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  • Question: Niqabs/Burqa should be..
  • Allowed - 12 (23.5%)
  • Partially Banned - 23 (45.1%)
  • Banned - 16 (31.4%)
  • Total Voters: 51

 Topic: Ban Niqab?

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  • Re: Ban Niqab?
     Reply #180 - July 17, 2010, 11:37 AM
    Quote from: Meredith on July 17, 2010, 11:28 AM
    which will no doubt lead to them falling more in line within their own community and refusing to integrate into mainstream


    this is the first time i've agree with you. But really, isn't the problem that this already happening now?
    If you ask me to define anything i will slap you with my pimp hand and make you cry like a biatch.

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  • Re: Ban Niqab?
     Reply #181 - July 17, 2010, 11:37 AM
    Quote from: Maya on July 17, 2010, 11:28 AM
    Well I don't care who does what, where and when as long as it doesn't encroach on ME.   As long as nobody tries to force their views and cultures on me I'm not really bothered what anyone else gets up to.

    Wrong or right that's how I feel.


    That's how I feel too, welcome by the way..
    "Modern man's great illusion has been to convince himself that of all that has gone before he represents the zenith of human accomplishment, but can't summon the mental powers to read anything more demanding than emoticons. Fascinating. "

    One very horny Turk I met on the net.
  • Re: Ban Niqab?
     Reply #182 - July 17, 2010, 11:40 AM
    Quote from: Mr X on July 17, 2010, 11:37 AM
    this is the first time i've agree with you. But really, isn't the problem that this already happening now?


    And you think targeting Muslims in a law where infact out of 5 million people only about 2,000 Muslim women wear the niqab is justified?

    This will lead to a rise of isolation and no one should be blamed but France's Government. The Moderates just got weakened.
    If anything France's Muslim population is more integrated than UK's (or rather used to be more integrated, I doubt they are anymore)
    Blind faith is an ironic gift to return to the Creator of human intelligence

  • Re: Ban Niqab?
     Reply #183 - July 17, 2010, 11:50 AM
    Thanks for the welcome, just doing some catching up then I'll post some more.    Smiley


    "The greatest general is not the one who can take the most cities or spill the most blood. The greatest general is the one who can take Heaven and Earth without waging the battle." ~ Sun Tzu

  • Re: Ban Niqab?
     Reply #184 - July 17, 2010, 11:55 AM
    Quote from: Meredith on July 17, 2010, 11:40 AM
    And you think targeting Muslims in a law where infact out of 5 million people only about 2,000 Muslim women wear the niqab is justified?

    source?

    Quote from: Meredith on July 17, 2010, 11:40 AM
    If anything France's Muslim population is more integrated than UK's (or rather used to be more integrated, I doubt they are anymore)


    right becasue the riots and ghettos really help.

    If you ask me to define anything i will slap you with my pimp hand and make you cry like a biatch.

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  • Re: Ban Niqab?
     Reply #185 - July 17, 2010, 11:59 AM
    Quote from: Mr X on July 17, 2010, 11:55 AM
    source?

    right becasue the riots and ghettos really help.


    Have you heard of French Muslims born and bred blowing up a train in France? No? Then France should hush.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10517707
    Quote
    There are estimated to be only about 2,000 women wearing the full veil in France, with most of these in the niqab rather than the burka, although the bill is opposed by many of France's five million Muslims.

    Blind faith is an ironic gift to return to the Creator of human intelligence

  • Re: Ban Niqab?
     Reply #186 - July 17, 2010, 12:01 PM
     Sigh! why does it always get reduced 'Right' and 'Left' and other labels. For goodness sake where's the centre?


    The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
                                   Thomas Paine

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  • Re: Ban Niqab?
     Reply #187 - July 17, 2010, 12:03 PM
    Quote from: hypocrucifier on July 17, 2010, 12:01 PM
    Sigh! why does it always get reduced 'Right' and 'Left' and other labels. For goodness sake where's the centre?


    True. The position and actions that is commonly associated with fascism is rarely right or left.
    Blind faith is an ironic gift to return to the Creator of human intelligence

  • Re: Ban Niqab?
     Reply #188 - July 17, 2010, 12:09 PM
    Quote from: Meredith on July 17, 2010, 11:59 AM
    Have you heard of French Muslims born and bred blowing up a train in France? No? Then France should hush.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10517707


    so your source doesn't provide a source. way to check the facts. On one side you vilify the government for letting it get to this stage and then criticise it when it provides a solution.

    that's your barometer of successful integration if it's own citizens don't blow up a train?

    You're talking nonsense. absolute drivel.

    EDIT: that bbc site did provide one useful thing, a visual (cartoon!) representation of Muslim head dress, so i can definitely say Ban the Burka
    If you ask me to define anything i will slap you with my pimp hand and make you cry like a biatch.

    Nick Naylor: "I didn't have to. I proved that you're wrong, and if you're wrong I'm right."~ Thank you for Smoking

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  • Re: Ban Niqab?
     Reply #189 - July 17, 2010, 12:15 PM
    I vilify any Government who walks all over Freedom of expression and yet you provide no source that contradicts it. I can bring you a thousand which estimates the same.  Google it billy

    Oh good god, it is like talking to a brick wall.
    That is not my barometer but the mere fact that French Muslim population has such a larger population than the British one but has not got homegrown terrorism demonstrates it is more integrate.
    Would you like me to explain more S-L-O-W-L-Y.

    Its like the gun debate all over again.

    Do you support Muslim countries cutting off the freedom of expression of Non Muslims? Simple Yes or No question but it'll sure tell me alot by your answer
    Blind faith is an ironic gift to return to the Creator of human intelligence

  • Re: Ban Niqab?
     Reply #190 - July 17, 2010, 12:34 PM
    I estimate it to be about 20,000 women, if i get a couple of bloggers to post this around does that then become offical? empirical evidence and stastics are not based on the wisdom of the crowds or peoples artibiatry estimates which have propogated through the internet. I undertand though. you base your facts on hearsay and take that as gospel. thats fine but dont present them to me as evidence.

    Do you honestly beilve that there are no homegrown french terrorist cells or suspects?
    I guess this guardian report http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/jan/12/alqaida.france doesnt fit in with your world view. thats fine feel free to ignore it

    Do you support Muslim countries cutting off the freedom of expression of Non Muslims? They do already.

    BRITAIN IS NOT A MUSLIM COUNTRY.
    If you ask me to define anything i will slap you with my pimp hand and make you cry like a biatch.

    Nick Naylor: "I didn't have to. I proved that you're wrong, and if you're wrong I'm right."~ Thank you for Smoking

    Perspective
  • Re: Ban Niqab?
     Reply #191 - July 17, 2010, 12:43 PM
    Quote from: Meredith on July 17, 2010, 12:15 PM
    has not got homegrown terrorism demonstrates it is more integrate.




    Lack of integration does not solely manifest itself as terrorism, terrorism is simply one of the worst consequences...
    "Modern man's great illusion has been to convince himself that of all that has gone before he represents the zenith of human accomplishment, but can't summon the mental powers to read anything more demanding than emoticons. Fascinating. "

    One very horny Turk I met on the net.
  • Re: Ban Niqab?
     Reply #192 - July 17, 2010, 12:45 PM
    Quote from: Mr X on July 17, 2010, 12:34 PM
    Do you support Muslim countries cutting off the freedom of expression of Non Muslims? They do already.


    So that is a Yes, you do support Muslim countries limiting Non Muslims freedoms then.

    Well then good
    At least you are consistent in wanting to restrict freedoms for everyone rather than one group Afro
    Blind faith is an ironic gift to return to the Creator of human intelligence

  • Re: Ban Niqab?
     Reply #193 - July 17, 2010, 12:55 PM
    i'll also stop getting down your throat your inability to recognise that you're wrong in the face of  evidence to the contrary leads me to believe a debate with you is as useful as tits on a bulls




    If you ask me to define anything i will slap you with my pimp hand and make you cry like a biatch.

    Nick Naylor: "I didn't have to. I proved that you're wrong, and if you're wrong I'm right."~ Thank you for Smoking

    Perspective
  • Re: Ban Niqab?
     Reply #194 - July 17, 2010, 12:58 PM
    Hey, I have the greatest of fondness for those who have no respect for freedoms and fascists and authoritarians who like singling out religious groups.

    Without people like you those of us who oppose your ideology would never be able to value hard won freedoms and hold it as important and precious as it is.

    Those who would sacrifice freedom for temporary security deserve neither
     Afro

     But hey, don't worry. I'll remember your position on limiting Muslim women rights in the West the next time you whine about rights in the Muslim world.
    Blind faith is an ironic gift to return to the Creator of human intelligence

  • Re: Ban Niqab?
     Reply #195 - July 17, 2010, 01:01 PM
    Quote from: Meredith on July 17, 2010, 12:58 PM
    Hey, I have the greatest of fondness for those who have no respect for freedoms and fascists and authoritarians who like singling out religious groups.

    Without people like you those of us who oppose your ideology would never be able to value hard won freedoms and hold it as important and precious as it is.

    Those who would sacrifice freedom for temporary security deserve neither
     Afro

     But hey, don't worry. I'll remember your position on limiting Muslim women rights in the West the next time you whine about rights in the Muslim world.


    Seriously. I started taking my clothes off while reading this post. I'm so ready..
  • Re: Ban Niqab?
     Reply #196 - July 17, 2010, 01:01 PM
    Quote from: Mr X on July 17, 2010, 12:55 PM
    i'll also stop getting down your throat your inability to recognise that you're wrong in the face of  evidence to the contrary leads me to believe a debate with you is as useful as tits on a bulls


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  • Re: Ban Niqab?
     Reply #197 - July 17, 2010, 01:05 PM
    Quote from: BlackDog on July 17, 2010, 01:01 PM
    Seriously. I started taking my clothes off while reading this post. I'm so ready..


    LOL
    I'm flattered but I doubt you could handle me Wink
    Blind faith is an ironic gift to return to the Creator of human intelligence

  • Re: Ban Niqab?
     Reply #198 - July 17, 2010, 01:08 PM
    Quote from: Meredith on July 17, 2010, 01:05 PM
    LOL
    I'm flattered but I doubt you could handle me Wink


    That's what verse 4:34 is there for. To put  a handle on you Grin

     dance


    //joke btw
  • Re: Ban Niqab?
     Reply #199 - July 17, 2010, 01:08 PM
    Quote from: Meredith on July 17, 2010, 01:05 PM
    LOL
    I'm flattered but I doubt you could handle me Wink


    I never say no to a challenge  Wink
    "Modern man's great illusion has been to convince himself that of all that has gone before he represents the zenith of human accomplishment, but can't summon the mental powers to read anything more demanding than emoticons. Fascinating. "

    One very horny Turk I met on the net.
  • Re: Ban Niqab?
     Reply #200 - July 17, 2010, 01:09 PM
    Quote from: ras111 on July 17, 2010, 01:08 PM
    I never say no to a challenge  Wink


    My thoughts exactly. Although I'm more prone to take that reply as a no tbh. So I'm more likely to prove a girl right by walking away. Unless it's a girl I really, really have to know then I couldn't give a fuck less.
  • Re: Ban Niqab?
     Reply #201 - July 17, 2010, 01:10 PM
    In any case Meredith I iz joking. I just like the way you post.
  • Re: Ban Niqab?
     Reply #202 - July 17, 2010, 01:11 PM
    Quote from: Meredith on July 17, 2010, 01:05 PM
    LOL
    I'm flattered but I doubt you could handle me Wink

    That phrase always works for me...  Shark
    Each of us a failed state in stark relief against the backdrop of the perfect worlds we seek.
    Propagandhi - Failed States
  • Re: Ban Niqab?
     Reply #203 - July 17, 2010, 01:13 PM
    Quote from: BlackDog on July 17, 2010, 01:10 PM
    In any case Meredith I iz joking. I just like the way you post.


    I know sweetie Tongue
    It's nice at least one person likes the way I post lol
    Blind faith is an ironic gift to return to the Creator of human intelligence

  • Re: Ban Niqab?
     Reply #204 - July 17, 2010, 01:18 PM
    Quote from: ras111 on July 17, 2010, 01:08 PM
    I never say no to a challenge  Wink


    Quote from: thinkfree on July 17, 2010, 01:11 PM
    That phrase always works for me...  Shark


    Hm, I never understand that. What is it with males and a challenge?
    Blind faith is an ironic gift to return to the Creator of human intelligence

  • Re: Ban Niqab?
     Reply #205 - July 17, 2010, 01:26 PM
    Quote from: BlackDog on July 17, 2010, 01:09 PM
    My thoughts exactly. Although I'm more prone to take that reply as a no tbh. So I'm more likely to prove a girl right by walking away. Unless it's a girl I really, really have to know then I couldn't give a fuck less.


    No one said anything about doing anything... it was only a statement... capisci adesso  Wink?
    "Modern man's great illusion has been to convince himself that of all that has gone before he represents the zenith of human accomplishment, but can't summon the mental powers to read anything more demanding than emoticons. Fascinating. "

    One very horny Turk I met on the net.
  • Re: Ban Niqab?
     Reply #206 - July 17, 2010, 01:28 PM
    Quote from: Meredith on July 17, 2010, 01:18 PM
    Hm, I never understand that. What is it with males and a challenge?


    Each of us a failed state in stark relief against the backdrop of the perfect worlds we seek.
    Propagandhi - Failed States
  • Re: Ban Niqab?
     Reply #207 - July 17, 2010, 01:29 PM
    Okay I get it.

    Now I really need breakfast
    Blind faith is an ironic gift to return to the Creator of human intelligence

  • Re: Ban Niqab?
     Reply #208 - July 17, 2010, 01:42 PM
    Quote from: ras111 on July 17, 2010, 01:26 PM
    No one said anything about doing anything... it was only a statement... capisci adesso  Wink?


    INTERWEBZ IZ REEL!!!!1

    What does that mean?
  • Re: Ban Niqab?
     Reply #209 - July 17, 2010, 01:49 PM
    'Do you understand now'.. e' in Italiano..
    "Modern man's great illusion has been to convince himself that of all that has gone before he represents the zenith of human accomplishment, but can't summon the mental powers to read anything more demanding than emoticons. Fascinating. "

    One very horny Turk I met on the net.
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