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Re: Halal food
Reply #90 - February 11, 2010, 03:07 PM

Quote from: J4m3z on February 11, 2010, 02:53 PM
When I was a Muslim I thought (and a lot of Muslims I spoke to shared my view) that all McDonald's, KFC, Burger King and all the famous takeouts, restaurants, school canteens, infact everywhere where they serve food should serve halaal food. It made common sense to me. After all, it's not part of anyones religion that they can't eat halaal food (didn't know that Sikhs can't eat halaal...) and atheists don't have a religion anyway. I thought it would be a win-win situation to serve halaal food everywhere.

But even if its not against peoples religion, it may be against their principles on a number of fronts. First of all being:

* Society has formed a consensus, about how animals should be slaughtered. It is strictly monitored and audited. Animals should not feel any pain at all - and slaughter methods reflect this. This is what British society agrees upon.

* Why should Islamic norms in regard to meat and food become default in society? This is arrogant to the extreme. Muslims have a responsibility to provide for themselves if they want to observe dietary rules that are apart from the mainstream.

The second point above just further persuades me that Halal is a form of identity politics, to entrench a kind of religious territorialism in society, to push the mainstream to accept Islamic precepts in terms of food as the norm. This is simply not acceptable.

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Re: Halal food
Reply #91 - February 11, 2010, 03:16 PM

Well I didn't give identity politics a single thought. I just thought it would be more convenient that way, since just about all the non-Muslims I knew at the time didn't care whether their food was halaal or not.

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Re: Halal food
Reply #92 - February 11, 2010, 03:18 PM

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Well I didn't give identity politics a single thought. I just thought it would be more convenient that way, since just about all the non-Muslims I knew at the time didn't care whether their food was halaal or not.

But it is indicative of how many Muslims believe that society should accomodate them, because Islam has primacy, rather than Muslims accomodating themselves into society.

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Re: Halal food
Reply #93 - February 11, 2010, 03:34 PM

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Neither, he's of Bangladeshi heritage, I go with option 3 - think he was just trying to annoy the Pakistani's here

Brown people are allowed to say it right?

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Reply #94 - February 11, 2010, 03:39 PM

I of course stick strictly to halal food - we have a really good halal butchers which do really good steaks in addition to all the regular stuff - i even got a really massive halal turkey during christmas!

plus whenever we go on holidays I make sure it's a middle eastern/north african destination mainly for the mickeyDs

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Re: Halal food
Reply #95 - February 11, 2010, 04:28 PM

Quote from: abuyunus2 on February 11, 2010, 03:39 PM
I of course stick strictly to halal food - we have a really good halal butchers which do really good steaks in addition to all the regular stuff - i even got a really massive halal turkey during christmas!

plus whenever we go on holidays I make sure it's a middle eastern/north african destination mainly for the mickeyDs

haha i was just like that.. except wouldn't go near Christmas.. not my holiday, never had a problem with saying merry Christmas or celebrating it... and yupp same with vacations, muslim destinations for the food mainly haha
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Re: Halal food
Reply #96 - February 11, 2010, 05:42 PM

Quote from: Iblis on February 11, 2010, 03:34 PM

Brown people are allowed to say it right?

Hey, provided they are comforable with it, then anyone can say anything in my opinion ..

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Re: Halal food
Reply #97 - February 12, 2010, 09:08 PM

Quote from: billy on February 11, 2010, 03:18 PM
But it is indicative of how many Muslims believe that society should accomodate them, because Islam has primacy, rather than Muslims accomodating themselves into society.

No, it's like if I got the same amount of satisfaction from fizzy cola bottles than white chocolate mice, but my friend preferred white chocolate mice, then it would make sense to get white chocolate mice. It's got nothing to do with one person having to accomodate for another person, just common sense.

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Re: Halal food
Reply #98 - February 12, 2010, 09:10 PM

Quote from: BlackDog on February 11, 2010, 04:28 PM
haha i was just like that.. except wouldn't go near Christmas.. not my holiday, never had a problem with saying merry Christmas or celebrating it... and yupp same with vacations, muslim destinations for the food mainly haha

We were told to even reject Xmas cards so when somebody had gone through the effort of writing you one and then they pass it over to you, you have to say "sorry but I don't celebrate xmas". How horrible is that?! I couldn't do that...

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