Iraq, WMD, spin ... & eradicating an ideology

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Not according to most analysts. They don't have foreign military bases, they don't have the necessary air or naval power.

You're right I didn't think about bases and naval power. Still, I think China is the most impervious country to US intelligence so you never know what kind of weapons they have. And don't forget the demographic advantage.

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Never's a long time. Who would have predicted in 1812 that the US and UK would be the closest of allies and that many Americans would be anti-French? How many analysts predicted in 1949 that in less than 20 years the USSR and PRC would be enemies?

If I was around in 1812 I would have predicted it. Look ever since the US was established, the UK has been its main trading partner. Both nations at the time still shared a common language, religion, ethnicity, and economic values. John Adams was accepted as Ambassador in London less than a decade after the Declaration of Independence.

Same thing with the US and the EU today. Both share similar economic and social values. The foundation of the American government, judiciary, society, economy is European in all aspects. They both constitute the West and both share similar forms of governments (capitalist liberal democracies).
Plus, such a divide is not in the interest of the multinational corporations and they will employ all their abilities to evade it.

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Again, never's a long fuckin time. The East is on the rise, and their industrial economy is kicking ass as the US and EU become increasingly service/finance oriented.

I thought we were talking about the next 20 years or so. If you're talking 50 years down the line then even Latin American should be watched out for.

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Oh, they don't have to be friendly with each other to be part of a larger alliance together. Greece and Turkey are both members of NATO despite generally hostile diplomatic relations between the two, and Russia has historically had a close relationship with India, while Pakistan was/is a client state of China and the US-- considering the recent Russian-Chinese rapprochement it's not that crazy an idea that they could someday be in a larger alliance together.

Again if we're talking the next 10-20 years, I just can't see it.

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But the current situation-- one hegemonic military and economic superpower-- ain't gonna last forever.

Of course. Forever is a very long time.

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Reply #30 - February 10, 2010, 02:23 AM

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