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  • The proof of Labours police state.
     OP - February 22, 2010, 04:33 PM

    Official Statement Regarding
    The Arrest Of The EDL Leadership Team

    On Saturday 20th February 2010 Members of the leadership team of the English Defence League were arrested as they traveled to Scotland to support the Scottish Defence League demonstration.
    While in custody the team members homes and families homes were raided by police armed with automatic machine guns which terrified the leaderships family which included small children and other older family members. Computer equipment was seized during the 3 hour raid.
    Leadership team members were banned from attending any meeting with more than 3 edl members then bailed to return to a police station in Sheffield in the near future.
    We are asking every member of the EDL to be available to protest outside the police station when the team has to answer bail. (date to be confirmed).
    We need to get the message across that we will not be silenced by being bullied by the authorities and our struggle against muslim extremism will continue.
    We have agreed to cancel the Bradford demo as a small concession but will be announcing further protests as a result of the disgraceful treatment of our leadership team.

    This is a call to mobilization.
    We need every single person who supports the EDL to stand up and be counted and when required we need you to take to the streets in a peaceful and law abiding manner to support our leadership. More details will be released regarding demonstrations in the very near future.
    If any EDL Members are arrested by the police please let EDL Media know as soon as possible as we are forming a group action and will be making an official complaint to the authorities in the near future.

    Thank you in advance for your support.

    A video statement will be released within 24 hours of this notice.

    Released on Sunday February 21st @ 13.21
  • Re: The proof of Labours police state.
     Reply #1 - February 22, 2010, 04:42 PM


    You are doing nothing to help the situation.

    You are totally misguided.

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


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  • Re: The proof of Labours police state.
     Reply #2 - February 22, 2010, 05:34 PM

    Billy you may believe we are misguided but we have the right to protest and I don't think we have done anything to deserve being raided by armed police.

    It was a legal protest, arranged in advance with the police and then they go and do this.
    People were arrested in their beds in early morning raids, roads were blocked and people were herded off of trains, arrested and sent back.

    The whole leader ship team were arrested and charged, their homes were searched when in fact they had done nothing wrong.

    The few who managed to get there were hunted down by gangs of UAF and attacked in full view of the police who turned a blind eye.

    Do they think that they can get away with intimidating us like this. We are already sorting out some kind of legal action and our next demo will be bigger than ever.

    Arthur.
  • Re: The proof of Labours police state.
     Reply #3 - February 22, 2010, 05:50 PM


    arthur, why is your representative wearing a balaclava and covering his face like a suicide bomber in his video?



    Why do something that looks so intimidating, like an IRA video, or Islamic extremist video?



    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


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  • Re: The proof of Labours police state.
     Reply #4 - February 22, 2010, 05:53 PM

    lol united colours of edl
  • Re: The proof of Labours police state.
     Reply #5 - February 22, 2010, 06:03 PM

     Billy wrote
    Quote
    arthur, why is your representative wearing a balaclava and covering his face like a suicide bomber in his video?


     Probably because he is worried about being kidnapped by Islamic nut jobs and ending up being beheaded on youtube.I must admit that the clothing was a poor choice and a suit and tie would have looked more professional.His face could have been pixelated out.

     The arrests and machine gun raids on people's homes is a worrying development.Its quite clearly politically motivated as the EDL is not a terrorist organisation and Tommy's wife and kids didn't represent a threat to the police.
     

     
  • Re: The proof of Labours police state.
     Reply #6 - February 22, 2010, 06:44 PM

    Tony - do you understand how making a video declaiming a speech whilst having your face covered makes you look like a bunch of sinister thugs?

    I simply don't trust the EDL.


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


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  • Re: The proof of Labours police state.
     Reply #7 - February 22, 2010, 06:59 PM

    lol united colours of edl

     Afro

    Yep, red, white & blue, because in case you forget, there aint no Black in the Union Jack.

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  • Re: The proof of Labours police state.
     Reply #8 - February 22, 2010, 07:17 PM

    Tony - do you understand how making a video declaiming a speech whilst having your face covered makes you look like a bunch of sinister thugs?

    I simply don't trust the EDL.




     I agree.Its not a good image at all and sends out the wrong message.In fact the first thought that came into my head was "IRA/UDA". The EDL does have some serious problems when it comes to PR.

     
  • Re: The proof of Labours police state.
     Reply #9 - February 22, 2010, 07:19 PM

    What is he going to say that will make some crazy jihadi kidnap him?

    Can one really not criticize Islam in a way that will shut up your opponent?

    Are you against the murder of civilians? Yes or no?

    Are you against 9/11 and 7/7?

    If yes, why is this happening. And please do not tell me its a small group that hijacked Islam. Why is no takfir being called on them?

    And thus why are they not being fought? Why is not Jihad waged against them?

    If I as a muslim feel I am getting attacked in my country, and I happen to live in England, born and breed can I wage jihad as in self-defense against extremists? Or will I then be a kafir for fighting muslims?

    Is there no difference between a muslim and a jihadi muslim?

    If so we go back to question one, how can you be against murder of civilians yet not make a takfir of the people that carried these attacks out?
  • Re: The proof of Labours police state.
     Reply #10 - February 22, 2010, 07:34 PM

    I agree.Its not a good image at all and sends out the wrong message.In fact the first thought that came into my head was "IRA/UDA". The EDL does have some serious problems when it comes to PR.


    The EDL is a joke. Its doing nothing to combat the spread of Islamic extremism in Britain. How many times have we discussed what a real opposition movement to Islamic extremism and the creep of sharia codes that oppress Muslim women would mean when arthur posts here, he doesn't pay any attention and the EDL people still keep posting here without having any serious discussion.  They are a joke. Dressing up as sinister thugs, holding marches in places with no history of Islamic extremism but which are BNP agitation strongholds (Stoke on Trent) and then having a mini-riot amongst themselves. What a joke.



    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


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    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: The proof of Labours police state.
     Reply #11 - February 22, 2010, 07:38 PM

    I think the only really discourse that can be held in regards to Sharia and extremism is an intellectual one. A secular one, no holds barred, octagon ring one. Culturally taking the piss out of these bearded ass-hats is another great method to get people laughing and get water-cooler talk going. Question to the smarter people here, not being scared, does that minimize threat? I mean these fucks are a threat, and I'm sure British Intelligence is on them and doing what they can, but what about public perception?

    I also think the liberal/secular muslims need to get their balls out of their purses, attach them and talk about this issue. Lest they want to drag all of us into the deep abyss that we are currently threatened with. And intellectually convince the politicians to stop recognize the apples from the oranges. Or in this case a hidden hand grenade in an apple hand basket.
  • Re: The proof of Labours police state.
     Reply #12 - February 22, 2010, 08:02 PM

    I wish EDL would go and post in FFI, then would be loved there and get more support - little point of posting on a predominantly left wing liberal forum imo, but then again just goes to prove the stupidity of these people.

    Here's the URL in case of you members get a brainwave and hopefully decide to sod off

    http://forum09.faithfreedom.org/


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  • Re: The proof of Labours police state.
     Reply #13 - February 23, 2010, 03:22 AM

    Would it be too much for the EDL (these self proclaimed guardians of our nation) to put our flag the right way up?  Plus they put the Indian flag upside down as well.  Fucking jackasses.

    All the while while looking like a cheesy copy of the IRA. 

    Wankers.

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  • Re: The proof of Labours police state.
     Reply #14 - February 23, 2010, 08:21 AM

    Displaying a flag upside down is an international distress signal.  The EDL probly did that on purpose because they think Britain and India are in imminent danger of being taken over by jihadis.   Roll Eyes

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  • Re: The proof of Labours police state.
     Reply #15 - February 23, 2010, 09:29 AM

    I wish EDL would go and post in FFI, then would be loved there and get more support - little point of posting on a predominantly left wing liberal forum imo, but then again just goes to prove the stupidity of these people.

    Here's the URL in case of you members get a brainwave and hopefully decide to sod off

    http://forum09.faithfreedom.org/




    I disagree. 

    I've read back through a few of the threads by the EDL, none of them have been rude, even in the face of alot of hositility, none of them have breached any of the terms of agreement at this forum, why should they sod off?

    I think all people have a right to protest, I think it's a fucking joke that some muslim protestors can stand around with placards threatening death to the people of this country who are not muslims, but an EDL protest is shut down, and the leaders arrested rapidly.  How long did it take the police to make any arrests after the danish embassy protests by the muslims protestors?  infact did they ever get round to it?

    It's the hypocrisy that is pissing me off more than anything.





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  • Re: The proof of Labours police state.
     Reply #16 - February 23, 2010, 09:39 AM

    There were arrests after the Danish embassy protests, but I don't know how long it took. 

    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: The proof of Labours police state.
     Reply #17 - February 23, 2010, 09:50 AM

    yeah i have to agree the edl people posting here have never been rude
  • Re: The proof of Labours police state.
     Reply #18 - February 23, 2010, 10:35 AM

    I disagree. 

    I've read back through a few of the threads by the EDL, none of them have been rude, even in the face of alot of hositility, none of them have breached any of the terms of agreement at this forum, why should they sod off?

    I think all people have a right to protest, I think it's a fucking joke that some muslim protestors can stand around with placards threatening death to the people of this country who are not muslims, but an EDL protest is shut down, and the leaders arrested rapidly.  How long did it take the police to make any arrests after the danish embassy protests by the muslims protestors?  infact did they ever get round to it?

    It's the hypocrisy that is pissing me off more than anything.

    They havent been rude, but thats a red herring, I never said they had been. 

    Behind their somewhat polished veneer, I see something far more foreboding and sinister - judging from your backing, are you saying you now support the EDL?

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  • Re: The proof of Labours police state.
     Reply #19 - February 23, 2010, 10:56 AM

    I posted a little on the EDL forums, they knew I was gay, never found it to be a problem. From what I read, they were trying to invite more gay people. They were all very welcoming and nice to the few Indians and Sikhs that were posting there as well. Which, to me personally, was a bit strange as I took them to be right-wing nut-job supremacists. I never encountered anything racial or homophobic through the people I spoke to, I just think they've got to lose their association with other right-wing people / the BNP. They're sort of clumped with them all.

    Not saying I necessarily support them, but the reason I joined CEMB was to understand other people and ex-Muslims a little more and it gave me a more open-minded view that maybe not all Muslims are stereotypical religious nutheads, a lot are just like me and don't like aspects of their religion either... and I've found that the EDL people I've spoken to are hardly the right-wing nutheads I envisioned either... It's sort of a plus of mixing with other people.

    I agree though, that video misrepresents them. The person looks like a jihadist himself, lol.
  • Re: The proof of Labours police state.
     Reply #20 - February 23, 2010, 11:45 AM

     The EDL arrests should worry everyone.Next time it might be members of the BMSD or other peaceful protest groups.Ordinary Muslims also suffer this kind of treatment and have been very vocal about thuggish police invading their homes and threatening innocent family members.

     
    Quote
    Not saying I necessarily support them, but the reason I joined CEMB was to understand other people and ex-Muslims a little more and it gave me a more open-minded view that maybe not all Muslims are stereotypical religious nutheads, a lot are just like me and don't like aspects of their religion either... and I've found that the EDL people I've spoken to are hardly the right-wing nutheads I envisioned either... It's sort of a plus of mixing with other people.


     Its the reason I joined this forum.Some people in the ELD do disturb me but on a whole they seen to be genuine people who do have real concerns.But I can understand the authorities being concerned as there is a real danger the EDL might make a bad situation a lot worse.City center demos will imflame the situation and achieve little.Targets should be the Saudi Embassy and the homes of MPs who have used Muslims to gain political advantage.
     
  • Re: The proof of Labours police state.
     Reply #21 - February 23, 2010, 12:00 PM

    They havent been rude, but thats a red herring, I never said they had been.  


    No, you just hinted they should all sod off and gave a link to somewhere else. Calling my pointing out to you that people don't have to sod off unless they break the rules a red herring doesn't change that fact.


    Quote
    Behind their somewhat polished veneer, I see something far more foreboding and sinister -


    Maybe I'm naive then, I see it the other way round, behind the screwed up misguided coating, I see a bunch of genuine folks with genuine worries who are really bad at expressing those worries in a constructive way, ergo my preference to maintain dialogue rather than send them over to FFI for more confusion.  Mixed into that a good few real nasty individuals trying to ride their coat tails to achieve more sinister results and you have a confusing bag of pick'n'mix.

    Quote

     judging from your backing, are you saying you now support the EDL?


    Support them how?

    You mean support everyones right to protest freely in their own country?  yeah, I guess I do support that.


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  • Re: The proof of Labours police state.
     Reply #22 - February 23, 2010, 12:11 PM

    I posted a little on the EDL forums, they knew I was gay, never found it to be a problem. From what I read, they were trying to invite more gay people. They were all very welcoming and nice to the few Indians and Sikhs that were posting there as well. Which, to me personally, was a bit strange as I took them to be right-wing nut-job supremacists. I never encountered anything racial or homophobic through the people I spoke to, I just think they've got to lose their association with other right-wing people / the BNP. They're sort of clumped with them all.

    Not saying I necessarily support them, but the reason I joined CEMB was to understand other people and ex-Muslims a little more and it gave me a more open-minded view that maybe not all Muslims are stereotypical religious nutheads, a lot are just like me and don't like aspects of their religion either... and I've found that the EDL people I've spoken to are hardly the right-wing nutheads I envisioned either... It's sort of a plus of mixing with other people.

    I agree though, that video misrepresents them. The person looks like a jihadist himself, lol.


    Good post.  yes


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  • Re: The proof of Labours police state.
     Reply #23 - February 23, 2010, 12:24 PM

    No, you just hinted they should all sod off and gave a link to somewhere else.

    I didnt hint, I indeed (and still hope) they would
    Quote
    Calling my pointing out to you that people don't have to sod off unless they break the rules a red herring doesn't change that fact.

    It does, btw this is another red herring.  We all know they dont have to go, I was only pointing out that I hoped they would.  You're arguing against random points, in order to justify your own stance.

    Quote
    Maybe I'm naive then,

    I think so

    Quote
    I see it the other way round, behind the screwed up misguided coating, I see a bunch of genuine folks with genuine worries

    What - like shariah law is just round the corner?  Is that why they recruit in football stadiums amongst groups of people who know nothing about Islam?  I dont doubt there are genuine members there, but I smell the nasty scent of bigotry first.

    Quote
    Support them how? You mean support everyones right to protest freely in their own country?  yeah, I guess I do support that.


    You what?  I am arguing against free speech now  Huh?

    No, the question was do you support EDL, not whether you are in support of free speech - please cut the red herrings.

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  • Re: The proof of Labours police state.
     Reply #24 - February 23, 2010, 12:38 PM

    I didnt hint, I indeed (and still hope) they wouldIt does, btw this is another red herring.  We all know they dont have to go, I was only pointing out that I hoped they would.  You're arguing against random points, in order to justify your own stance.
    I think so
    What - like shariah law is just round the corner?  Is that why they recruit in football stadiums amongst groups of people who know nothing about Islam?  I dont doubt there are genuine members there, but I smell the nasty scent of bigotry first.
    You what?  I am arguing against free speech now  Huh?

    No, the question was do you support EDL, not whether you are in support of free speech - please cut the red herrings.


    Isn't that exactly what you are doing though?

    Diverting attention away from me calling you out on your sod off tactics, whilst trying to imply I now support the EDL wholly. 

    What a joker.  Where did I even say you were arguing against free speech?  what's good for the goose is also good for the gander.

    You accuse me of red herrings when you are swimming in a school of them yourself.

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: The proof of Labours police state.
     Reply #25 - February 23, 2010, 12:49 PM

    Isn't that exactly what you are doing though?

     
     Huh?
    Quote
    Diverting attention away from me calling you out on your sod off tactics

     Huh?

    Quote
    whilst trying to imply I now support the EDL wholly. 

    I asked if you support the EDL, I didnt imply anything.  Its a simple Yes or No answer, which I am still waiting for?

    Quote
    What a joker.

     
    Cut the ad-hominems- you're supposed to be a moderator

    Quote
    Where did I even say you were arguing against free speech? 

    You implied it with your grand argument against free-speech

    Quote
    what's good for the goose is also good for the gander.

    You accuse me of red herrings when you are swimming in a school of them yourself.

    Best to point them out to prove your point, rather than making assertions which can be dismissed easily with a "No, I'm not  Tongue" - not really mature debating tactics, so I'd rather not go there if you dont mind.

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  • Re: The proof of Labours police state.
     Reply #26 - February 23, 2010, 12:50 PM


    Berber, I hear what you're saying. I am just wondering what they hope to achieve by posting here. Because despite the fact that people like arthur are polite, he has never responded to a single substantial and very respectfully articulated point that has been made to him about the methodologies of his organisation.

    The longer it goes on, the more sinister and nasty they become. When they are not reading statements wearing face coverings like sinister terrorists, they are marching in a part of the country that has absolutely  no history of Islamic extremism, Stoke on Trent, but which has a recent history of hardcore BNP activity focussed on the tiny Muslim community there. That it ended with the EDL fighting amongst themselves just makes it seem even more depraved.

    Time after time after time, arthur has been asked what he hopes to achieve by acting in provocative ways in places that have nothing to do with Islamic extremism. His organisation has been, and will be in the process of being infiltrated by the far-right - he has been tyold that numerous times her. Not once has he responded with any credibility.

    More and more it seems that the EDL are full of thugs who have a simple agenda of baiting Muslims in every area they decide to hold a protest in, regardless of what they have to do with Anjum Chaudhry style Islamic extremism - overwhelmingly nothing.

    Now I happen to believe that this response has been fomented by years and years of open, defiant and irresponsible public protest and rhetoric by Islamic extremists and dawah merchants. That culminated in the universal rage and disgusted when returning soldiers were abused by Chaudhry and his chums. But we can acknowledge this and the failures of the Left and others in society to oppose this, without giving comfort to the EDL, who quite blatantly, right now, are a menace. I just want to know what arthur hopes to achieve by posting here.

    (Maryam Namazie and others are doing more to counter the campaigns to incorporate sharia codes into society than the EDL have ever done - they can only talk and declaim unrealistically about such things - opposing them takes careful systematic activism, not scattergun shouting and screaming by a bunch of balaclava wearing thugs with a persecution complex)



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  • Re: The proof of Labours police state.
     Reply #27 - February 23, 2010, 12:57 PM


    Here is a post I wrote in January to arthur - I never received a serious, credible answer to this:

    +++++++

    Here is what would be effective as a method of direct action against Islamists and Islamic extremists in the UK:

    (a) Counter-demonstration against targetted groups and meetings - al Muhajiroun and their reincarnations, Hizb ut Tahrir, and others, whenever and wherever they hold public meetings or demonstrations. By as wide a coalition as possible - non Muslims and Muslims.

    (b) Public debate and refutation of Islamists, both of the most extreme kind, and of the 'less extreme' MCB kind, especially regarding the issue of sharia in all its manifestations. The kind of thing that Maryam Namazie and the One Law for All campaign currently does, but the more who take this on board, the better.

    (c) An organised lobby of concerned citizens of all backgrounds who collectively work to contact politicians and respond to the media and challenge the presumptions and assertions of the Maududi / Qutb activists in our society, and to repudiate the Ummah identity-politics that manifests itself in different ways in politics and media and journalism. This is the nitty gritty work of sending letters, e-mails, drafting manifestos, doing research, challenging Islamists online, learning the specificities and details of this ideology and its proponents in British society, and exposing them and their ideas to the public and influential people in society.

    (d) Focussing most acutely on issues like womens rights, the apologia for jihadism, and the rights of Muslim apostates, and raising these issues in the media, through MPs, and in wider society. No quarter must be allowed to the jihadis. Monitoring them across the country, in local government, their apologists and soft-soapers, high-lighting their entryist tactics.

    (e) Challenging Islamic extremism and radicalisation and jihadism on British university campuses, a very real problem.

    So, these are just some of forms of direct action that can be taken. My gut instinct is that the EDL is a literalist response to the obscenity of a couple of decades of open outrage of the most vile Islamic extremist rhetoric in our society that culminated in the abuse spat at soldiers during a parade by Anjum Chaudhry and his crew. I think it may be harsh to tar them with the brush of racism or nazism - but I do believe they are naive in the extreme, and are either on the verge of being, or already have been infiltrated by the far-right, including white supremacists, extreme nationalist NF types.

    Ultimately their actions in not restricting their direct action to counter-demonstrations against specific Islamist extremist groups marks them down as reckless and agitators themselves. To be most charitable, I would say they are hopelessly naive and literalist and do not have clear eyes and clear minds about the issues. At the worst, they are about to implode and are running a severe risk of becoming a vessel for far-right extremists, and their presence on the streets makes matters worse. Naievity is at the core of their decent spokesmen like Arthur. For someone whose posts are intelligent and concerned, his naievity is very very worrying.


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  • Re: The proof of Labours police state.
     Reply #28 - February 23, 2010, 02:30 PM

    I disagree. 

    I've read back through a few of the threads by the EDL, none of them have been rude, even in the face of alot of hositility, none of them have breached any of the terms of agreement at this forum, why should they sod off?

    I think all people have a right to protest, I think it's a fucking joke that some muslim protestors can stand around with placards threatening death to the people of this country who are not muslims, but an EDL protest is shut down, and the leaders arrested rapidly.  How long did it take the police to make any arrests after the danish embassy protests by the muslims protestors?  infact did they ever get round to it?

    It's the hypocrisy that is pissing me off more than anything.


    No, you just hinted they should all sod off and gave a link to somewhere else. Calling my pointing out to you that people don't have to sod off unless they break the rules a red herring doesn't change that fact.


    Maybe I'm naive then, I see it the other way round, behind the screwed up misguided coating, I see a bunch of genuine folks with genuine worries who are really bad at expressing those worries in a constructive way, ergo my preference to maintain dialogue rather than send them over to FFI for more confusion.  Mixed into that a good few real nasty individuals trying to ride their coat tails to achieve more sinister results and you have a confusing bag of pick'n'mix.

    Support them how?

    You mean support everyones right to protest freely in their own country?  yeah, I guess I do support that.


     Afro +1 While I agree with billy and IsLame that the EDL is a dangerous right-wing organization, that doesn't mean all its members are, and the ones who have been posting here have been polite and open to dialogue. Telling them to sod off to FFI, where they will find more people to reinforce or exacerbate extremist views is the wrong tack to take, I think. As long as they are polite and open to dialogue, isn't it better to engage them here? Who knows-- they might eventually be convinced that the EDL is causing more harm than good and maybe they should join or start a new organization with similar goals.

    Furthermore, even if these dudes were waving swastika flags, I'd still support their right to protest. I'd also support some antifa showing up and beating the shit out of them, but I don't see how this raid by the government is justified, unless they are organizing themselves as a paramilitary unit (which maybe they are, I dunno). The right-wing must be fought by the working-class, not the state, which has an interest in using any pretext to discourage political dissent and expand its size and powers over all of us. A government that has the power to silence people based on political content is a very dangerous thing, even if we hold those they are attempting to silence in utter contempt.

    fuck you
  • Re: The proof of Labours police state.
     Reply #29 - February 23, 2010, 02:39 PM


    Q-Man, I feel exasperated by arthur's appearences. I take it for granted that the point of coming here is to have a dialogue - in all the time he's been posting here he has not responded substantively to any credible point that has been made to him and that has invited a response.

    As it is I've said many times that I don't think arthur is a racist or a bigot (from what he has said) - I just think he is catastrophically naive and misguided.


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    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

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