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  • Hello, everyone!
     OP - February 17, 2010, 07:16 AM
    After a few weeks of lurking this site, I decided to join the forum. Smiley

    So ok, a wee bit about myself- I'm a 21 year old Arab female who's having the veil lifted off her eyes, slowly but surely (heh). Hard as I try to rationalize Islamic doctrine, it just isn't compatible with reason and logic. :/ I still publicly identify as a Muslim, but in my heart I'm on the verge of turning apostate. Or perhaps I already am one. loldenial.

    Not much of an introduction, but hopefully you'll get to know me more with time.


    P.S: Hassan, your blog and videos are awesome. Kudos!  great

  • Re: Hello, everyone!
     Reply #1 - February 17, 2010, 07:37 AM
    Hello and welcome Smiley

    Who is that in your avatar btw?
  • Re: Hello, everyone!
     Reply #2 - February 17, 2010, 07:59 AM
    Katherine Hepburn.
  • Re: Hello, everyone!
     Reply #3 - February 17, 2010, 08:13 AM
    Hello and welcome. Smiley

    Do you think you'd have an easy time apostatizing? I hope it works out, it will be such a liberating experience I am sure.  Afro
  • Re: Hello, everyone!
     Reply #4 - February 17, 2010, 08:56 AM
    Welcome, sister.
    He's no friend to the friendless
    And he's the mother of grief
    There's only sorrow for tomorrow
    Surely life is too brief
  • Re: Hello, everyone!
     Reply #5 - February 17, 2010, 09:16 AM
    Welcome BeyT.  Smiley
    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Hello, everyone!
     Reply #6 - February 17, 2010, 10:26 AM
    Thanks!  Afro


    Quote from: Unechance on February 17, 2010, 08:13 AM
    Do you think you'd have an easy time apostatizing? I hope it works out, it will be such a liberating experience I am sure.  Afro

    Not sure. I live amongst a religious family, where the very idea of raising doubts would send tempers flaring. This has happened many times before, when I questioned the hijab (which I still wear, unfortunately, even though I don't believe in it whatsoever  Cry) and the absurdity of following scholars without question. Middle-Eastern parents. Gah!  finmad

    It most certainly will be liberating once I break free, though extremely lonely without family support. But what to do- you can't force yourself to believe.
    *sigh*
  • Re: Hello, everyone!
     Reply #7 - February 17, 2010, 10:32 AM
    Welcome ya qalbi....  It doesn't have to get too lonely for you, always keep your mind open.  May everything turn out for the best eventually
    "Modern man's great illusion has been to convince himself that of all that has gone before he represents the zenith of human accomplishment, but can't summon the mental powers to read anything more demanding than emoticons. Fascinating. "

    One very horny Turk I met on the net.
  • Re: Hello, everyone!
     Reply #8 - February 17, 2010, 01:06 PM
    Marhaba BeyT. Hope you enjoy your time on this forum.  Smiley
  • Re: Hello, everyone!
     Reply #9 - February 17, 2010, 02:29 PM

    Hey wassup BeyT  Afro
    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Hello, everyone!
     Reply #10 - February 17, 2010, 02:41 PM
    Quote from: BeyT on February 17, 2010, 07:16 AM
    After a few weeks of lurking this site, I decided to join the forum. Smiley

    So ok, a wee bit about myself- I'm a 21 year old Arab female who's having the veil lifted off her eyes, slowly but surely (heh). Hard as I try to rationalize Islamic doctrine, it just isn't compatible with reason and logic. :/ I still publicly identify as a Muslim, but in my heart I'm on the verge of turning apostate. Or perhaps I already am one. loldenial.

    Not much of an introduction, but hopefully you'll get to know me more with time.


    P.S: Hassan, your blog and videos are awesome. Kudos!  great



    Dont rush into any decisions, and take opinions of members here with a pinch of salt - come to your own conclusions after seeing both sides of the story and independent investigation.  You dont have to be an exmuslim/apostate to lurk around here  Afro

    P.S  How did you come across Hass's videos, was it by accident/ a random search on youtube?
    My Book     news002       
    My Blog  pccoffee
  • Re: Hello, everyone!
     Reply #11 - February 17, 2010, 03:14 PM
    Quote from: BeyT on February 17, 2010, 07:16 AM
    P.S: Hassan, your blog and videos are awesome. Kudos!  great

    I told you guys, Hassan is dangerous, he is a big fitna for this ummah  Cheesy

    Welcome BeyT btw, hope you enjoy this forum.  Afro
    I know you might not want to tell, but which Arab country do you come from?
    "In every time and culture there are pressures to conform to the prevailing prejudices. But there are also, in every place and epoch, those who value the truth; who record the evidence faithfully. Future generations are in their debt." -Carl Sagan

  • Re: Hello, everyone!
     Reply #12 - February 17, 2010, 03:58 PM
    Quote from: ras111 on February 17, 2010, 10:32 AM
    Welcome ya qalbi....  It doesn't have to get too lonely for you, always keep your mind open.  May everything turn out for the best eventually

    Aw, thanks. :') I need to stay positive.

    Quote from: IsLame on February 17, 2010, 02:41 PM
    Dont rush into any decisions, and take opinions of members here with a pinch of salt - come to your own conclusions after seeing both sides of the story and independent investigation.  You dont have to be an exmuslim/apostate to lurk around here  Afro

    P.S  How did you come across Hass's videos, was it by accident/ a random search on youtube?

    Thanks for the advice, IsLame. I read through your blog, very eye-opening. Afro

    I first stumbled onto Hassan's blog while searching for exmuslim stories. It really touched me, and surprised me too. Who would have thought that someone who was Muslim for so long, and is so well-versed in the Quran and ahadith would leave Islam! It totally contradicts statements made by arrogant muslims that "apostates never understood their deen/ followed the wrong teachings/etc.". After the blog came the videos- loved them all. Smiley

    Quote from: Infidel on February 17, 2010, 03:14 PM
    I told you guys, Hassan is dangerous, he is a big fitna for this ummah  Cheesy

    Welcome BeyT btw, hope you enjoy this forum.  Afro
    I know you might not want to tell, but which Arab country do you come from?

    Haha, indeed! We need videos like his to get through the thick skulls of the ummah. Almost impossible, but we can hope!  Tongue

    Ah, I don't mind telling. I'm Yemeni, but living in UAE. And you? grin12


    To Iraqi Atheist and billy, thanks for the welcome!
  • Re: Hello, everyone!
     Reply #13 - February 17, 2010, 05:18 PM
    Howdy!
  • Re: Hello, everyone!
     Reply #14 - February 17, 2010, 06:06 PM
    Quote from: BeyT on February 17, 2010, 03:58 PM
    Ah, I don't mind telling. I'm Yemeni, but living in UAE. And you? grin12

    FINALLY a freakin' Yemeni  dance   far away hug
    So yeah, I am Yemeni as well, ATM in the UK for studying, but I visit home every now and then.

    Which part of Yemen do you originally come from?
    "In every time and culture there are pressures to conform to the prevailing prejudices. But there are also, in every place and epoch, those who value the truth; who record the evidence faithfully. Future generations are in their debt." -Carl Sagan

  • Re: Hello, everyone!
     Reply #15 - February 17, 2010, 06:15 PM
    Quote from: BeyT on February 17, 2010, 10:26 AM
    Thanks!  Afro

    Not sure. I live amongst a religious family, where the very idea of raising doubts would send tempers flaring. This has happened many times before, when I questioned the hijab (which I still wear, unfortunately, even though I don't believe in it whatsoever  Cry) and the absurdity of following scholars without question. Middle-Eastern parents. Gah!  finmad

    It most certainly will be liberating once I break free, though extremely lonely without family support. But what to do- you can't force yourself to believe.
    *sigh*


    I believe it is more difficult because you are a girl, boys are privileged.. Even in extreme religious families boys can break-out. I'm not very much sure about the Arabs though because for you guys it's a matter of culture as well..

    Good Luck for a good future..  Afro
  • Re: Hello, everyone!
     Reply #16 - February 17, 2010, 06:16 PM
    This is your chance Infidel. Wink


    @BeyT

    Welcome to the forums.

    And btw, Infidel is a pretty handsome and funny guy. He likes children and smiles and puppies. He enjoys nice strolls in the park but he's no wimp, and can be assertive when he needs to.
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: Hello, everyone!
     Reply #17 - February 17, 2010, 06:18 PM
     Cheesy
  • Re: Hello, everyone!
     Reply #18 - February 17, 2010, 06:54 PM
    Welcome BeyT. Get stuck in then lol. Seems like your a bit confused right now maybe, or just trying to come to terms with how you feel so I echo the thoughts previosly mentioned, stay positive.
    "The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims. The most perfect slaves are, therefore, those which blissfully and unawaredly enslave themselves."
  • Re: Hello, everyone!
     Reply #19 - February 17, 2010, 06:56 PM
    Stay positive, and listen to yourself and trust yourself.

    I learned this from watching Oprah all day and eating Doritos. Now I have a fat ass.
  • Re: Hello, everyone!
     Reply #20 - February 17, 2010, 07:05 PM
    Quote from: Iblis on February 17, 2010, 06:16 PM
    This is your chance Infidel. Wink


    @BeyT

    Welcome to the forums.

    And btw, Infidel is a pretty handsome and funny guy. He likes children and smiles and puppies. He enjoys nice strolls in the park but he's no wimp, and can be assertive when he needs to.

     Cheesy
    "In every time and culture there are pressures to conform to the prevailing prejudices. But there are also, in every place and epoch, those who value the truth; who record the evidence faithfully. Future generations are in their debt." -Carl Sagan

  • Re: Hello, everyone!
     Reply #21 - February 17, 2010, 07:10 PM
    Welcome to you, and i like it here too (i have never been religious in any religion other than that which resides in my head). I thought you might like this for your edumacations http://www.faithfreedom.org/content/ancient-quranic-manuscripts-sanaa-and-divine-downfall, some light reading for you.
  • Re: Hello, everyone!
     Reply #22 - February 17, 2010, 07:12 PM
    Any chance of a summary Lilyesque? You know what they say brevity is a sign of genius.  whistling2
  • Re: Hello, everyone!
     Reply #23 - February 17, 2010, 07:13 PM
    summary of? my dear Dawg

    The link is basically an article about some manuscripts found in Yemen, which put somewhat of a huge question as to how "pure" the quran is.

    And me, i have 2 gods, 1 god is everything that has, does and will exist = a "divine" thing and thus i call it "god" (isnt a proper one), and my other god is something in my mind which keeps me on the right track, sort of questions the goodness of my actions and allows me to learn etc.
  • Re: Hello, everyone!
     Reply #24 - February 17, 2010, 07:17 PM
    Quote from: Lilyesque on February 17, 2010, 07:13 PM
    summary of? my dear Dawg


    Of that article. I'm reading through it. Can't wait till I order Puin's new book. What I heard was that he had to take photographs of the samples? Because he was getting kicked out? Or something rather conspiratory like that.
  • Re: Hello, everyone!
     Reply #25 - February 17, 2010, 07:18 PM
    yep he did have to and now nobody is allowed access really and the manuscripts are in a dodgy place where they could easily be damaged (very very handy for any agency trying to protect the status quo and stop much questioning)
  • Re: Hello, everyone!
     Reply #26 - February 17, 2010, 07:21 PM
    Ohh ya and its so funny, i know almost as much / more about islam than my friend who is muslim, its bizarre, and he cant see why i wouldnt join up cos of it. Well me knowing stuff makes me go no thank you gooo away Allan (Allah's nickname by me).
  • Re: Hello, everyone!
     Reply #27 - February 17, 2010, 07:23 PM
    lol Allan hahahha

    that makes him benign almost, i imagine a clumsy git with harry potter spectacles getting befuddled whenever you criticize him

    apologizes to any Allans on this board and anybody that knows an Allan
  • Re: Hello, everyone!
     Reply #28 - February 17, 2010, 07:27 PM
    Ahhhhh Laaaaaaaaaaaan, Asalam Alakoumb, Mashallan! InshAllan. Sorry i shhhhh. *Warning* Lily is hyper and crazy ATM so don't mind me will you peeps.
  • Re: Hello, everyone!
     Reply #29 - February 17, 2010, 07:29 PM
     Cheesy I like this person.
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