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  • Turkish teenager buried alive because friendship with boys shamed family
     OP - February 05, 2010, 12:56 PM
    Yet another 'honor' killing in Turkish Kurdistan:

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    The father and grandfather of a Turkish teenager are to face trial for burying her alive because they were concerned that her friendship with boys had brought dishonour on their family.

    Although honour killings are not infrequent in Turkey, the especially gruesome manner of Medine Memi?s death has shocked the nation.

    A coroner said that Medine had been discovered bound and lifeless in sitting position in a 2m hole dug beneath a chicken coop outside the family?s house in the town of Kahta in Southeastern Turkey, 40 days after she had disappeared. The hole had been cemented over.

    According to a post-mortem examination the large amount of soil in her lungs and stomach showed that she had been buried while conscious and suffered a slow and agonising death.


    More here: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article7015758.ece

     :'(   finmad

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  • Re: Turkish teenager buried alive because friendship with boys shamed family
     Reply #1 - February 05, 2010, 12:58 PM
    That's awful.   I mean islamic punishments are bad enough, but this is even worse.
    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Turkish teenager buried alive because friendship with boys shamed family
     Reply #2 - February 05, 2010, 01:56 PM
    Yeah, most of these types of killings are done by strangulation or a bullet to the head but in this case they purposefully made sure the poor girl would suffer a long, drawn out death.

    F**kin' sadists!
    Atheism is a non-prophet organization.

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  • Re: Turkish teenager buried alive because friendship with boys shamed family
     Reply #3 - February 05, 2010, 02:08 PM
    Are some people born murderes and sadistic? Or more inclined to that kind of behaviour and action.
  • Turkish girl, 16, buried alive for talking to boys
     Reply #4 - February 09, 2010, 04:34 PM
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/feb/04/girl-buried-alive-turkey

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    Turkish police have recovered the body of a 16-year-old girl they say was buried alive by relatives in an "honour" killing carried out as punishment for talking to boys.

    The girl, who has been identified only by the initials MM, was found in a sitting position with her hands tied, in a two-metre hole dug under a chicken pen outside her home in Kahta, in the south-eastern province of Adiyaman.

    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: Turkish teenager buried alive because friendship with boys shamed family
     Reply #5 - February 09, 2010, 04:36 PM
    Merged threads. 
    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Turkish teenager buried alive because friendship with boys shamed family
     Reply #6 - February 09, 2010, 04:38 PM
    Quote from: BlackDog on February 05, 2010, 02:08 PM
    Are some people born murderes and sadistic? Or more inclined to that kind of behaviour and action.


    Yes, and certain cultural and religious factors encourage those traits to come out in full force.
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: Turkish teenager buried alive because friendship with boys shamed family
     Reply #7 - February 09, 2010, 04:50 PM
    This is pissing me off  finmad
    I can't even imagine Bin Laden or Anjem Chouldry(sp?) doing this to their daughters, what kind of people are these? Dishonor my ass, can't the father at least remember the first time she said 'Papa' or something? Don't these people have any emotions whatsoever?

    And Muslims claim religion makes you a more moral person. Yeah right, lick my balls.  finmad
    "In every time and culture there are pressures to conform to the prevailing prejudices. But there are also, in every place and epoch, those who value the truth; who record the evidence faithfully. Future generations are in their debt." -Carl Sagan

  • Re: Turkish teenager buried alive because friendship with boys shamed family
     Reply #8 - February 15, 2010, 11:04 PM
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    Are some people born murderes and sadistic? Or more inclined to that kind of behaviour and action.


    Yes. And the Religion of Peace gives that extra push.
  • Re: Turkish teenager buried alive because friendship with boys shamed family
     Reply #9 - February 16, 2010, 12:34 AM
    She wasn't even caught with another guy. She simply had a few male friends.

    If we try to trace the origin of their decision to torture and murder their daughter we end up with this absurd chain:

    "Just think if my daughter was to have another guy. That would be bad. Why would that be bad? Because she might get pregnant and have a child out of wedlock. Why would that be bad? Because society would scorn our family. Why would they scorn our family? Because it would show that we are not a responsible family. What is not responsible about our daughter having a child out of wedlock? Because marriage ensures a stable family environment and the support of the families in the bringing up of the children. I guess that's pretty important, for the love of the child. So let's ensure our love for any possible children that my daughter would produce. Actually, I know that my daughter has a few male friends. I've got no reason to believe she is dating one of them, but the chance that she is is higher since she has more male friends than most girls. That means the chance of my daughter producing a child and not bringing up the child properly is slightly increased. How shall I go about minimizing that risk? I know, be on the safe side and bury her alive."

    Ofcourse!!!  015
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  • Re: Turkish teenager buried alive because friendship with boys shamed family
     Reply #10 - February 16, 2010, 09:39 AM
    Actually I'm not sure such a father would think as far as "baby out of wedlock". In such environments, the very fact that the girl might lose her virginity before marriage is the ultimate dishonour.
    He's no friend to the friendless
    And he's the mother of grief
    There's only sorrow for tomorrow
    Surely life is too brief
  • Re: Turkish teenager buried alive because friendship with boys shamed family
     Reply #11 - February 16, 2010, 01:27 PM
    Quote from: Infidel on February 09, 2010, 04:50 PM
    This is pissing me off  finmad
    I can't even imagine Bin Laden or Anjem Chouldry(sp?) doing this to their daughters, what kind of people are these? Dishonor my ass, can't the father at least remember the first time she said 'Papa' or something? Don't these people have any emotions whatsoever?

    And Muslims claim religion makes you a more moral person. Yeah right, lick my balls.  finmad


    I have no words - so I'll just quote what Infidel said above ^
  • Re: Turkish teenager buried alive because friendship with boys shamed family
     Reply #12 - February 16, 2010, 01:43 PM
    Quote from: Naerys on February 16, 2010, 09:39 AM
    Actually I'm not sure such a father would think as far as "baby out of wedlock". In such environments, the very fact that the girl might lose her virginity before marriage is the ultimate dishonour.


    Yes, but I want to give them *some* credit to their intelligence. Their mind is surely not so simple and stupid.

    "Uh. Lose virginity bad. Lose virginity must die!"

    That's ALL they think?
    The unlived life is not worth examining.
  • Re: Turkish teenager buried alive because friendship with boys shamed family
     Reply #13 - February 16, 2010, 01:45 PM
    Quote from: J4m3z on February 16, 2010, 01:43 PM
    Yes, but I want to give them *some* credit to their intelligence. Their mind is surely not so simple and stupid.

    "Uh. Lose virginity bad. Lose virginity must die!"

    That's ALL they think?


    Some of the more reformed might think lose virginity stitch up vagina again.
  • Re: Turkish teenager buried alive because friendship with boys shamed family
     Reply #14 - February 16, 2010, 01:49 PM
    So what about the men in this story? What I want to do is understand their psychology, not the psychology of the more reformed Muslims - they're easy enough - but these lunatics who kill their daughters for not even reasons... I probably wouldn't be so bugged if it was the odd lunatic now and again, but honour killings have earned a bit of a reputation for itself, and trying to explain them in terms of "honour" and "dishonour" is no explanation at all. What is honour? Why is it valued so much?
    The unlived life is not worth examining.
  • Re: Turkish teenager buried alive because friendship with boys shamed family
     Reply #15 - February 16, 2010, 02:08 PM
    Quote from: J4m3z on February 16, 2010, 01:49 PM
    So what about the men in this story? What I want to do is understand their psychology, not the psychology of the more reformed Muslims - they're easy enough - but these lunatics who kill their daughters for not even reasons... I probably wouldn't be so bugged if it was the odd lunatic now and again, but honour killings have earned a bit of a reputation for itself, and trying to explain them in terms of "honour" and "dishonour" is no explanation at all. What is honour? Why is it valued so much?


    Honour means different things to different people.

    Honour of Temple Knight

    Honour of WW2 British Soldier.

    Honour of the Reich.

  • Re: Turkish teenager buried alive because friendship with boys shamed family
     Reply #16 - February 16, 2010, 02:12 PM
    Quote from: J4m3z on February 16, 2010, 01:49 PM
    What is honour?


    I'm pretty sure it's the limey version of "honor"
    fuck you
  • Re: Turkish teenager buried alive because friendship with boys shamed family
     Reply #17 - February 16, 2010, 02:25 PM
    Ahahaha, you Yanks with a w stole and bastardised our language, the clue is in the name "English", not "American".

    Learn to spell.
    I hear what you're saying. You're spinning my head around.
  • Re: Turkish teenager buried alive because friendship with boys shamed family
     Reply #18 - February 16, 2010, 02:35 PM
     Cheesy
  • Re: Turkish teenager buried alive because friendship with boys shamed family
     Reply #19 - February 16, 2010, 02:39 PM
    Quote from: Q-Man on February 16, 2010, 02:12 PM
    I'm pretty sure it's the limey version of "honor"


    Actually, it's a family's reputation within the community and what the community thinks of them.  At least in this situation that's what 'honor' means, no matter how you bloody well spell it.

    As for Americans stealing and bastardizing English, we just made it better and more efficiant without all those extra 'a's and 'u's!   Wink
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  • Re: Turkish teenager buried alive because friendship with boys shamed family
     Reply #20 - February 16, 2010, 02:40 PM
    this books for you Q  Wink

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  • Re: Turkish teenager buried alive because friendship with boys shamed family
     Reply #21 - February 16, 2010, 02:42 PM
    Quote from: Nour on February 16, 2010, 02:39 PM


    As for Americans stealing and bastardizing English, we just made it better and more efficiant without all those extra 'a's and 'u's!   Wink


    Then call it American, but don't try to tar our beautiful language by association. aloofandbored0
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  • Re: Turkish teenager buried alive because friendship with boys shamed family
     Reply #22 - February 16, 2010, 02:47 PM
    Quote from: Johnmuslim on February 16, 2010, 02:25 PM
    Ahahaha, you Yanks with a w stole and perfected our language, the clue is in the name "English", not "American".

    I should learn to spell.


    There, fixed it for ya. Of course, we Yanks gotta fix a lot of things for you limeys from 1776 onwards.

    See, we figured that since "honour" and "colour" and other words originally from Norman French are no longer pronounced in the French fashion, we would drop the "u", as it doesn't make much sense given standard pronunciation rules in English. You guys are just holdin onto the past. Like an old lady still usin Jean Nate and watching Lawrence Welk reruns on PBS.

    Quote from: Nour on February 16, 2010, 02:39 PM
    As for Americans stealing and bastardizing English, we just made it better and more efficiant without all those extra 'a's and 'u's!   Wink


    QFFT!
    fuck you
  • Re: Turkish teenager buried alive because friendship with boys shamed family
     Reply #23 - February 16, 2010, 02:53 PM


  • Re: Turkish teenager buried alive because friendship with boys shamed family
     Reply #24 - February 16, 2010, 02:59 PM
    Quote from: Q-Man on February 16, 2010, 02:47 PM
    There, fixed it for ya. Of course, we Yanks gotta fix a lot of things for you limeys from 1776 onwards.

    See, we figured that since "honour" and "colour" and other words originally from Norman French are no longer pronounced in the French fashion, we would drop the "u", as it doesn't make much sense given standard pronunciation rules in English.

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  • Re: Turkish teenager buried alive because friendship with boys shamed family
     Reply #25 - February 16, 2010, 03:02 PM
    Do American's have their own dictionary or do they use the same English dictionaries as us?
    The unlived life is not worth examining.
  • Re: Turkish teenager buried alive because friendship with boys shamed family
     Reply #26 - February 16, 2010, 03:11 PM
    here it is; this ones for the advanced learners..

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  • Re: Turkish teenager buried alive because friendship with boys shamed family
     Reply #27 - February 16, 2010, 03:13 PM
    Quote from: IsLame on February 16, 2010, 02:59 PM
    ?


    Quoted For Fuckin Truth

    Quote from: J4m3z on February 16, 2010, 03:02 PM
    Do American's have their own dictionary or do they use the same English dictionaries as us?


    Yes, we have our own-- Merriam-Webster's Unabridged is considered the standard here, although the OED is also considered an authoritative source, just not necessarily for standard spelling and pronunciation. Noah Webster was actually responsible for much of the standard spelling and pronunciation that Americans have today.
    fuck you
  • Re: Turkish teenager buried alive because friendship with boys shamed family
     Reply #28 - February 16, 2010, 03:22 PM

    Team America - World Language Police

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZdJRDpLHbw

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  • Re: Turkish teenager buried alive because friendship with boys shamed family
     Reply #29 - February 16, 2010, 03:24 PM
    Quote from: IsLame on February 16, 2010, 03:11 PM
    here it is; this ones for the advanced learners..

    (Clicky for piccy!)


    I was under the impression that they made it up as they went along.
    I hear what you're saying. You're spinning my head around.
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