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  • Halal food
     OP - February 09, 2010, 06:35 PM
    I have a Pakistani Muslim friend who drinks, smokes weeds, doesn't pray, have had premarital sex(or at least brags about it). I once invited him to eat chicken and rice with me, and he said he only eats Halal food. I was like WHAT  wacko Huh?

    Anyway him aside, I remember that even though I was of a quite religious background, haram food was not that of a problem (not pork though) for me and my family. We ate McDonalds and stuff when we travel to non-Muslim countries. This Ayah [5:5] came across to me as "It is OK for you to eat from Ahlulkitab's(People of the Book) food", though I made 'a leap of faith' that the owners of McDonalds, KFC and Burger King were Christians/Jews, and didn't dare to check  Cheesy

    I couldn't really understand the mentality behind the guy I mentioned not eating non-Halal, but doing every other sin. And I actually remember all my friends in Yemen who travel abroad didn't make the case that they couldn't eat from non-Islamic restaurants/fastfood takeaways because they were Haram. Those who refrain from it simply do so because of the boycotting bullshit. And I know for sure that most of my other Muslim friends(who had a hint of religiousness in them) here in the UK don't really give a rat's ass about this, but at least most of them pray and refrain from alcohol.

    So my question is: Did you guys in your Muslim days (Whether religious or not) had a problem with non-Halal food? If yes, did that even bother you? And how did you interpret the above ayah had you came across it?

    I will also appreciate it if Debunker and Abu could state their opinion as well.

    "In every time and culture there are pressures to conform to the prevailing prejudices. But there are also, in every place and epoch, those who value the truth; who record the evidence faithfully. Future generations are in their debt." -Carl Sagan

  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #1 - February 09, 2010, 06:54 PM
    Maybe he just prefers the taste of meat that has been exsanguinated?  Huh?
    fuck you
  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #2 - February 09, 2010, 06:59 PM
    Nah, I grew up in a time where even my father used to feed me non halal food as a child, not pork though, because schools didn't have halal options back then, nor was it easy to get halal meat the way it is now.

    Then when he got religious we ate what we were given, then I left home and ate whatever I was given too, which was never halal.  I stuck to halal when I was married because that was a more religious phase of my life, but sometimes I would eat what I wanted and pretend it was simply because allah said if you couldn't get halal, better to eat non halal than to starve.    And the halal shop was so far away so it's like I couldn't really get it and I had no intention of starving, so it worked out neatly.  Cheesy
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  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #3 - February 09, 2010, 07:02 PM
    Our family is crazy about halal. Everything is halal at our house. Taste good too. But we were never shy or against eating non-halal on occasion. Though not regularly. Mostly halal.


    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
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  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #4 - February 09, 2010, 07:06 PM
    We only ever ate halah - my mum didnt even wear perfume containing alchohol or lipstick containing animal fats

    Quote from: BerberElla on February 09, 2010, 06:59 PM
    Nah, I grew up in a time where even my father used to feed me non halal food as a child, not pork though, because schools didn't have halal options back then, nor was it easy to get halal meat the way it is now.

    Then when he got religious we ate what we were given, then I left home and ate whatever I was given too, which was never halal.  I stuck to halal when I was married because that was a more religious phase of my life, but sometimes I would eat what I wanted and pretend it was simply because allah said if you couldn't get halal, better to eat non halal than to starve.    And the halal shop was so far away so it's like I couldn't really get it and I had no intention of starving, so it worked out neatly.  Cheesy

    Did any fellow muslims (inc your hubby) know that you did this?  (I assume you mean non-halal sweets)
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  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #5 - February 09, 2010, 07:07 PM
    I stuck to halal food, didn't drink and do drugs. Dressed quite modestly (modest as in Britain modest, not Islam modest, that felt too far too me). I interpreted that above ayah as kosher food being allowed, the Christians had 'lost their way' so didn't eat their food Wink

    I went downhill when I got a bf Tongue Went as far as sex, then had to question my religion because nothing made sense any more.

    My family stick to halal only.
    ~My story~
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  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #6 - February 09, 2010, 07:09 PM
    Quote from: PeruvianSkies on February 09, 2010, 07:07 PM
    I went downhill when I got a bf Tongue Went as far as sex, then had to question my religion because nothing made sense any more.


    You dirty, naughty girl. Giving head will sure put the whole halal thing into perspective!  Cheesy
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  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #7 - February 09, 2010, 07:10 PM
    You're not the first one to make that joke Roll Eyes Tongue
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  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #8 - February 09, 2010, 07:13 PM
    I once told a Muslim girl that having sex is okay if he's circumcised, cos that's halal cock. My quran teacher never let me speak to his wife again!
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #9 - February 09, 2010, 07:17 PM
    Quote from: IsLame on February 09, 2010, 07:06 PM
    We only ever ate halah - my mum didnt even wear perfume containing alchohol or lipstick containing animal fats
    Did any fellow muslims (inc your hubby) know that you did this?  (I assume you mean non-halal sweets)


    As in mcdonalds or kentucky, or the odd spicey beef pizza, and yes he knew, infact one time we went food shopping with his mum and he put steak into the basket and when his mum started lecturing him he just told her to be quiet, that it was between him and allah but he wanted steak.  My ex didn't even pray the mandatory 5 prayers, and he never did the whole of ramadan ever in the whole time I knew him.  He was the worst sort of muslim ever, but he was a muslim at heart.   Roll Eyes

    If he hadn't let me, I would have simply had a burger behind his back anyway if I wanted one.  Sort of a "fuck you, you wanker" moment. I knew the rules, I didn't like them though lol.
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  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #10 - February 09, 2010, 07:32 PM
    I never had a problem with non-Halal food. I simply didn't care. I was never reallys religious. I stopped praying around 14-15. In fact even when I felt guilty about it I justified it to myself with the argument "why would Allah forbid us from eating something that has not been scientifically proven to be harmful?"

    When I debated it with my father I always quoted the Aya 2:137 "He hath only forbidden you dead meat, and blood, and the flesh of swine, and that on which any other name hath been invoked besides that of Allah. But if one is forced by necessity, without wilful disobedience, nor transgressing due limits,- then is he guiltless. For Allah is Oft-forgiving Most Merciful. "
    It doesn't say that the name of Allah must be invoked. It just says that we shouldn't invoke any name other than that of Allah. I also pointed out to him that back in Iraq we used to cook Qeema every Ashura and we had no problem invoking the name of Hussein. It always rendered him speechless.

    Right now I endeavor in order not to consume any Halal meat. It is fucked-up, barbaric, cruel, and unnecessary.

    My family is just like your friend, Infidel. I mean my dad got my sis a fancy make-up set for birthday. He also has no problem with her wearing short skirts. He accepted my apostasy. But he is sooooo strict when it comes to Halal meat it just doesn't make sense to me.
    Recently I took him on a father-son date to TGI Friday's. He wouldn't even have the Mozzarella Dippers because of the oil they were fried in. I told him "sorry dad but this is just loony"  grin12
  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #11 - February 09, 2010, 07:40 PM
    Quote from: BerberElla on February 09, 2010, 07:17 PM
    As in mcdonalds or kentucky, or the odd spicey beef pizza, and yes he knew, infact one time we went food shopping with his mum and he put steak into the basket and when his mum started lecturing him he just told her to be quiet, that it was between him and allah but he wanted steak.  My ex didn't even pray the mandatory 5 prayers, and he never did the whole of ramadan ever in the whole time I knew him.  He was the worst sort of muslim ever, but he was a muslim at heart.   Roll Eyes

    If he hadn't let me, I would have simply had a burger behind his back anyway if I wanted one.  Sort of a "fuck you, you wanker" moment. I knew the rules, I didn't like them though lol.

    Ive never understood muslims like that - did he have a major issue with you leaving Islam and raising your kids non-muslim?
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  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #12 - February 09, 2010, 07:43 PM
    Quote from: Iraqi Atheist on February 09, 2010, 07:32 PM

    Recently I took him on a father-son date to TGI Friday's.


    You're a horrible son.

    Quote
    He wouldn't even have the Mozzarella Dippers because of the oil they were fried in. I told him "sorry dad but this is just loony"  grin12


    Wait-- vegetable oil is haram? Or is it because non-halal meat may have been cooked in the same oil?
    fuck you
  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #13 - February 09, 2010, 07:43 PM
    Quote from: Iblis on February 09, 2010, 07:13 PM
    I once told a Muslim girl that having sex is okay if he's circumcised, cos that's halal cock. My quran teacher never let me speak to his wife again!


    OMG JOKE OF THE CENTURY  Cheesy
  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #14 - February 09, 2010, 07:43 PM
    I knew you'd like that one  Wink
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #15 - February 09, 2010, 07:48 PM
    I have mostly been strict with halal food. In certain periods of my life when I was not so religious I ate non-halal. I thought hey I'm doing everything else so why not this, never ate pork though, thought well this one there is no need for  Cheesy

    It all changed one fateful day when I entered a McDonald's and ordered a cheeseburger, never figured I'd end up a murtad laughing about a Quranic teacher's wife choking on a halal salami. And at her choking giving fellatio.
  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #16 - February 09, 2010, 07:56 PM
    Quote from: Q-Man on February 09, 2010, 07:43 PM
    You're a horrible son.

    Yeah I now realize I shoulda taken him to one of them shitty Iraqi kebab places.

    Quote from: Q-Man on February 09, 2010, 07:43 PM
    Wait-- vegetable oil is haram? Or is it because non-halal meat may have been cooked in the same oil?

    The latter. You see that is why it's loony.

    Quote from: BlackDog on February 09, 2010, 07:48 PM
    It all changed one fateful day when I entered a McDonald's and ordered a cheeseburger, never figured I'd end up a murtad laughing about a Quranic teacher's wife choking on a halal salami. And at her choking giving fellatio.

    BlackDog, I've noticed you mentioned McDonalds more than once. Do you really like it ?  finmad it tastes like shit. Burger King all the way baby.


    P.S: Anybody has tried Iraqi Kebab?

  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #17 - February 09, 2010, 08:13 PM
    Living in a muslim country, I obviously eat halal meat all the time. However, back in December I traveled to Europe and after a few days of eating vegetarian food or at that halal Paki restaurant (first time I had Paki food, it was pretty much the best food ever), I gave in and had chicken kebab at a regular restaurant. It was... normal. And then I had a Subway turkey sandwich but it was a disappointment because I thought it would be a real turkey escalope, silly me.

    But if uncircumcised penis counts as non-halal meat, then I broke the rule a while ago  lipsrsealed
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  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #18 - February 09, 2010, 08:14 PM
    Quote from: Iraqi Atheist on February 09, 2010, 07:56 PM
    (Clicky for piccy!)



    Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm  Smiley
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #19 - February 09, 2010, 08:15 PM
    Quote from: IsLame on February 09, 2010, 07:40 PM
    Ive never understood muslims like that - did he have a major issue with you leaving Islam and raising your kids non-muslim?


    Yes, huge issues.  He might not practise but he preaches.
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  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #20 - February 09, 2010, 08:18 PM
    Quote from: Iraqi Atheist on February 09, 2010, 07:56 PM
    Burger King all the way baby.


    BK burgers own McDonalds. Especially the whopper with cheese and flame grilled chicken.



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  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #21 - February 09, 2010, 08:19 PM
    Ugh, can't stand burger king.  Not really into charcoal.  lipsrsealed
    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #22 - February 09, 2010, 08:19 PM
    Quote from: Naerys on February 09, 2010, 08:13 PM
    But if uncircumcised penis counts as non-halal meat, then I broke the rule a while ago  lipsrsealed


     Grin
    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
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    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #23 - February 09, 2010, 08:23 PM
    Quote from: Naerys on February 09, 2010, 08:13 PM
    Living in a muslim country, I obviously eat halal meat all the time. However, back in December I traveled to Europe and after a few days of eating vegetarian food or at that halal Paki restaurant (first time I had Paki food, it was pretty much the best food ever)


    oooh - be careful when you use the word 'Paki' because its used as a racist term for South Asians and anyone who looks 'brown Asian' in the UK.....however it might not be so bad if Pakistanis use it ironically amongst themselves, even then some might get offended if you use it, especially if they don't know you  Tongue

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #24 - February 09, 2010, 08:24 PM
    Quote from: BerberElla on February 09, 2010, 08:19 PM
    Ugh, can't stand burger king. 


    You and I can never be friends.

    I have wet dreams about eating whoppers with cheese.

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #25 - February 09, 2010, 08:27 PM
    Quote from: BerberElla on February 09, 2010, 08:19 PM
    Ugh, can't stand burger king.  Not really into charcoal.  lipsrsealed


    Fuck you.  Smiley
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
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  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #26 - February 09, 2010, 08:27 PM
    Quote from: billy on February 09, 2010, 08:18 PM
    BK burgers own McDonalds. Especially the whopper with cheese and flame grilled chicken.

    Never knew this.. bit of a risky business strategy
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  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #27 - February 09, 2010, 08:29 PM
    Well IMO the best burger available in the UK is Frankie and Benny's Black Pepper Mayo Burger. It's relatively expensive so I don't go that often.

    But a cheese whopper with bacon will do  Afro
  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #28 - February 09, 2010, 08:31 PM

    In answer to the OP I have observed the same thing. Halal food is an important aspect of Islamic self identity especially in kuffar societies because it erects the most basic boundary between momin and kuffar - the food that we eat is different from the food that they eat.

    Halal, like kosher, had its roots in nessecary dietary rules of the past for health and practical reasons. Now it has become an ideology and neurosis of contamination. The food of the 'other' contaminates us. And this simple boundary is erected practically.

    The drinking, smoking weed, shagging thing is the norm - these are the basic hypocrisies of religion and Islam in play. As long as they eat halal, they still have their self-identity intact.

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
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    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #29 - February 09, 2010, 08:37 PM
    Quote from: Iraqi Atheist on February 09, 2010, 07:56 PM
    Yeah I now realize I shoulda taken him to one of them shitty Iraqi kebab places.
    The latter. You see that is why it's loony.
    BlackDog, I've noticed you mentioned McDonalds more than once. Do you really like it ?  finmad it tastes like shit. Burger King all the way baby.


    P.S: Anybody has tried Iraqi Kebab?

    (Clicky for piccy!)


    Yummy kebab. Iraqi Kebab, ladies don't be shy.... .... .

    meh

    Agreed, BK all the way. McD is just for laughs mate innit.

    Anyhow why is it loony because it's fried along with non-halal food? I was a strict abider of this rule. Never understood why, also didn't like halal food on frying pan used to cook non-halal food.
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