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  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #60 - February 11, 2010, 02:14 AM
    Quote from: Iraqi Atheist on February 11, 2010, 12:52 AM
    I'd be furious if they did this at my children's school. I would really go nuts and send leaflets/emails to all parents urging them to protest.

    This really gets me man. I don't think Kent has a large Muslim population so why don't the Muslims just STFU and eat vegetarian meals or sth. My sister goes to a Catholic school and if she's hungry she buys a tuna or a cheese sandwich. My parents would NEVER have the impudence to do something like this.

    I remember during induction week in my college, they mentioned the meat they have in the canteen is halal, and there weren't that many Muslims in the college that I am aware of. I think the idea is getting quite popular, or the schools/colleges are getting haram food and say it's halal and hope nobody notices.  Roll Eyes
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  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #61 - February 11, 2010, 02:19 AM
    Where's PETA when you need them?
  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #62 - February 11, 2010, 04:12 AM
    Ex-Muslims should start a campaign against halal foods that are slaughtered in the cruel way. It would be a great way to confront musulmans in the public domain here in the west.  Afro

    Of course some halal meats actually involve the normal procedure of bullet in the head then they slaughter them. I don't know how they justify it islamically, but that's what some slaughter houses in alberta do.
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #63 - February 11, 2010, 05:02 AM
    Really? I thought Dhabiha meant beheading the animal !
  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #64 - February 11, 2010, 05:06 AM
    It doesn't make sense to me either. But apparently the idea is that even though you shoot the poor cow in the head, its' soul is still "in the body" immediately afterwards and that means that the whole slicing the neck thing will still "work". Bizarre reasoning, some Musulmans don't accept it and go to more proper and cruel slaughter houses which allow that shit. But I'm sure the "proper" halal slaughter methods run foul on some Canadian legal code with regards to animal cruelty and proper killing of livestock.

    The place my parents go to do it by shooting them in the head first then some musulman goes for the neck immediately and does the whole halal thing.
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #65 - February 11, 2010, 05:08 AM
    Good to know
  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #66 - February 11, 2010, 05:10 AM
    I only eat halal  piggy
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
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  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #67 - February 11, 2010, 05:29 AM
    Of course brother !!

    Oh God how much I hate it when our Pakistani butcher call me "brother" when he doesn't even know my name. If only he knew how much I hate it.
  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #68 - February 11, 2010, 07:38 AM
    Dudes. I need to know something. And it's gonna sound stupid. I was always told by my kuffar friends halal is cruel. But back when I was muslim I read on the net an article about how halal is not cruel, the use of eeg showed there was no pain registered?

    It was this article.

    http://www.mustaqim.co.uk/halalstudy.htm
  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #69 - February 11, 2010, 07:52 AM
    I've seen halal being done on the roofs of moroccan houses, and outside of them if the person doesn;t have a roof, on Eid it's everywhere, people slitting the necks of animals open.

    No article/study can ever convince me it is painfree or not cruel having witnessed that.   Cry
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  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #70 - February 11, 2010, 07:55 AM
    I have never seen it myself. I think I need to watch a video but I'm too chicken-shit to watch shit like that. It's like the stoning video that I still havn't watched. I don't like violence and blood.
  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #71 - February 11, 2010, 08:01 AM
    I had to watch it, I was a child and my father made me.  He also made me walk barefoot through the thick blood puddling all over the roof, because apparantly it's good for your feet.....not an islamic thing, a stupid moroccan thing. 015  It was horrible.


    Then I had to help cleaning it, plaiting the entrails after they were washed, and washing the fleece after they skinned it.  A very bloody and sickening day indeed.
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  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #72 - February 11, 2010, 08:02 AM
    urgh
  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #73 - February 11, 2010, 08:06 AM
    Hey, I hated it, but when I see how squeamish all my normal childhood friends are I do laugh, infact my 2 closest female friends often say that if an apocoplyse happened they would come to me for protection and my lack of squeamishness. 

    I would hunt, I would kill, and I would clean it, because I'm tough like that.   cool2



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  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #74 - February 11, 2010, 08:17 AM
     cool2
  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #75 - February 11, 2010, 10:24 AM
    I used to force myself to watch the Eid's dhabiha every year, because I'm told that every drop of blood you see will erase a sin, some bullshit like that. But these last two years I just can't anymore. When the poor thing starts kicking when its life's blood is going down the drain, it's just too much for me.

    I do help with the entrails, though. I have to clean the sheep's stomach, because my mother says that a woman who can't do that is not fit to be a housekeeper  Wink It's awfully gross and the smell makes me sick.
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  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #76 - February 11, 2010, 10:32 AM
    Actually I have seen an animal get slaughtered. Well it was dead by the time I saw it, it was on the street, and people surrounded it. I didn?t think much of it, thought this is what people do here. But I kinda blocked it out and I think I was just morbidly fascinated by it. Hm, maybe I'm sicker than I thought.

    It?s not fucking sanitary though. All that blood on the street? And not to mention the animal being slaughtered on the street. I was always told you hide the knife from the animal, stroke it, give it water etc etc to make it comfortable, that is right before you cut its throat and let it bleed to death.
  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #77 - February 11, 2010, 10:36 AM
    I used to have the cruelest neighbours EVER. Every Eid they'd buy two sheep, then proceed to slaughter the first one while the second is looking! What the fuck is wrong with these people??
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  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #78 - February 11, 2010, 10:43 AM
    THey probably think the animals dont have feelings. Or they were sadists.
  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #79 - February 11, 2010, 11:13 AM
    Its obviously not pain free don't I don't think it is amazingly cruel. There are a lot more crueler methods of slaughter around, not to mention the cruelty of factory farming. I personally do not think that it is much of an issue. Killing an animal is not going to be nice for the animal in any circumstances.

    What really grinds my gears though is when you get the BNP types talking about how cruel islamic slaughter is - they don't give a fuck about how cruel islamic slaughter is; they just want as much ammo against Muslims as they can get.
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  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #80 - February 11, 2010, 12:13 PM
    But there are more humane methods (paradox i know humane animal slaughter). I try to buy free range chicke eggs for example. Not really sure if it makes a difference but I would buy a food product if I knew and was sure time has been spent on trying to make the entire process less harmful. I still feel like a hypocrite when I write this, but damn a burger tasts so good. Vat can I do.
  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #81 - February 11, 2010, 02:21 PM
    Quote from: canex on February 10, 2010, 11:48 PM

    Have you guys noticed that Halal food is always so damn expensive !!!

    Fuck i remember first year in university (during my believing days) i bought a halal chicken burger for $8 !!!!



    I live in the north of England and Halal food seems to be cheaper. A KFC chicken fillet burger meals costs like ?4 but the equivalent at this halal shop called UKFC is buy one get one free for ?3.50! Bargain! Plus I prefer UKFC chicken fillet burgers. Southern Fried style Chicken fillet burger is probably my favourite food ever.
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  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #82 - February 11, 2010, 02:23 PM
    Quote from: Iblis on February 10, 2010, 11:50 PM
    r u a paki urself??


    So you either you are one yourself or you hate how you're not allowed to use that word in public  Tongue No, I'm white.
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  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #83 - February 11, 2010, 02:43 PM
    Neither, he's of Bangladeshi heritage, I go with option 3 - think he was just trying to annoy the Pakistani's here
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  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #84 - February 11, 2010, 02:43 PM
    Quote from: canex on February 11, 2010, 12:20 AM
    dude i am in canada. yea some halal places are cheap but at my uni food is crazy expensive and considering the fact that there is always labor involved in this halal shit (the idiot who chants and cuts throats) i guess thats why its so expensive in many locations here.

    but damn it must be nice for muslims in england where there is sooooo much halal meat available. poor believers here are so stuck. they have to drive to far ass restaurants just to get their blessed food.



    I wouldn't say so much meat available. You can't get rump/ribeye/sirloin/fillet steak for example. And it's hard to find joints of beef or lamb to roast. And no turkey available at all.
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  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #85 - February 11, 2010, 02:48 PM
    Quote from: billy on February 11, 2010, 12:27 AM
    I think the insistence on halal is a territorial thing too, its an assertion of Islam in the public space. It also creates problems. There was a case a few years ago of Muslims in a school in Kent demanding halal meat be served at school. Well it turns out that they just made all the meat halal, and other students didn't realise this, for a while. It turns out that Sikh students had been eating halal meat, which they are not allowed to do, because they don't believe in ritual slaughter, and other kuffars in the school objected as well. So the halal imposition can actually create problems for others.




    Wow sounds like a school I know of, but not in Kent. My Muslim mate goes there. A new headmaster had replaced the old one and it turned out he was a convert to Islam and made sure nothing but halaal food was served at lunch time. I heard the students there were complaining too. I think they started serving non-halaal food again.
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  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #86 - February 11, 2010, 02:52 PM
    James, dude, multi-quote. It's not hard.
    I hear what you're saying. You're spinning my head around.
  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #87 - February 11, 2010, 02:53 PM
    Quote from: Iraqi Atheist on February 11, 2010, 12:52 AM
    I'd be furious if they did this at my children's school. I would really go nuts and send leaflets/emails to all parents urging them to protest.

    This really gets me man. I don't think Kent has a large Muslim population so why don't the Muslims just STFU and eat vegetarian meals or sth. My sister goes to a Catholic school and if she's hungry she buys a tuna or a cheese sandwich. My parents would NEVER have the impudence to do something like this.


    When I was a Muslim I thought (and a lot of Muslims I spoke to shared my view) that all McDonald's, KFC, Burger King and all the famous takeouts, restaurants, school canteens, infact everywhere where they serve food should serve halaal food. It made common sense to me. After all, it's not part of anyones religion that they can't eat halaal food (didn't know that Sikhs can't eat halaal...) and atheists don't have a religion anyway. I thought it would be a win-win situation to serve halaal food everywhere.
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  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #88 - February 11, 2010, 02:54 PM
    Quote from: Johnmuslim on February 11, 2010, 02:52 PM
    James, dude, multi-quote. It's not hard.


    What about if I'm replying to posts from different pages of the thread?
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  • Re: Halal food
     Reply #89 - February 11, 2010, 02:56 PM
    Open up all the tabs in IE with the quote option and then copy and paste all the relevant quotes into one post.
    I hear what you're saying. You're spinning my head around.
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