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  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #240 - March 22, 2013, 09:29 PM

    Sach ka Safar Ep # 51 Pakistan Railway Part 1  to  part4

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjTo00NI-QI

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbaMAi1JJoI

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ9INKx_gYw

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfoYClyfXaY

    Country needs Musharaff., or some one like Imran Khan....Railways were not like this in 2002...

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #241 - March 23, 2013, 10:14 AM

    MJ Akbar of India  hits hard  at Pakistan..   And it is difficult to find holes in his talk .... His book   "Tinderbox: The Past and Future of Pakistan"  sounds like very good book



    click the picture and read a bit of book...........

    He discusses that book In Canada

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEiTqEbaw0A

    He discusses that book In Malaysia
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzGgzxxNbJI

    And he discusses that book in India
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Io9odHUxN6o

    lucky he didn't discuss the book in Pakistan....

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #242 - March 25, 2013, 12:41 PM

    Musharraf returns to Pakistan

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USSbK0a9w0o

    Pakistan is in Perfect Mess....Hope it comes out and forms a stable government at the end of May....



    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #243 - March 25, 2013, 11:27 PM

    Inside Story: Pakistan's Pervez Musharraf: Risking it all?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nOOArS9uQc


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw5BaTb_PmA

    Boy look at that guy.. How fluent English he speaks... And he is Mr. Taliban..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #244 - April 04, 2013, 01:40 PM

    Well Elections are here in Land of pure.. And these are make or break elections.. It is indeed the most important election in the history of Pakistan.  The  election commission of Pakistan  2013  seem to have all the powers  to omit the names of the  candidates of different parties and it appears some of the rules are made in 7thcentury in ARABIAN BEDOUIN   DESERT

    Any ways let us see how this  ECP   is going to conduct the elections in 2013., We can read some of those rules of ECP  at  ecp.gov.pk

    Final Electoral Rolls 2012 (Voter Stats as on 20th March 2013)
    Province / Area.................Male Voters.................Female Voters.................Total Voters
    Balochistan ...........................1,922,628.......................1,422,439...........................3,345,067
    FATA .........................................1,153,073 .......................596,258 ...........................1,749,331
    Federal Area ...........................330,777 ...........................283,399 ...........................614,176
    Khyber Pakhtun Khwa ........7,049,265 ........................5,261,736  ......................12,311,001
    Punjab .......................................27,624,870 ......................21,380,771 ......................49,005,641
    Sindh  ........................................10,335,800 ......................8,377,773 .........................18,713,573
    Total  ...........................................48,416,413 ...................37,322,376 ...........................85,738,789

    it is clear with 49 million voters... Punjab will make or break Politics of Pakistan...

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #245 - April 04, 2013, 02:06 PM

    It looks likely that Sharif will be back in power again, as much as that makes one want to despair. Getting exiled for corruption apparently isn't enough to stop you from getting the top job again.

    And good to see you again, yeez, you old rascal  Smiley

    At evening, casual flocks of pigeons make
    Ambiguous undulations as they sink,
    Downward to darkness, on extended wings. - Stevens
  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #246 - April 04, 2013, 02:15 PM

    It looks likely that Sharif will be back in power again, as much as that makes one want to despair. Getting exiled for corruption apparently isn't enough to stop you from getting the top job again.

    And good to see you again, yeez, you old rascal  Smiley

    hellooo  z10.. just for these elections i am going to be young  ....2month old.... and i will be a momin... Cheesy

    Well I am not sure about that .. One of the Sharif's candidate Ayaz Amir renowned columnist for the past 30 years or so, His  nomination is rejected by ECP..

    Reject the nominations of some 50 winning candidates any party can loose..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #247 - April 04, 2013, 04:17 PM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U56MnmmN0c
  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #248 - April 04, 2013, 06:18 PM


     That is all good from Ahmed Rashid  but no one asked a simple question .. On the role of Islam in turning Pakistan's  60s society in to baboons of Islam...

    Ahmed Rashid is not reading news ., if he would have seen yesterday news.. he will not say  "Afg/Pak Taliban baboons are tired"..   here is the yesterday news..

    Taliban storm Afghan court, killing 44 in bid to free insurgents on trial

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2AdaTE4CeU

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #249 - April 05, 2013, 08:34 AM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntIGMB4Q_Vg

    And that discussion is about  the Election Commission  rejecting the nomination papers of renowned columnist and Pakistan Muslim League – Nawaz (PML-N) leader Ayaz Amir ‘for writing against the ideology of Pakistan’ in his columns..

    Now the problem is about  ideology of Pakistan’ .   What is it?   And that problem goes straight in to  the constitution of Pakistan, Islam being the  state religion  hence Islamic rules  must be followed by all those who are contesting elections in Pakistan. And here is the constitution of Pakistan which is in fact made in 1973 by Mr. Bhutto who was Pakistan's prime minster and was hanged by a general. Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq.   Well Bhutto's Ghost, In fact Ghost of Islam is hunting Pakistan since its birth..

    Any ways let us read a bit of The Constitution of Pakistan from pakistani.org that is operating since 12th April, 1973 after the birth of Bangladesh..  here are Islamic nuggets in it..
    Quote
    http://www.pakistani.org/pakistan/constitution/preamble.html

    .....Whereas sovereignty over the entire Universe belongs to Almighty Allah alone, and the authority to be exercised by the people of Pakistan within the limits prescribed by Him is a sacred true.....

    .............Wherein the Muslims shall be enabled to order their lives in the individual and collective spheres in accordance with the teachings and requirements of Islam as set out in the Holy Quran and Sunnah.....................


    Quote
    http://www.pakistani.org/pakistan/constitution/part1.html _ PART-1

    2.    Islam to be State religion :   Islam shall be the State religion of Pakistan.

     6.    High treason.
    [4A][(1)   Any person who abrogates or subverts or suspends or holds in abeyance, or attempts or conspires to abrogate or subvert or suspend or hold in abeyance, the Constitution by use of force or show of force or by any other unconstitutional means shall be guilty of high treason.]
    (2)    Any person aiding or abetting [4B][or collaborating] the acts mentioned in clause (1) shall likewise be guilty of high treason.
    [4C][(2A)   An act of high treason mentioned in clause (1) or clause (2) shall not be validated by any court including the Supreme Court and a High Court.]
    (3)    [5] [Majlis-e-Shoora (Parliament)] shall by law provide for the punishment of persons found guilty of high treason.


    20.    Freedom to profess religion and to manage religious institutions.
    Subject to law, public order and morality:-

    (a)    every citizen shall have the right to profess, practise and propagate his religion; and
    (b)    every religious denomination and every sect thereof shall have the right to establish, maintain and manage its religious institutions.

    Right there is a problem in Pakistan's Constitution..  

    How can it be a state where Islam is  the religion,   where all people and rulers must follow accordance with the teachings and requirements of Islam as set out in the Holy Quran and Sunnah and,  and every citizen  in the state shall have the right to profess, practice and propagate his religion;  ??

    That is impossible..  Any way we will go through these Islamic nuggets from the constitution of Pakistan  during this election time.. But the Election Commission in 2013  rejecting  the nomination papers of renowned columnist   Ayaz Amir is because .. apparently he wrote somewhere that he drank Alcohol...,  I am not sure where , but he wrote 1000s of articles for the past 30 years..

    Pathetic idiots and pathetic rules.,   Drink beer you can not contest elections in Pakistan.......  and that is how  Islamic tentacles grow in to politics,  Islam's another name is Politics in the name of allah with the rules that you read in Quran/Sunnah/hadith  yadi yadi bull shit.........   Allah knows the best but  fools don't know that......




    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #250 - April 05, 2013, 01:45 PM

    Musharraf's nomination papers for Pakistan elections  in Kasur  Punjab province has been rejected says news

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui3f-GwUuRY

    Quote
    ...........The former president’s electoral future appeared to be growing bleaker as, earlier on Friday, the returning officer in Kasur, an agricultural and industrial town in Punjab province, rejected his nomination papers for the elections. A local lawyer, Javed Kasuri Advocate, had raised objections over the Musharraf’s candidacy for the NA-139 constituency, arguing that he does not qualify to contest elections under Article 62, 63 of the constitution.

    The returning officer, Mohammad Saleem, accepted the objections and rejected the former dictator’s nomination paper. Aasia Ishaque, information secretary for Musharraf’s All Pakistan Muslim League, said the ruling would be challenged. Musharraf had filed papers to contest the general elections from four seats, including Karachi, Islamabad, Chitral and Kasur...........


    this game of rejection based on Islamic Sharia in Land of pure just started .. I wonder  how many contesting members of Pakistan parliament get disqualified   if Pakistan election commission STRICTLY APPLIES  those rules of  Article 62, 63 of the constitution .  I bet even Muhammad Ali Jinnah  who fought for Pakistan will get disqualified  onArticle 62, 63 of the constitution...

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #251 - April 05, 2013, 03:38 PM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYNNpJxYInU

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHMIp-KfKUw

    stupid fools.. stupid election commission  stupid rules.. stupid country..

     what kind of questions are they to figure out who is fit or who is not fit to fight elections..?

    How many chapters are there in Quran?............... Is it a qualified question of an election office to ask a candidate fighting elections??..

     

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #252 - April 05, 2013, 09:52 PM

    well the word comes out of horse mouth... The secretary  of Election commission of Pakistan  Mr. Ishtiaq Ahmed Khan  This man that too without BEARD  says



    Quote
    ISLAMABAD: Article 62 of the Constitution empowers Returning Officers to ask religious questions as the said article clearly stated the candidate must have adequate knowledge of Islam, said Secretary ECP Ishtiaq Ahmed Khan on Friday.

    Speaking to media representatives, he said that Returning officers and District Returning Officers are functioning independently and the Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP) is issuing no directions to them.

    “As per law, the election commission cannot interfere in the affairs of judiciary. Returning Officers, District Returning officers are acting on their own. Scrutiny of the nomination papers is their duty under the constitution,” he said.

    Khan said the ROs and DROs were free in asking questions and the ECP had nothing to do with their conduct, adding that the returning officers were asked to supervise elections on the recommendations of political parties...


    I wonder now,  whether this fellow read that Article 62 and 63 of the Constitution of Pakistan.. And I wonder whether this clean shaven infidel looking Secretory of ECP has enough background of Islam?  If he has., Where is your beard?

    Stupid questions and stupid fools....

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #253 - April 07, 2013, 07:30 AM



    Former President General (retf) Pervez Musharraf’s nomination papers for elections were rejected on Sunday,  says news

    Quote
    The returning officer of the Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP) rejected the papers on the basis of Article 62 and 63 of the Constitution.  Musharraf’s spokesperson, Aasia Ishaque, told Dawn.com that the former military ruler refused to appear before the returning officer at the time of filing the nomination papers because he said the objections against his candidature were flimsy and vague.

    Ishaque further added that Musharraf will be appealing the rejection of the nomination papers in front of the election tribunal. Musharraf had also filed nomination papers for NA-32 Chitral, NA-48 Islamabad and NA-139 Kasur. However, his papers for Kasur were also rejected earlier this week when Maulana Javid Kasuri, a leader of Jamaat-i-Islaami, raised objections against his candidature.

    The Supreme Court will also hear a petition, accusing Musharraf of treason, on Monday. The petition has been filed by the Lahore High Court Bar Association accusing the former military ruler of subverting the Constitution.
    .........................


    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #254 - April 09, 2013, 01:26 AM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjR-vpjGLSA

    Future of Pakistan from a Pakistanphobe from a Canadian .....

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #255 - April 18, 2013, 01:29 PM

    Facing Arrest, Musharraf Flees Courtroom in Pakistan  says New York Times

    Quote
    ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — The former military ruler of Pakistan, Pervez Musharraf, fled a courtroom here in the capital on Thursday, making a dramatic escape after a judge revoked his bail over a case dating to his nine years in power.  Television footage showed Mr. Musharraf being jostled as his security detail pushed through the court precinct after the hearing, then quickly driving away in a convoy of sport-utility vehicles as angry lawyers chased behind.

    The escape was the latest twist in Mr. Musharraf’s quixotic bid to return to Pakistani politics. It was the first time in Pakistan’s history that a former army chief faced potential imprisonment, which analysts said could open a new rift between the courts and the military.


    well you can watch that escape video in tubes below..

    Quote



    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #256 - May 07, 2013, 02:53 PM

    Imran falls off stage at Lahore rally; receives head injuries

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaTTuFJQ7Os

    Imran Khan's  party is filled with idiots  and he is surrounded by fools.. one guy can do nothing there...


    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #257 - May 07, 2013, 03:20 PM

    From the video, it looks like the guy holding on to Imran Khan lost his balance and fell down, pulling down IK and 3-4 other people with him. So many people in such a congested space on a lifter, what the eff were they thinking?
  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #258 - May 07, 2013, 03:39 PM


    Hope he's OK

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #259 - May 07, 2013, 07:17 PM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dV7cUGcj2mY

    two high school drop outs.. one from Pakistan and other from AMRIKA  talks about Pakistan.. both are supposed to be self appointed  think tanks and Security analysts on Indian subcontinent Islamic politics.. .. that American  fellow predicts in in jang on Pak elections..

    Quote
    ....I’ve just completed my race-by-race analysis of the 272 contested National Assembly races. Here are my predictions: The PML-N will win 110 seats. The PPPP will win 66. The MQM will win 20. The JUI-F will win 16. The PTI will win 11. The ANP will win eight. The PML-Q will win six. The JI and the PML-F will each win four seats. Nine seats will be won by smaller parties and 18 by independents...

    The writer is an analyst with the Centre for Security and Science, US. He monitored the 2008 elections in Pakistan.

    .[/quote]  well let me rewrite those predicted election results..  the results are  just a week away..

    PML-N Nawaz Sharif  ............... 110 seats
    PPPP Zardari ....................................66 seats
    MQM Altaf Hussian.........................20 seats
    JUI-F ....................................................16. seats
    PTI Imran Khan ...........................11 seats
    JI.............................................................4  seats
    PML-F....................................................4  seats
    Splinter parties ..................................9 seats
    Independents ....................................18 seats...
    JUI-F .....................................................11 seats
    ANP ......................................................8 seats
    PML-Q ..................................................6 seats

    well if Imran wins only 11 seats, then north eastern part of Pakistan will join Pashtun nation..
     
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-T-Jd2avJ8

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #260 - July 06, 2013, 08:43 PM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZS9UkRYqx9Q

    Imran the latest interview

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #261 - July 07, 2013, 01:42 PM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4U0CHLVc6W4

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #262 - July 07, 2013, 06:19 PM

    Country needs Musharaff., or some one like Imran Khan....Railways were not like this in 2002...

    Mr. yeezevee, Looks like you really hate Pakistan. Do you want to finish Pakistan for ever? What Pakistan needs is the seperation of fascistic ideology of Islam from the life of the people. Islam is the bane of Muslim countries. In today's issue of the New York Times, Thomas Friedman said very aptly about Egypt, "there are Egyptians who want to bury the future of the country with the past of Islam." This applies to every Muslim country.

    वासुदैव कुटुम्बकम्
    Entire World is One Family
    سارا سنسار ايک پريوار ہے
  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #263 - July 07, 2013, 06:27 PM

    Mr. yeezevee, Looks like you really hate Pakistan. Do you want to finish Pakistan for ever? What Pakistan needs is the seperation of fascistic ideology of Islam from the life of the people. Islam is the bane of Muslim countries. In today's issue of the New York Times, Thomas Friedman said very aptly about Egypt, "there are Egyptians who want to bury the future of the country with the past of Islam." This applies to every Muslim country.

    hello Mr. Ram., those highlighted words from you and from other posts of yours tell  me you love Pakistan more than I love and it appears you would like to eliminate the  "Word" Pakistan itself.
    So do you know anything about Kerma/Karma?  I bet you don't ., Any ways I still think Musharraf or Imran khan would have been far better to guide the country in this critical time than the guy with 4 million dollar watch on his hand..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8F7YkXZcEc

    watch that Ram.. That is for you..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #264 - July 07, 2013, 07:28 PM

    No Mr. yeezevee, I don`t love Pakistan, but I don`t want to see Pakistan destroyed. After all this is the country of my acestors. My father was born in Chaman and my mother was born in Shikarpur, so was I. My all brothers were born in Quetta. You don`t have the experience of living as a non-Muslim in a country with majority Muslim population. But I have the experience of living as a Hindu where 95% of the people are Muslims. The life of a non-Muslims is hell in Pakistan, Egypt and all Muslim countries except in Malaysia. In 1947, Hindus and Sikhs were about 28% of the population in Pakistan, but today, there are only about 1%. That should tell you something.

    वासुदैव कुटुम्बकम्
    Entire World is One Family
    سارا سنسار ايک پريوار ہے
  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #265 - July 09, 2013, 12:33 PM

    No Mr. yeezevee, I don`t love Pakistan, but I don`t want to see Pakistan destroyed. After all this is the country of my acestors. My father was born in Chaman and my mother was born in Shikarpur, so was I. My all brothers were born in Quetta. You don`t have the experience of living as a non-Muslim in a country with majority Muslim population. But I have the experience of living as a Hindu where 95% of the people are Muslims. The life of a non-Muslims is hell in Pakistan, Egypt and all Muslim countries except in Malaysia. In 1947, Hindus and Sikhs were about 28% of the population in Pakistan, but today, there are only about 1%. That should tell you something.

    Mr. Ram  your family migrated to India  and My grand pa, a great guy went in to Islam and Married a wonderful Grand ma A Shiat by birth.,  So you talk to this fool and I will talk to Idiots like this one

    Well talking about land of pure The news .. The good news says Blasphemy accused Rimsha finds refuge in Canada


    Quote
    ISLAMABAD: A Christian girl who was accused of burning Islam's holy book in a case that focused international attention on Pakistan's harsh blasphemy laws was forced to move to Canada over security concerns, her lawyer said Saturday.

    The girl left Pakistan with her parents, three sisters and a brother on March 14, attorney Tahir Naveed Chaudhry said. The Associated Press did not name the girl due to organisational policy. However, a BBC report has named the blasphemy accused as Rimsha Masih.

    A Muslim cleric who lobbied for her release, Tahir Mehmood Ashrafi, said she had been facing threats and was moving constantly. “I am sad that this innocent girl had to leave Pakistan. She had been acquitted by the court, and despite that it was not possible for her to live freely,” he said.

    Canada's immigration service said privacy concerns prevented them from saying whether she was in the country. The girl was arrested in August last year in Islamabad after a Muslim cleric accused her of burning the Quran. The cleric was later accused of fabricating evidence, and the girl was acquitted.

    The case received attention in part because of her young age and questions about her mental abilities. An official medical report at the time put her age at 14 although some of her supporters said she was as young as 11. The medical report also said her mental state did not correspond with her age.

    Even though the case against her was thrown out, people accused of blasphemy in Pakistan are often subject to vigilante justice. Mobs have been known to attack and kill people accused of blasphemy, and two prominent politicians who have discussed changes to the blasphemy laws have been killed.


    See these words
    Quote
    "A Muslim cleric who lobbied for her release, Tahir Mehmood Ashrafi, said she had been facing threats and was moving constantly. “I am sad that this innocent girl had to leave Pakistan. She had been acquitted by the court, and despite that it was not possible for her to live freely,” he said."

      So what all I want say is there are good folks in Islam  and all is not LOST in Pakistan.

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #266 - August 05, 2013, 04:46 PM

    Pakistan warns of more rain after flood deaths hit at least 45 says news

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    KARACHI: Pakistani disaster relief officials issued fresh flood warnings Sunday after the death toll from heavy monsoon rains rose to at least 45 and waters paralysed parts of the largest city Karachi. Flash floods caused by monsoon downpours have inundated some main roads in the sprawling port city and swept away homes in the northwestern province of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa. According to the Provincial Disaster Management Authority, the death toll in Chitral is seven, with 60 homes damaged and 120 partially damaged. Deputy Commissioner Chitral, Shoaib Jadoon said that the power to Upper Chitral was disconnected and Boni Reshun, Mastuj, Garam Chasma have been the worst hit.

    Deputy Commissioner Peshawar, Zaheer Islam confirmed that four people were killed in the city. Cooked food was being provided to the affected people and dewatering machines were installed to pump out water from houses on Charsadda Road and other flood hit areas. Five people were confirmed dead in Tank, while 30 homes were left damaged in Ali Khel and 14 in Darakai. Four people lost their lives in Central Kurram, two in Khyber Agency, and one in Lakki Marwat. More than 300 homes have been swept away or destroyed in a tehsil in Dera Ismail Khan by torrential waters which poured from the Gomal River and heavy rains in South Waziristan. .........

    well read it all at the link

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln2fW0jK1kQ

     




    What a pictures.... Rascals for the past 30 years sitting Islamabad or sitting in PHOREN countries   built no dams and nothing to control yearly floods. It has become a yearly ritual in the country for the past 10 years..


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    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #267 - August 14, 2013, 09:38 PM

    Well today is Land of Pure's Independence day and tomorrow is the independence day of Land of gods and snakes.. on that note I.A Rehman writes with a heading "Jinnah’s new Pakistan is possible"  So question is what Jinnah's Pakistan?  What was the idea behind the sea of migration across some imaginary border on the basis of silly religion??  That speech is still there now web makes it free to here again and again..

     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T_DvWMrHMk

    and let us read some nuggets from  that "Pakistan Zindabad"  of  I.A Rehman
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    The discourse on Pakistan’s political ideal has taken a new turn. Those calling for the establishment of Jinnah’s Pakistan are being challenged with a demand for creating a ‘new Pakistan.’ Essentially, this is a new form of the tussle between secular democrats and advocates of a theocratic dispensation that is as old as the state itself.

    The secularists’ demand for Jinnah’s Pakistan stems from their repudiation of the state’s drift towards a religious one. They argue that the increasing role of religion in politics, law-making, judicial policies, educational curricula and discrimination against minority religious communities, and now campaigns to exterminate smaller Muslim sects, are in total violation of the Quaid-i-Azam’s vision of Pakistan. According to them he wanted the state to be a democratic polity.

    The main features of this state were as follows
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    : religion was a matter of citizens’ personal belief, it had nothing to do with the business of the state; all people living within the state’s boundaries were equal members of a new nation formed on the basis of common citizenship; they were to live under a constitution framed by their own representatives (that is, a man-made code); the form of government was to be a people’s democracy; the foremost duty of the state was going to be protection of the lives and property of all citizens and promotion of their welfare; and in the area of external policy Pakistan was to abide by the principle of goodwill for all and malice towards none. The Quaid’s declaration that Pakistan would not be a theocracy was unequivocal and free from any ambiguities.


    These outlines of Pakistan’s political structure and its orientation were derived in the main from Jinnah’s foundation-laying address to the Constituent Assembly on August 11, 1947 when he was speaking about a state whose birth way only three days away and not in the context of his campaign for Pakistan. Other points had been taken from the Quaid’s policy speeches during the Muslim League movement, statements made on the eve of independence and his messages to international audiences afterward.

    Jinnah’s successors in power paid scant attention to his political testament. The reasons could be diverse. Some of them might not have shared their leader’s ideal of a secular democracy – and this could have been one of the reasons for the attempt to suppress/censor his August 11 address. They might have considered it unsafe to stir the hornet’s nest by provoking the religious lobby. Or the factional conflicts within the ruling party that emerged while the Quaid was still alive became so intense after his death that the ideals of Pakistan were cast aside. The failure of the leadership to start building Pakistan along the lines suggested by Jinnah created’ space for the religious lobby to lay siege to the state.

    This lobby was spearheaded by Maulana Shabbir Ahmad Usmani, who had broken away from the pro-Congress Jamiat Ulema-i-Hind and had backed the demand for Pakistan, and some prominent leaders of the Barelvi school of thought. They argued that as the demand for Pakistan was made on the basis of the religious identity of the Muslims of India – or more correctly the Muslims who were in majority in some provinces of India — Pakistan had to be an Islamic state. They also quoted in support of their demand passages from the statements of the Muslim League leaders, including the Quaid-i-Azam, to the effect that Pakistan’s polity would be Islamic in substance and character. A surprise entry into this lobby was the founder of Jamaat Islami who had paid little respect to the Islamic protestations of the League leaders and had resolutely opposed the demand for Pakistan on the ground that it could not be an Islamic state.

    The ruling elite chose to yield to the challengers without a fight and came out with the Objectives Resolution as a bulwark to protect their power base that had become vulnerable for lack of democratic sanction. The resolution made the religious lobby stronger and the colonial-model state weaker by a wider margin
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    . The signal of the state’s surrender to the advocates of theocracy led to the emergence of modern looking middle class theorists who helped the religious lobby by digging up passages from Jinnah’s speeches in which he had referred to an Islamic polity as the ideal of Pakistan, or democracy’s being present in the blood of Muslims. They claimed that Jinnah had made these statements both before and after independence and that his August 11 address had been superseded by his speeches at a Karachi reception and his talk before a lawyers gathering. One of these middle class scholars of history went so far trying to prove that Jinnah’s August 11 speech did not represent Pakistan’s ideal as to suggest that the old and sick speaker had become senile.

    All these analysts who laboured to show that Jinnah used more words in favour of an Islamic system than for a modern democracy chose to ignore two important facts. First, that the Quaid-i-Azam rejected theocracy directly and explicitly, and we do not find a similar rejection of elective democracy in any of his speeches and writings. Secondly, the Indian Muslims’ thinking during the colonial period admitted of no conflict between Islam and democracy. A common theme was that democracy was Islam’s gift to humankind.
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    A number of Muslim political leaders of the 20th century, who were also firm believers in Islam – Abul Kalam Azad, Obaidullah Sindhi, Hasrat Mohani, Hakim Ajmal Khan et al – believed in a pluralist democracy that could only be secular. Iqbal also supported the idea of a sovereign parliament which was qualified to perform ijma, the community’s right to interpret Islamic law when Quran, Hadith and Qias were silent on a point. (Later on a strong group, including Jamal Abdul Nasir and Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, argued that socialism was in accord with Islam.)

    Pakistan’s rulers during the first decade of independence did not confront the theocratic challengers with the arguments ready at hand. Not only that, they hounded the secular democrats, defenders of civil liberties, trade unionists, and progressive writers/journalists as if they were a pestilence. And when they joined the military pacts designed to fight the socialist bloc they not only handed over the space for debate to conservative and half-baked clerics, they also condemned the people to social and intellectual regression. The process has not ended.

    The conservative religious lobby dismissed Jinnah’s creed of democracy, secularism and equal status for members of religious minorities but they did not abandon him. A classic example is furnished by Jamaat Islami. Its leaders claimed to have been converted to the concept of Pakistan once the Objectives Resolution was adopted as, according to them, the state had become Islamic. Attempts were made to erase references against the Pakistan demand from the party’s revered texts. At one stage one of the Jamaat’s front-rank leaders claimed that his party had contributed to the formulation of the Pakistan demand. A few years ago the party tried to project Jinnah as favourably disposed towards the Muslim Brotherhood on the basis of a letter he had written to Hasan-al-Banna, conveniently ignoring the fact that the Quaid had a habit of writing a courteous response to all letters of sympathy addressed to him.

    It was not until Gen. Zia’s arrival as the country’s absolute ruler that the theocratic elements decided that elimination of Jinnah and his politics for the political discourse was necessary for their capture of the state. While decisively changing the constitution in favour of a religious polity, Gen. Zia tried to promote Iqbal as the country’s father figure in place of Jinnah on the assumption that Iqbal’s efforts to promote Islamic law could be used to further his dictatorial regime’s designs to impose on the people its version of Islam. This was nothing more than crude exploitation of Iqbal’s name.

    Over the past few years, the modest-looking movement for establishment of Jinnah’s Pakistan has been countered with a drive to debunk the two-nation theory and condemn Jinnah for misleading the Indian Muslims with the call for the partition of India, for being responsible for the partition bloodbaths, and for everything wrong that has happened to the people of Pakistan.

    A typical example of Jinnah-bashing is a book written and published by a Lahore lawyer who condemns Jinnah and Agha Khan as ‘Rafzi’ (pejorative term for Shias) agents of British imperialism, and holds Jinnah responsible not only for the killing of Muslim men and rape of women in 1947 but also for establishing a state that can end neither energy shortage or the curse of unemployment. Jinnah’s worst crime in the eyes of the author is that he handed over India to the Hindus and thus deprived the Pakistani Muslims’ of their right and the possibility to convert India’s entire Hindu population to Islam. He even suggests that had Pakistan not been created the Muslims might have already become a majority community in the subcontinent.

    One would not have taken notice of this compound of megalomania and infantile disorder but for the fact that the book has obviously found readers – its sixth edition is on sale now – and that it fits in with the scheme of militant organisations, foreign–controlled as well as indigenous ones. It is possible that the militant organisations that are out to convert the Pakistani Muslims to their versions of extremist faith consider Jinnah’s ideal of Pakistan an obstacle to their jihadist ambitions.

    Now, there is nothing new about discovering flaws in the two-nation theory or in Jinnah’s leadership or exposing the Muslim League’s or Pakistani rulers’ lack of political capital. The British role in pampering the Muslim League as a counterweight to the Congress Party has been examined by quite a few critics. There are people who maintain that partition did not solve the problems that had been created by the various communities’ collective memory of their history and communalisation of politics. A section of secular democrats maintains that there are many matters on which blind imitation of Jinnah’s actions will amount to living in a past that may not be relevant any longer.

    If a reassessment of Jinnah’s place in history were based on fact and reason and the objective was a sincere effort to enable the people of Pakistan to resolve their present crises and plan for a better future, one would have welcomed this trend as a proof of the people’s growing maturity, of their capacity to deal with grave matters without concession to emotions. Much of the criticism does not qualify for this distinction. This is not to suggest that Jinnah could never be wrong. But his actions should be judged in the context of his times. The Indians accuse Gandhi and Nehru of serious blunders. That has not stopped them from looking forward. The issue before the people is how to meet the challenge of the present. Many nations were born in worse circumstances than Pakistan and have stood the trial of times.

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    The position now is that there is considerable agreement on building a new Pakistan. The point of contention is that the professional clerics, especially the ‘born yesterday’ ‘jihadists, wish to exclude Jinnah’s ideals and principles from the polity, that is, they reject the man-made constitution in preference for Sharia, which is also man-made, they reject parliament’s right to make laws, they deny the principle of federation, they oppose women’s rights and condemn non-Muslim Pakistanis to a second class status. Their objective in assailing Jinnah is to turn Pakistan into a medieval state where reason must give way to bigotry.


    Those who wish to save or reconstruct Jinnah’s Pakistan will do well to avoid following the Quaid’s actions that were determined by time and circumstance. Pakistan has already moved beyond Jinnah’s concept in certain areas – today’s federation is vastly different from what it was in the Quaid’s life, the Prime Minister is no longer subject to the President’s whim, and the planning of external relations is not as simple as in 1948. ............

    well i need to edit it to read only nuggets.. do it later..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #268 - August 18, 2013, 12:53 AM

    Maulana diesel  Choorrrrrr

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXLJoE0tgNg

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAqGMpqHtuY

    Rascals like that ruined everything.. whatever little good is there in Islam....  Clean shave them and  put them to clean the gutter of Peshawar

    ANP leader Najma Hanif gunned down in Peshawar  says news


    Police sources said unknown gunmen opened fire at Najma Hanif after breaking into her home just before midnight on Friday. – Photo courtesy Zahir Shah Sherazi

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    She was gunned down at her residence in phase one of the upscale Hyatabad neighbourhood of Peshawar. Police sources told Dawn.com that unknown gunmen opened fire at Najma Hanif after breaking into her home just before midnight on Friday. The attackers managed to escape the site unhurt and unidentified, they added. In-charge of police unit at Hyatabad Medical Complex, Ismail khan has confirmed that Najma Hanif was hit in the head and face and was received dead at the hospital.


    It is pertinent to mention that her husband Hanif Jadoon, who also was an ANP leader, was killed along with his son and guard in a suicide bomb attack in July 2011. The ANP leader was a candidate for a provincial assembly seat reserved for women in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa. Her body has been sent to her native town in Swabi district. ANP chief Asfandyar Wali has condemned the brutal killing saying sacrifices of Najma’s family will always be remembered.


    That is how Islam and Islamic politics work... call the people non-Muslims, juice,, foreign agents and kill them


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    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #269 - August 20, 2013, 03:54 PM

    Musharraf charged with Benazir's murder  says news




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    RAWALPINDI: Former military ruler General (retd) Pervez Musharraf was indicted on three counts Tuesday in Rawalpindi's anti-terrorism court (ATC) over the 2007 murder of ex-prime minister Benazir Bhutto. Musharraf was also produced in the ATC amidst tight security during today’s hearing of the case headed by ATC judge Habibur Rehman.

    A challan was read out against the former president and six others nominated in Benazir’s murder during the hearing. “He was charged with murder, criminal conspiracy for murder and facilitation for murder,” public prosecutor Chaudhry Azhar told AFP at the ATC in Rawalpindi hearing the case.

    The six accused persons include former City Police Officer (CPO) of Rawalpindi Saud Aziz, the then SP Khurram Shahzad, Hasnain Gul, Rafaqat Hussain, Sher Zaman and Abdul Rasheed respectively.

    Musharraf and the accused men denied the charges. The court ordered the authorities to produce all the defendants in a hearing fixed for August 27 as it subsequently adjourned the matter to the said date for evidence to be brought.

    Following the adjournment, the former president returned to his Chak Shahzad residence, which had been declared sub-jail. Benazir Bhutto was assassinated in a gun-and-bomb attack outside Rawalpindi’s Liaquat Bagh on December 27, 2007 while Musharraf was president. She was killed after addressing an election campaign rally in the city.


    yes that guy  was a president when Benazir Bhutto was killed ., He should be held  responsible to every murder in the country under his presidency ., what is new in that ? and what is next?

    LAND OF PURE COURTS WORK IN A MYSTERIOUS WAY.,  Pervez Musharraf was foolish not put the former Prime ministers Bhutto and  Nawaz Shariff on trial for  some murders in the country  and send them to gallows.. .  

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    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
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