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  • all UK members - Channel 4 Documentary Available to watch now!
     OP - March 01, 2010, 11:38 AM


    Updated - you can watch the documentary in full here (thanks Iblis)



    http://kitmantv.blogspot.com/2010/03/britains-islamic-republic.html




    ++++++++


    DO NOT MISS IT

    A Dispatches special on the infiltration of Tower Hamlets council in London by Jamat-e-Islami and Islamic Forum Europe (IFE) activists. Including the possible involvement of a war criminal from the 1971 war of Bangladeshi Independance.

    The Spitoon has the details summarised:

    +++++++

    Channel 4 Dispatches: Jamaat-e-Islam in the UK

    The extent of the intertwined linkages between the East London Mosque, the Islamic Forum Europe, the Muslim Council of Britain and the South Asian far-right Islamist party, Jamaat-e-Islam is to be the subject of 2 Channel 4 Dispatches programmes, to be shown on Monday 1st and 8th of March. An accompanying article on the documentay by Andrew Gilligan, who will front the documentary, is in today’s Sunday Telegraph:

    The mosque and IFE are inextricably intertwined. Dr Mohammed Abdul Bari, the chairman of the mosque, and its vice-chairman are former IFE presidents.

    The director and imam of the mosque are trustees of the group. Of 22 IFE trustees in recent years, only five have not also been trustees or officeholders of the religious centre.

    The mosque calls the IFE a “social welfare organisation” and the IFE presents itself as committed to “community cohesion” and “tolerance”.

    But the undercover reporters discovered that it was also a sophisticated political group with a structured rank system and hardline goals.

    Prospective recruits must attend training. One undercover reporter was told that she would have to take an exam and swear an oath of allegiance and ordered to keep her membership of the IFE a secret.

    The nature of Jamaat’s fascist, supremacist ideology and the extremely sophisticated methodology of its propagation are well documented in the article. It’s all there:

    1) The championing of fascist Islamic supremacist ideologues such as Syed Mawdud, the godfather of Islamism:

    The key text, Let Us Be Muslims, by Syed Mawdudi, a high priest of Islamism, instructs recruits: “The sacred duty of Muslims … wherever you are, in whichever country you live, you must strive to change the wrong basis of government, and seize all powers to rule and make laws from those who do not fear God.”

    2) The indoctrination of young people:

    The nature of that Islamic social and political order in Britain was made clear when Mr Rabbani said: “Whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers.” He instructed the recruits to “protect yourselves” from music, television and “free mixing with women in that which is not necessary”.

    3) The certainty of it’s religious supremacism:

    Mr Abideen attacked key moderate Muslims for “flirting with the West and the media to convince them that we are ‘good peaceful Muslims’”.

    He said they were examples of “deviation” who would go to hell. Another IFE document said: “IFE’s primary work is in Europe because it is this continent, despite all the furore about its achievements, which has a moral and spiritual vacuum.”

    Our old friend Azad Ali, head of the Civil Service Islamic Society, “lover” of Anwar al-Awlaki and Abdullah Azzam, gets a namecheck too:

    Azad Ali, the IFE’s community affairs coordinator, was filmed by the undercover reporters stating: “Democracy, if it means at the expense of not implementing the sharia, no one’s going to agree with that.”

    The IFE is not itself a violent organisation. None of its members is known to have been personally implicated in any terrorist act and it has, apparently sincerely, condemned terrorist attacks in London.

    However, the IFE appears satisfied to host speakers who advocate hatred and violence. Several of its senior officials, including Mr Ali, until recently defended Anwar al-Awlaki, who is blamed for inspiring at least three terrorist attacks, including September 11 and the attempted underwear bombing in Detroit.

    Several IFE activists and officials, including Mr Ali, support Hamas, which is designated as a terrorist organisation by the British and American governments. Mr Ali advocates the destruction of Israel, justifies the killing of British troops in Iraq, believes al-Qaeda is a “myth” and has praised Osama bin Laden’s mentor, Abdullah Azzam.

    When I discussed the forthcoming Dispatches documentary with a friend of mine, he made the following observations:

    “I just hope they provide more content and context than previous docs. I know they obviously dont want Carter Ruck all over them, but if they are going to make accusations about Jamaat as a movement they should at least give us some examples of radicalism and how their ideology is manifest into action. The ‘71 war crimes involvement, Jamaat student wings trying to take over Bangladeshi and Pakistani universities through extreme violence, such as cutting the tendons of their “enemies”, so targetted students can never walk again, money laundering, the Gitmo prisoners with Jamaat backgrounds, the whole lot…”

    One can but hope.

    http://www.spittoon.org/archives/5252


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  • Re: all UK members - Channel 4 8pm tonight
     Reply #1 - March 01, 2010, 09:03 PM


    A very, very, very important documentary.

    Jamaat-e-Islami front organisation IFE infiltrating Tower Hamlets council, just about as far-right extremist as you can get without going over into out and out jehadism, trying to get a directly elected mayor with money spending powers, members threatening Muslims in the area to not act in a non Islamic manner like mini talibans. IFE connected to the highest level of the Muslim Council of Britain.

    Bangladeshi Muslims in the area from secular backgrounds are fighting back. British politicians are being made fools of by the IFE and Jamaatis - mainstream secular politicians screw over secular moderate Muslims.


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


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    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: all UK members - Channel 4 8pm tonight
     Reply #2 - March 01, 2010, 09:10 PM

    "Channel 4 Dispatches: Jamaat-e-Islam in the UK"

    Is this^ the full title of the show?

    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: all UK members - Channel 4 8pm tonight
     Reply #3 - March 01, 2010, 09:16 PM


    This is the programme

    http://www.channel4.com/programmes/dispatches/episode-guide/series-54/episode-1

    Channel 4 - Dispatches - Britain's Islamic Republic

    It should be on youtube in the next few days, I'll post it as soon as I come across it.


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


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    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: all UK members - Channel 4 8pm tonight
     Reply #4 - March 01, 2010, 09:28 PM

    Guys write comments at CH4's website if you can.
  • Re: all UK members - Channel 4 8pm tonight
     Reply #5 - March 02, 2010, 01:35 AM

    Hey I just downloaded it and its only 15 minutes long. Have the other parts been aired too?

    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: all UK members - Channel 4 8pm tonight
     Reply #6 - March 02, 2010, 01:42 AM


    Its an hour long programme, with ads running time was probably like 50 minutes


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: all UK members - Channel 4 8pm tonight
     Reply #7 - March 02, 2010, 01:43 AM

    fack, why did I only get a piece thats 15 min long Huh?

    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: all UK members - Channel 4 8pm tonight
     Reply #8 - March 02, 2010, 01:55 AM

     Afro Afro Afro Afro Afro Afro Afro
    http://kitmantv.blogspot.com/2010/03/britains-islamic-republic.html

    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: all UK members - Channel 4 8pm tonight
     Reply #9 - March 02, 2010, 01:58 AM

    Spot the fag!!!!!

     jawdrop

    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: all UK members - Channel 4 8pm tonight
     Reply #10 - March 02, 2010, 02:08 AM


    Nice one, we'll discuss it tommorow after you've watched it in full.


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: all UK members - Channel 4 Documentary Available to watch now!
     Reply #11 - March 02, 2010, 02:13 AM

    George Galloway is such an oppurtunistic, unprincipled slimebag. Useful idiots I believe they're called? You can almost see the puppet strings.

    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: all UK members - Channel 4 Documentary Available to watch now!
     Reply #12 - March 02, 2010, 08:26 AM



    This site has some good videos....The third one down is called 'Ambon's religious bloodbath'
    It starts by asking the question: What turned these peaceful islanders into brutal killers?
    The answer: Middle east death cult tribalism, that's what. Evangelical christians and muslims together on an island, and ta da.

    the Abrahamic religions...I fuckin hate em

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  • Re: all UK members - Channel 4 Documentary Available to watch now!
     Reply #13 - March 02, 2010, 09:15 AM


    I don't know if this URL will expire, but here it is, a direct link to the downloadable video: Dispatches' program on the IFE

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  • Re: all UK members - Channel 4 Documentary Available to watch now!
     Reply #14 - March 02, 2010, 10:59 AM

    George Galloway is such an oppurtunistic, unprincipled slimebag. Useful idiots I believe they're called? You can almost see the puppet strings.


    He really is an utter sleaze ball.

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: all UK members - Channel 4 Documentary Available to watch now!
     Reply #15 - March 02, 2010, 11:02 AM


    Well, here is Andrew Gilligan writing in the Daily Telegraph today - all those comments on the Channel 4 website were, yep, co-ordinated.

    ++++++++

    You may have noticed that any newspaper articles or TV programmes exposing the doings of Islamist radicals - such as the ones about the Islamic Forum of Europe which I’m in the process of bringing out at the moment – always attract weirdly formulaic, oven-ready complaints (”what the well-known racist and CIA agent Andrew Gilligan conveniently forgets to acknowledge is the decisive role of the IFE in promoting community cohesion, ending world poverty, stopping climate change,” etc, etc.) Well, I think I’ve solved the mystery.

    Someone not a million miles from the IFE has kindly passed me an email sent out by Musleh Faradhi, the organisation’s president, last Tuesday, February 22nd. “We need to ensure Channel 4 receives a strong message from the community by being inundated with complaints,” says Mr Faradhi. That was nearly a week before transmission.

    Then there’s the email – also leaked to me – circulated at 6.12pm yesterday (Mon) by the IFE’s chums at the Muslim Council of Britain. “Do everything you can to get articulate responses ready and distributed from as many of our affiliates as possible…In essence, we need to make a noise out there and we need everyone’s help. It is vital we do this for our collective interests,” says Tufael Ahmed of the MCB’s media committee. Still almost two hours till airtime, Tufael!

    Here is some free media advice for the media committee. It would have been better not to be cross until you had actually seen the programme. Any sense that complaints are being “ensured” or that “articulate responses” are being “got ready” hours or even days beforehand might lead the rest of us to conclude that the outrage is somewhat… well, manufactured.

    I might also remind my new fans of something that a previous object of my attentions, Ken Livingstone, had to learn the hard way. We have amassed a great deal of material on this story, much of which has not so far emerged. Don’t rush in to any (further) denials which you may later come to regret.

    I have no doubt that many of my “articulate responders” will complain on the grounds I’ve claimed that the IFE is at the heart of a giant Islamist conspiracy that Links Everything Together. I haven’t said that, in fact – but if I wanted to say it, I don’t think I’d need much better evidence than Mr Ahmed’s email, with its claim that the IFE is at the heart of “our collective interests.”


    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/andrewgilligan/100028040/islamist-radicals-complain-early-complain-often/



    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: all UK members - Channel 4 Documentary Available to watch now!
     Reply #16 - March 02, 2010, 12:57 PM

    I'm only 10 minutes in, but this video makes me realize that no matter how weird and barbaric and utterly disgusting I think some people are, there's always "humans" twice as disgusting.
  • Re: all UK members - Channel 4 Documentary Available to watch now!
     Reply #17 - March 02, 2010, 01:04 PM

    George Galloway is such an oppurtunistic, unprincipled slimebag. Useful idiots I believe they're called? You can almost see the puppet strings.

    You ought to youtube George Galloway impression of a cat on Big Brother, if you havent already  - its sick  vomit

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  • all UK members - Channel 4 Documentary Available to watch now!
     Reply #18 - May 18, 2015, 02:57 PM

    Bump.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
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