2. Do you believe in human rights and the rights of all prisoners in combat situations to be respected, for example, in Guantanamo Bay? How do you square these principles with the mass killings of the Jewish tribe of Banu Qurayza by Prophet Muhammad?

    3. Do you believe in equality of all people, regardless of their religious belief? After all, it is the central principle that guarantees your rights in a non Muslim society like Britain or America. If you do believe in equality of all people, how do you square this with the Islamic principle that non Muslims, or kuffars, are innately inferior to Muslims?

    4. In the 21st Century, why is it acceptable for religious beliefs that debase women like polygamy to be practised? Shouldn't such practises be excised from Islam, and whatever sources they gain their legitimacy from, be disowned?

    5. Why does Allah demand puritanism and chastity in this life, and yet promise sexual licentiousness in heaven? Why is that acceptable in heaven, and not acceptable on earth?

    6. If the principle is that Islam renders things that are sinful on earth into acceptable practises in heaven, does that mean that other acts which are sins on earth are acceptable in heaven?

    7. Why would Allah promise a heaven in which supposed sin is acceptable?

    8. Why did the prophet Muhammad require a donkey to ascend to heaven? Why not just ascend there like everyone else?

    9. Why does Islam support slavery?
    10. If Islamic veils for women are deemed by Islamic logic nessecary to prevent a woman arousing lust in a man, why are men also not enjoined to wear a burqa to prevent women and homosexuals from lusting after them?

    11. Why are Muslim men permitted by Islam to marry a non Muslim woman provided she submits to Islam, but a Muslim woman is not permitted to marry a non Muslim man? How do you square this with principles of universal gender equality, especially in a society like Britain?

    12. Why does Islam consider all cultural, philosophical, social and scientific contributions to humanity made by non Muslim individuals in non Islamic societies, from the ruminations of Buddha and Confucious, to the science of Newton and Einstein, to be manifestly jahil?

    13. Surely these discoveries and achievments render preposterous the idea that non Muslim societies exist in a state of barbarism, a barbarism that only Islam can alleviate?

    14. Is Muhammad uswa hasana, al Insan al-Kamil, the perfect human for eternity, the ideal Muslim?

    15. Should Muslims seek to emulate him? If so, would you seek to make it acceptable for 50 year old men to marry female children under the age of ten? Would you believe it acceptable to follow his rules on the acceptability of slavery? Do you believe it was wrong to abolish slavery, at least for Muslims? Also, do you believe that killing captives, regardless of their individual guilt, is acceptable? In other words, do you believe inflicting violence and death on innocent people, following the Prophet Muhammad's treatment of amongst others the Banu Qurayza, following the principles of collective punishment, part of the attributes of an ideal Muslim? Does an ideal Muslim practise and consider violent collective punishment acceptable?

    16. If societies like Britain have organised themselves in a manner that is consensual, and in such a way to try to maximise equality of all people, in which individuals have equal opportunities for success, in which all people are equal in law, in which men and women are equal, in which there is no such thing as a 'kuffar', in which there is freedom of conscience and religion, in which these principles have been hard fought for and hard won, and liberal, secular democracy is the consensual culture - why do many Muslims carry out dawah, or dream of a future in which Islam influences the public domain outside of the confines of personal belief? Isn't this crass, stupid and imperialistic? Why does Islam so often have an impulse to impose itself on non Muslim societies, in the belief that it is performing a favour and what is right, in such a way that will curtail the principles and freedoms that those societies have as their aspiration and practise?

    17. Why is the Lord of the Universe, the omnipotent creator of all that exists, the eternal, immutable author of existence, unable to make his chosen believers anything more than a minority amongst kuffars on planet Earth?

    18. And what was Allah doing for the billions of years before humankind existed, and then developed reading and writing and settled organised society, up until he decided to send his message to a man in the desert in a language spoken by a tiny, marginal group of humanity?

    19. Why doesn't Allah give his ummah superpowers, like Jedi mind-control tricks, in order to make the kuffar submit to Islam?

    Saima

    1. So there are all these "miracles" that have been in the Qur'an long before modern scientists found out about them? Wow! So, while everyone else in the world knew absolutely nothing about the big bang and position of the sun and embryology and talking ants the Muslim world was keeping all this information secret?? How selfish!

    Iblis:

    1. Why is there not a single verse in the Quran condeming rape?

    taraC

    1. Why are men allowed to have sex with slave girls ?

    2. Why are women supposed to be obediant to their husbands?
    Why does a woman need permission from her husband for everything?

    3. Why is Islam against homosexuality? Doesn't Allah know that it's not a choice?

    4. Why will all the non-muslims go to hell forever but even the worst of muslims will eventually go to Paradise after doing their time in hell?
    5. How can someone who had 9 wives (who were always fighting and jealous of each other) worthy of prophethood? How can someone be the best human being and yet treat women like sexual objects?

    6. Why is masterbation a sin? who is it harming really?

    Iraqi Atheist



    1. Did Allah send prophets to the Aztecs? what about ancient China? what about anywhere outside the Middle East? and if he did, why is it never mentioned in the Quran or the Hadith?

    2. Why was Mohammed the last prophet? why not keep sending prophets?

    3. Why doesn't Allah show us some miracles?

    4. Why does Allah want to test us?

    5. If Allah is omniscient, that means he knows whether anyone of us will end up in heaven or hell. If that is so, how can we really have a choice? how can we "think of" or "choose" something that is not already pre-known by God?

    6. Why hasn't been any case of an amputated limb regenerating in recorded history?

    7. Why is music Haram?

    8. Why is chess Haram?

    9. Why is fucking Haram? (specially when we have contraceptives)

    10. Now that we have DNA parental identification, why can't women practice polygamy?

    11. Why does Allah need us to do complicated rituals? can't he just measure the faith in our hearts?

    12. Why are there congenital deformities? didn't Allah say is the Quran "we created you in the best form"?

    13. Why are their famines?

    14. Why are there natural disasters?

    15. Why does Allah allow Satan to exist?

    16, How is Mohammed's military conquests different from Israel's occupation of Palestine?

    17. Why is a woman's testimony in court equal to half of the man's testimony?

    RIBS


    1. Why god created the penis with a prepuce, then order us to cut it off, He could not do it himself, was he squeemish? Was it a design error? Why animals get to keep it, and men have to cut it off?

    canex

    1. Why do we have vestigial organs ? (wisdom teeth, foreskin, male nipple, body hair in places we are supposed to trim)

    2. why do we have vestigial genes?

    3. why are the human eyes so badly designed that a huge portion of the global population has to wear glasses ? (pretty shitty designed no?)

    4. if santa clause cant fly with a dozen reindeer how the hell can MO fly on a horsie and "visit" the heavens   ?

    Omaar Khayaam

    1.  Am I absolutely certain that Islam is true? Bearing in my that there are hundreds of religions from which to choose. What criterion am I using to make that judgement? What if that criterion is empty and not legitimate?

    2. Is it because I believe in God that I follow Islam, or is it because I trust Muhammad? If it's the latter, how do I know?

    Ba

    1. Did Allah fail as a parent to teach Iblis manners?

    2. Did Allah, himself fail to save Satan going the wrong path?

    3. Even after Satan SAW and HAD evidence of Allahs greatness, why did he reject it?

    Shirdon

    1. Why didn't Allah protect all the other religious texts that came before the quran?

    2. Why did Allah wait until 570 AD to send a universal messenger for the ummah??

    3. Why is that we cannot find a single record of monotheism before the late bronze age?

    4. Why didn't Allah's message ever reach the Ancient Americas??

    5. Do you believe that a poor Christian, Sub-Saharan African youngster who dies at the age 18 because of malaria will spent eternally in hell??

    6. Why does the Quran contain Duas??

    7. Who is Allah making dua to?

    8. Do you believe in Black magic??

    9. Why is Allah's message constantly changing e.g:-  Not banning Alcohol on all the other ummahs that came before the prophet Mohammed.

    10. In heaven apparently we will never think about "immoral" stuff, feel sorrow, jealousy, sadness, pain, boredom or shyness. Don't you think that even though these feelings are not exactly fun, they are part of what makes us human and without these basic emotions that make us reflect onto ourselves and understand ourselves and others better, we really are not that different from most other animals.

    11. The quran often criticizes idolaters because they are merely following the religion of their parents, how is that different from 99% of muslims who follow islam because their parents were Muslims?



    Just look at the sun and the moon, rotating around the earth perfectly! Out of all the never ending space in the universe, the sun and moon ended up close to earth rotating around it perfectly.!!

  • Re: Awkward questions to ask "moderate" Muslims...
     Reply #207 - January 10, 2011, 09:36 PM

    PART TWO

    ras111

    1. Why does the quran say that everything was made in pairs when their are organisms that reproduce asexually?

    Iggy

    1. Why does Allah have so many human characteristics? Why is he angry, jealous, and controlling? I mean, how can he let tiny and insignificant humans (whom he created and planned out btw) bother him so much? Doesn't he plan everything anyways? Doesn't he know what's going to happen? If so, why does he express anger towards his own creations?

    2. Why is Allah both passive and aggressive? DAMMIT, DO WE HAVE FREE WILL OR NOT? Why does he play this cruel game of being the powerful omniscient creator proclaiming that everything was his plan all along yet still pinning responsibility on us?

    Hassan

    1. What is the benefit of Allah adding the underlined bit in 2:196:

    "...fast three days during the hajj and seven days on return - making ten days in all..."

    Why does Allah need to use the limited and precious space in his last divine revelation to mankind for all time to tell us that:

    7 + 3 = 10

    Bardhi_i_zi


    1.   why does a nonarabic muslim have to pray to the lord in a foreign language he doesn't understand? Is god incapable understanding other languages?

    2. why does someone even need to speak, when even thoughts would be sufficient?

    3. how can you claim that idolatry is forbidden when the entire muslim world turns towards a Stone in Saudi Arabia to pray, and in order to go in heaven they have to visit the place, and make circles around it. After that they have to throw stones at some idols representing evil?

    4. why do we have an appendix if god is the creator and evolution is a lie? Did god just screw up while designing adam?

    5. Why did god put the forbidden fruit in the garden of Eden, knowing that the humans will eventually try it, since he knows everything? if so, how can humans be sinful if god planned this thing from the beginning and made them so?

    6. how come your god allowed alcohol in the begining, telling people to just come sober in the mosque, later changed his mind? if he is omnipotent, omniscient he would not change his mind.

    7. you claim that angels do not have "free will" as humans do, hence they are almost robotic servants of god. How come that Satan could rebel against god ? and why the hell would god need helpers if he is omnipotent.

    8. how can god punish you for something he himself wrote, so you are predetermined to fail or win.  Is he a psychopath or not omniscient?

    9. how can you call life "a test" if the results are already known?

    10. You say that we live in order so god can justify his verdict by facts. Does this mean that god needs to justify himself before his tiny creations?  

    11. You claim that Islam is against idols. Why do you have to turn to the black stone in order for your prayers to be valid? Is god able to receive your prayers only if they are directed on one particular way and one particular language? if yes, it means your god is not omnipotent."

    13. How come god first allowed alcohol, and forbid only going drunk to the mosque and then a few years later prohibited it completely by saying that alcohol and gambling are works of the devil. Did Allah not know this a few years back?"

    14. What happens to the souls of those that had no contact with Islam what-so-ever, meaning that they don't (didn't) know that it even exists?

    Morpheus

    1. theres this hadith that says "Whoever changes his religion, kill him". does that go for converts to islam as well then??

    UnsichtbarerGeist


    1. Some people are handicapped, some were born into an islamic community and some in an nonislamic country. If god wants to test us - why doesn't he provide equal testing conditions?

    2. Is God just?

    serrated_colon

    1. Why doesn't God heal amputees(not my question, but gotta mention it)?

    2. Why in the fuck is the Qur'an revealed in only one language if it is for all people of Muhammad's ummah? Surely if the message is universal it would be revealed in multiple languages to make translation easier? An all-knowing god must understand this...

    3. Why is Muhammad the last prophet? Does Allah not understand that more prophets who perform mircacles is a good way to make people believe in him?

    mighty_cats

    1. Did the adam and eve story literally take place?

    2. Do you believe in Magic, yes or no?

    olweasel

    1. Do you believe in the Buraq?

    Mixu Paatelainen

    1. And why wasn't the Qur'an revealed in a language that is easier to understand than Arabic (people are always saying that to truly understand the Qur'an, you have to read it in the original arabic), and why did Allah not make the Qur'an easier to understand for your lay person, so you wouldn't need scholars to explain the meaning to you?

    shoaib

    1. Do you believe god is omnipotent?
     If he is omnipotent can he make stone which he can't lift?

     2. Do you believe god is merciful?
    If he is merciful why will he torture non believers forever in hell?

    3. why the punishment of apostasy is death in islam?

    4. why does quran promote wife beating?

    5. why does islam allow sex with slaves?

    6. why does the quran allow slavery?

    7. why does islam allow polygyny? isn't it injustice towards women since they are very possessive about their husbands?

    8. why did islam allow mut'a (temporary marriage)

    9. why were people of banu Quraiza brutally killed?

    10. why is music prohibited?

    11. why are pictures haraam?

    12. why does one have to grow beard if he wants to be true muslim?

    13. why does muslim believe that uncovering ankle is a necessary part of a male muslim's dress?

    14. Dogs are man's best friend? why does islam prohibit dogs?

    mufa9a

    1. why is it forbidden to question too much ? it is said that questioning will make you loose your faith .
    so does God prefer blind faith over critical thinking ? why do we have brains?

    sAllah Eldream

    1. Who carries out the consequences of the evil eye?
    If there is such a thing as hasad ( e.g. see 133:5), in which the mere act of envy by one person manifests in a physical manner and affects someone else without them ever knowing, then how does this process take place?

    2. Does god sit there and watch for envious thoughts and then turns towards the person they're about, and strikes them with whatever damage he likes? Forget that, did god decide while creating everything that such a mechanism is necessary for the test of life? That one person can simply be envious of some innocent bystander, but that it will actually harm them because that's the way god rolls.

    A clever muslim might say; it's so we can run to god for protection. Indeed, who better to run to for protection than that which carries out the harm and damage against you?

    Eliphaz

    1. What if jinns created the Qur'an?"

    GodIsNotGreat

    1. Which is more immoral and why: someone having sex with their girlfriend, or someone having sex with their slave?

    Ishina

    1. Who would you rather have marry your daughter or son: A Muslim extremist or a Non-Muslim?

    2. If the soul is the essential ‘self’, representing our personality, emotions and consciousness, created and purposed by Allah himself, seperate from our physical form, and continues to exist beyond death to receive all the heavenly rewards we can imagine: Why does brain damage change peoples personality?

    Mount A Bison

    1. Why did eleven wives spread their legs for Mo (PBUH) to discharge his holy seed when the Quran sets an upper limit of only four wives per man?

    2. If the Islamic defence of polygamy rests on the notion that it affords women a romantic outlet in times of war that see a dearth of eligible men, quite why is it that a man should not marry five women instead of an upper limit of four if the lack of men is so dire and if the situation demands it in order to prevent the proliferation of lonely hearts? Does it follow also from this premise that in geographical regions where men vastly outnumber women as is famously the case in China that a woman should be given the license to bed more than a single husband or is bed hopping a phallocentric enterprise??

    Jinn and Tonic

    1. If a snake came in your house, and you told it to go away, and a snake came back
    in, would you kill it? What if it wasn't the same snake you told to leave your house,
    and that was the other snake's first time in your house?  
    2.   By what right did mohammad receive prophethood?  Even in the
    quran 29:27 that JACOB AND ISAAC inherited prophethood in their
    lineage, NOT ISHMAEL!

    3.  Did Aisha STILL play with dolls AFTER Mo married her?

    a)  If  so, she had not reached menses and makes him a super pedo wanker.

    4.  Didn't Mo say a man needs ONE WITNESS and a woman needs TWO.
    WHO witnessed the angel talking to him?  Not Aisha, it was second hand
    information, and needed at least TWO WOMEN to witness it, and how old
    was she when he told her all about it?

    5. I also want to know WHY muslims STILL believe in Jinn, when Jinn
    were a part of pre islamic paganism?  And why so much emphasis
    is put on them (I know one of kadijah's husbands was a jinn conjourer)
    And didn't Mo's father have something to do with them, as well?

    6. Also, why does the quran call Iblis or Shaytan an angell in one part, and
    a jinn in another?  

    7. I have heard numerous imams saying FGM (Female Genital Mutilation) is WRONG,
    and harms the woman's body.  Then why don't they protest, in say, Egypt or other
    countries where the majority of the women are filleted to this day?

    8. WHY does it say if you WANT, carve the name of allah into a bone and
    throw it at a jinn?  Are they, like women equal to or less than a dog?
    You think you are doing them a favor by throwing them a bone?  Jinn
    were created BEFORE man, and you treat them as such?

    And since they are made of smokeless fire, how the hell are they gonna
    EAT this bone?    

    9. And one mentions jinns as shaytans.  But what about the "believers"?  
    when they are mentioned, IF AT ALL, they are not equal to or part of
    ummah?

    ateapotist

    1. The evidence for evolution seems compelling to me.  Can I take the whole 'Adam-and-Eve' story metaphorically?

    2. The miracles of the prophets seem highly implausible.  Can I assume they were just myths or dreams passed on from generation to generation?

    3. I do not like many things that the Prophet Muhammad did, like the sex with 9 year old Aisha, and the Banu Qurayza massacre.  Can we just see Muhammad as merely man of his time and not take him as the 'perfect role model' for all humanity for all time?

    4. Sharia punishments like stoning to death, and chopping off limbs, etc, seem barbaric.  Do they have to be followed even in the 21st century?

    5. To what extent should Muslims living in the West obey the law of the land?  What if the law (like compulsory car insurance) requires doing something haram?

    6. Why aren't Muslims allowed to think critically and ask awkward questions about their faith?

    belladonnasix

    1. If Islam is so obviously the best religion in the world, why does it have to be enforced onto people by fear?

    2. If Islam is such a miraculously true faith then why do we condemn questioning it?

    3. Why kill apostates if they are going to burn in hell anyway?

    4. If by some cause the female population heavily decreases should women be allowed to marry 4 men?

    5. Why doesnt God send another prophet to help clarify all the confusion about Islam?

    Just look at the sun and the moon, rotating around the earth perfectly! Out of all the never ending space in the universe, the sun and moon ended up close to earth rotating around it perfectly.!!

  • Re: Awkward questions to ask "moderate" Muslims...
     Reply #208 - January 10, 2011, 09:45 PM

    Thanks for that 001_wub

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Awkward questions to ask "moderate" Muslims...
     Reply #209 - January 10, 2011, 09:51 PM

    You're awesome dance

    19:46   <zizo>: hugs could pimp u into sex

    Quote from: yeezevee
    well I am neither ex-Muslim nor absolute 100% Non-Muslim.. I am fucking Zebra

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