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OP - February 15, 2010, 08:02 PM

According to this toolbar i got our website is currently ranked the 374,270th most visited site on the internet. Which initially I thought was ok for a site like this, until i found out FFI is ranked 17,285. For more info go to ant.com and download the toolbar lol.

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Reply #1 - February 15, 2010, 08:24 PM

thats interesting - can you use this tool and compare it too a few other related sites e.g. ummah.com and for relative purpose lets say imdb.com, www.yusufislam.com

Also how does it measure - is it via hits, regualr users etc?

I dont understand the FFI, I wonder if this difference is down to an error

Whenever I have visited there are usually less visitors online, less regular users and also fewer posts/threads made on a daily basis. I am pretty sure there are less exmuslims on there anyway, and certainly far more fundie christians.

So the question is pretty much superfluous if you see it as a chritian site rather than an exmuslim one

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Reply #2 - February 15, 2010, 08:27 PM

ye i'll check out all that shit now. It does give info on weekly visitors so i'll check this now and post it here.

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Reply #3 - February 15, 2010, 08:29 PM

thanks - the more the merrier, I love figures

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Reply #4 - February 15, 2010, 08:45 PM

You're comparing the rankings of FFI the website vs COEM the forum.

FFI the forum, is deadtown, no one goes there apart from the select few, and hardly anyone posts there, FFI the website is articles, videos, pictures etc and that's where the traffic is.

I hear what you're saying. You're spinning my head around.
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Reply #5 - February 15, 2010, 08:46 PM

Ranking is based on internet traffic but i don't know how to insert images when posting on this site, need some help.

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Reply #6 - February 15, 2010, 08:47 PM

Think your right JohnMuslim. Our forum is very active. I think it just compares both websites not their forums.

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Reply #7 - February 15, 2010, 08:53 PM

I attached the image of how ant.com compares the two sites traffic.

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Reply #8 - February 15, 2010, 08:57 PM

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thats interesting - can you use this tool and compare it too a few other related sites e.g. ummah.com and for relative purpose lets say imdb.com, www.yusufislam.com

Also how does it measure - is it via hits, regualr users etc?

I dont understand the FFI, I wonder if this difference is down to an error

Whenever I have visited there are usually less visitors online, less regular users and also fewer posts/threads made on a daily basis. I am pretty sure there are less exmuslims on there anyway, and certainly far more fundie christians.

So the question is pretty much superfluous if you see it as a chritian site rather than an exmuslim one

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo use that to find out any site info such as traffic and traffic from particular country..

You are right., many of you guys don't like ffi., There are much more ex-muslim members at FFI but all don't write all the time.. they are busy people unlike cemb members I am surprised not to see a single post from Mariam here.

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Reply #9 - February 15, 2010, 09:04 PM

Alexa gives slightly different results:

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/councilofexmuslims.com

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/faithfreedom.org

One of the main factors would be the number of sites linking into FFI. Linkbacks are good for driving search rankings.

Of course FFI has also been around a lot longer than we have. We've been going a bit over two years and FFI has been around for over eight years.

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Reply #10 - February 15, 2010, 09:14 PM

Ye I'm not a big fan of FFI either just because of the amount of hate the site attracts nontheless alexa still ranks it higher than our site but our forum i way more active so i'm happy with that. Plus FFI was founded much earlier than COEM i think, so give it some time and we will be climbingthe ranks.

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Reply #11 - February 15, 2010, 09:24 PM

Wait, he said there were most ex Muslims at FFI? I find that very hard to believe to be honest.

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Reply #12 - February 15, 2010, 09:28 PM

I give credit to FFI for being the first site to offer a forum for ex-Muslims and was the first to really make a strong and sound critique of Islam.

But I find it's claims to be a "grassroots ex-Muslim movement" quite laughable. It certainly did attract quite a few ex-Muslims - including myself - since there was no other site for us to gather, but it has never been a site that has seen Islam from an ex-Muslim perspective.

Ex-Muslims have a much greater understanding of Islam and a greater degree of empathy towards Muslims. That was always lacking in FFI. In fact there always has been and still is an enormous amount of hatred and bigotry displayed towards Muslims. There seems little doubt that the site - at the very least - had strong support of the right-wing Christian necons and other extreme anti-Islam groups and many of their so-called ex-Muslims were fakes.

This site still suffers from coming later onto the scene, but the fact is it has far more active and 'genuine' ex-Muslims than FFI ever did have - even after only two years.

The bottom line is few decent, moderate, intelligent and genuine ex-Muslims will want to spend too much time on FFI after discovering what it is like.

This site is far more reflective of the majority of ex-Muslims who although reject Islam, do not have the extreme and often ignorant and irrational hatred that is sometimes displayed on FFI by people who only know Islam from what they read on the internet or the tabloid press.
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Reply #13 - February 15, 2010, 09:30 PM

Quote from: King Tut on February 15, 2010, 09:24 PM
Wait, he said there were most ex Muslims at FFI? I find that very hard to believe to be honest.

Some of them are over here now.

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Reply #14 - February 15, 2010, 09:32 PM

hmm so according to Alexa, hamariweb is ranked higher then FFI...

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/hamariweb.com

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Reply #15 - February 15, 2010, 09:37 PM

Quote from: osmanthus on February 15, 2010, 09:30 PM
Some of them are over here now.

thank Allah for that lol

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Reply #16 - February 15, 2010, 09:46 PM

http://www.britneyspears.com/ beats Muslim and ex-Muslim ranks together...

why worry about ranking...

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Reply #17 - February 15, 2010, 11:00 PM
Quote from: Johnmuslim on February 15, 2010, 08:45 PM
You're comparing the rankings of FFI the website vs COEM the forum.

FFI the forum, is deadtown, no one goes there apart from the select few, and hardly anyone posts there, FFI the website is articles, videos, pictures etc and that's where the traffic is.

Looking at the alexa pageviews per user & average time on site which is far higher at COEM, the stats do indeed support your findings.
- FFI, because it has better linkbacks & reference articles (thanks to Sina) primarily is used as a reference/material sourcing site and thus gets a larger number of hits. However it has a lesser visited forum which is populated largely by faithheads supporting their own beliefs by attacking Islam.
- On the otherhand, COEM is a more popular forum and is used by a exmuslims/others with "faithfreedom" to a much larger extent and for a longer period of time..
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Reply #18 - February 16, 2010, 12:00 AM

Well i was just curiious 2 see what you guys thought because even if not intended FFI does tend to breed a lot of hatred with its aggressive polemical approach towards Islam and Muslims. I'm not discrediting Sina's arguments against Islam but the discussions and debates here are more civilised and balanced. I think Islame is right in that there probably are more fundie Xtians and those of other religions there than ex-muslims themselves. FFI was one of the first sites I came across at the age of 13. It really did make me question my faith more but the shit u read on there is extreme. Anyhow I am confident we will eventually rise higher, but to me it is obvious FFI is a much more established name than we are right now.

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Reply #19 - February 16, 2010, 12:19 AM

Yep that is a concern, unless they are lucky enough to see one of hassans vids or type "exmuslim" into their search engine - a muslim first having doubts is probably more likely to stumble across FFI than this one.

For a percentage of those virgin muslim visiters on FFI, it will confirm the seething hatred and the demonic "dark side" of the kaffirs, and turn them away, rather than it being the start of a new life for them.

There's little we can do, apart from publicising this link everywhere we go.. on youtube, on forums, in our profiles etc

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