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  • New religion founded in punjab
     OP - February 18, 2010, 10:09 PM

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Punjab-sect-declares-new-religion/articleshow/5521656.cms

    JALANDHAR: In a step that could create a major impact on the socio-political space in Punjab and possibly other parts of the country, Dera Sachkhand Ballan announced a new religion, Ravidassia Dharm, at Seer Gowardhanpur in Banaras, the birthplace of Guru Ravidass, late on Saturday. The occasion was the 633rd birth anniversary of Ravidass, a saint of the Bhakti movement.

    It was also announced that the community would have its separate religious book, Amrit Bani Guru Ravidass, containing 240 hymns of Guru Ravidass, a separate symbol 'Har' and a separate motto 'Jai Gurudev'.

    The move to create a separate religious identity for Ravidassias has been led by Dera Sachkhand Ballan after the killing of Sant Ramananad, the deputy of dera head Sant Niranjan Dass, in Vienna on May 24 last year in Ravidass Temple there. Sant Niranjan Dass was injured in the attack allegedly carried out by some Sikhs. The motive behind the attack is still not known and Austrian police are still investigating the case.

    The move has triggered debate among religious, social and political sections, especially in Punjab. While Sant Surinder Dass Bawa, who is at the centre of the move spearheaded by Ravidassia NRIs, remained unreachable for comments, his aide, identified as Sonu from Kuwait, said that the religious book was released in the presence of dera head Sant Niranjan Dass, other members of the Sant Samaj of the community and delegates from abroad in the presence of thousands of devotees.

    It may be recalled that prior to the Vienna attack on the temple, the Sikh holy book, Guru Granth Sahib, was recited in Ravidass gurudwaras as the voice (baani) of Guru Ravidass. After the attack, Dera Ballan, making a major departure from tradition, did not place the Bir (copy) of Guru Granth Sahib during the Antim Ardas of Sant Ramanand and read only 40 hymns and one 'sloka' of Guru Ravidass, which is part of the Sikh holy book. A photo of late Sant Sarwan Dass, who founded the dera, was placed in the palanquin.

    Shortly after that, a move to shift the Birs from other Ravidass temples began. The move created a controversy as some sections of the community opposed it. In some temples, the Birs were reintroduced.

    Interestingly, Shiromani Akali Dal and SGPC had been bending over backwards to please the Dera. But, apparently, nothing worked. Not only an Akhand Path was organized at Akal Takht in the memory of Sant Ramanand, an unprecedented step, but SGPC president Avtar Singh Makkar also visited the dera. However, he was not allowed to meet dera head Sant Niranjan Dass.

    The move is said to have had the silent approval of some Congress leaders and administrative officials close to the dera.

    Earlier, only 40 hymns and one 'sloka 'of Guru Ravidass, which were part of the Guru Granth Shaib, were treated as his compositions. Now 200 other compositions, believed to be his work, have been included in the new granth. A dera follower, who witnessed the proceedings at Banaras, said that detailed directions about keeping the new religious book were also mentioned in the congregation.

    "When one bright intellect meets another bright intellect, the light increases and the Way becomes clear -- Rumi
  • Re: New religion founded in punjab
     Reply #1 - February 18, 2010, 10:11 PM

    Mohammad was the Seal of Prophets I don't know what these jokers are up to.
  • Re: New religion founded in punjab
     Reply #2 - February 18, 2010, 10:12 PM

    Asif, are you a Sikh? All of your posts seem to be about Indian religions and Sikhism.


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


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    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: New religion founded in punjab
     Reply #3 - February 18, 2010, 10:16 PM

    Asif is a muslim name though.

    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: New religion founded in punjab
     Reply #4 - February 18, 2010, 10:16 PM

    Sikh? As-if  Roll Eyes
  • Re: New religion founded in punjab
     Reply #5 - February 18, 2010, 10:17 PM

    Quote
    Sikh? As-if 

     

    The old ones are the best  Grin

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: New religion founded in punjab
     Reply #6 - February 18, 2010, 10:19 PM



    The old ones are the best  Grin


    I know. I have never made that one though. It felt good Cheesy

    Sorry Asif it's not as if we are having a laugh at your expense.

    OK we are and that joke was contrived. You have the permission to kill me now.
  • Re: New religion founded in punjab
     Reply #7 - February 18, 2010, 10:24 PM


    In London once, on Holloway Road.

    Mustafa's Kebab House.

    A drunken man walks in and said, "I must-haf-a shish kebab immediately!" , then ran away  Grin


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: New religion founded in punjab
     Reply #8 - February 18, 2010, 10:27 PM

    What do you call a man with a pig on his head?

    Ham-hid

    What do you call a man with 2 pigs on his head?

    Mo-ham-hid

    What do you call a man with 2 pigs on his head between 2 houses?

    Muhammed Ali

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  • Re: New religion founded in punjab
     Reply #9 - February 18, 2010, 10:30 PM


    Those aren't funny but I laugh at them anyway, I first heard them when I was like a kid, it was a taboo to tell them, the Muhammad Alley one is still brilliant  Grin

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: New religion founded in punjab
     Reply #10 - February 18, 2010, 10:44 PM

    What do you call a man with a pig on his head?

    Ham-hid

    What do you call a man with 2 pigs on his head?

    Mo-ham-hid

    What do you call a man with 2 pigs on his head between 2 houses?

    Muhammed Ali




     Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: New religion founded in punjab
     Reply #11 - February 18, 2010, 11:00 PM

    lol lets see how long this lasts.

    Nothing can be more contrary to religion and the clergy than reason and common sense. - Voltaire
  • Re: New religion founded in punjab
     Reply #12 - February 19, 2010, 07:33 AM

    What do you call a man with a pig on his head?

    Ham-hid

    What do you call a man with 2 pigs on his head?

    Mo-ham-hid

    What do you call a man with 2 pigs on his head between 2 houses?

    Muhammed Ali



     Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
  • Re: New religion founded in punjab
     Reply #13 - February 19, 2010, 08:52 AM

    I don't know what these jokers are up to.


    Dalit self-assertion, I think.   Seems like it started with giving more prominence to the Dalit poet Ravidas/Raidas within the Sikh tradition, but the murder of the sant in Vienna pushed it in a more separatist direction.
  • Re: New religion founded in punjab
     Reply #14 - February 19, 2010, 08:55 AM

    I expect our Punjabi warrior King Tut to join this.  Tongue

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