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  • Re: Berbs Blog, much madness within
     Reply #390 - March 30, 2008, 04:59 PM
    surely its the other way around, if he asked then it may not be so bad, but to be sneaky is kinda asking for a slap, is it not?
  • Re: Berbs Blog, much madness within
     Reply #391 - March 30, 2008, 05:08 PM
    Quote from: blossom76 on March 30, 2008, 04:59 PM
    surely its the other way around, if he asked then it may not be so bad, but to be sneaky is kinda asking for a slap, is it not?


    No, being sneaky is trying to not get caught taking it, because if he asked for it he would get thumped.  I've seen that before, people who will pilfer because they can't open their mouth and say 'Can I borrow a fiver' or whatever.  Its weird, but being battered at home seems to cause that kind of low level kleptomania in some people.
    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: Berbs Blog, much madness within
     Reply #392 - March 30, 2008, 05:18 PM
    where does it say he'd get thumped for 'asking'? its an assumption, that I see as holding no bearing on whats been said. And I fail to see how asking is worse than being sneaky, which is how Im reading what your saying.
  • Re: Berbs Blog, much madness within
     Reply #393 - March 30, 2008, 05:21 PM
    Quote from: blossom76 on March 30, 2008, 05:18 PM
    where does it say he'd get thumped for 'asking'? its an assumption, that I see as holding no bearing on whats been said. And I fail to see how asking is worse than being sneaky, which is how Im reading what your saying.


    His mother is violent, blossom.  So its a fair assumption that he has been thumped for asking throughout his childhood.  That's why some people get the mental habit of sneak theivery, and petty pilfering.  They get used to being sneaky in order not to get hit as a child, and the habit sticks.

    Do you get it now?
    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: Berbs Blog, much madness within
     Reply #394 - March 30, 2008, 05:26 PM
    Quote from: Cheetah on March 30, 2008, 05:08 PM
    Quote from: blossom76 on March 30, 2008, 04:59 PM
    surely its the other way around, if he asked then it may not be so bad, but to be sneaky is kinda asking for a slap, is it not?


    No, being sneaky is trying to not get caught taking it, because if he asked for it he would get thumped.  I've seen that before, people who will pilfer because they can't open their mouth and say 'Can I borrow a fiver' or whatever.  Its weird, but being battered at home seems to cause that kind of low level kleptomania in some people.


    This is exactly where it comes from, I knew it as soon as it happened, that is what being raised in that environment does to some people.

    Rather than tell the truth when confronted, an irrational fear takes over them and they blurt out a lie to cover what doesn't even need covering.  My sister is also like this, and because she is so involved with the family, she still drives on this behaviour, having not learnt that truth really is the better way to go.

    I did my best to make him understand that it's in his best interests to be honest with me, and to not sneak around when he can just ask.  He knows now that the next thing means he gets sent hom and he doesn't want that.

    Let's hope this lesson is one he is capable of learning.

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Berbs Blog, much madness within
     Reply #395 - March 30, 2008, 05:27 PM
    Quote from: Cheetah on March 30, 2008, 05:21 PM

    His mother is violent, blossom.  So its a fair assumption that he has been thumped for asking throughout his childhood.  That's why some people get the mental habit of sneak theivery, and petty pilfering.  They get used to being sneaky in order not to get hit as a child, and the habit sticks.

    Do you get it now?


    Precisely how his life has been and why he is the way he is now.  finmad
    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Berbs Blog, much madness within
     Reply #396 - March 30, 2008, 05:37 PM
    Good, I'm glad you gave him another chance.  He's only young after all, maybe he'll learn now he's not in fear of being hit.
    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Funny way I was described
     Reply #397 - April 01, 2008, 03:14 PM
    Apparently I am "like a brother but in a womans body", according to the description I heard my brother telling his friend.  Cheesy

    Now isn't this telling? this friend he was talking to on the phone kept telling him to be less open in what they were discussing because he worried I might be listening, my brother was trying to allay his worry by describing me as like a brother but in a womans body, because obviously I'm guessing a girl can't be as cool as I am.  Roll Eyes

    In order to make his muslim friend see me as somebody worth knowing and relaxing around, I need to be seen as male.  Shocked

    He then launched into a list of the things that made me cool, all punctuated with reassurances that I was like a dude and so therefore "safe"  Cheesy

    Sad really when you think about it, all his friends see me as a tom boy, even though I am very feminine in my dress.

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Funny way I was described
     Reply #398 - April 01, 2008, 07:12 PM
    Quote from: BerberElla on April 01, 2008, 03:14 PM
    Apparently I am "like a brother but in a womans body", according to the description I heard my brother telling his friend.  Cheesy

    Now isn't this telling? this friend he was talking to on the phone kept telling him to be less open in what they were discussing because he worried I might be listening, my brother was trying to allay his worry by describing me as like a brother but in a womans body, because obviously I'm guessing a girl can't be as cool as I am.  Roll Eyes

    In order to make his muslim friend see me as somebody worth knowing and relaxing around, I need to be seen as male.  Shocked

    He then launched into a list of the things that made me cool, all punctuated with reassurances that I was like a dude and so therefore "safe"  Cheesy

    Sad really when you think about it, all his friends see me as a tom boy, even though I am very feminine in my dress.


    That's actually a great compliment...considering what you have explained. It's too bad male muslims distrust females so much...yet that makes it even a greater compliment! He feels he can confide in you....and even tell you things he would tell his closest friends.

    It sounds as though his friends are trusting you too...and so far, his friends seem to be all muslims and male.

    My hope is that he is done being sneaky with you...and that he has learned his lesson, now that appreciates what a great sister he has!
  • Re: Berbs Blog, much madness within
     Reply #399 - April 01, 2008, 09:41 PM
    It's a compliment in one way but an insult in another way. At least he seems to have a high opinion of you, regardless of how he phrases it. It's a start.  Wink
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Berbs Blog, much madness within
     Reply #400 - April 02, 2008, 05:56 AM
    Quote from: osmanthus on April 01, 2008, 09:41 PM
    It's a compliment in one way but an insult in another way. At least he seems to have a high opinion of you, regardless of how he phrases it. It's a start.  Wink


    I could mean that she doesn't act all "girlie"....as in, she doesn't cry if she breaks a fingernail...or she doesn't fuss in the mirror just to go outside...etc...
  • Re: Funny way I was described
     Reply #401 - April 02, 2008, 11:43 AM
    Quote from: Shaneequa on April 01, 2008, 07:12 PM


    That's actually a great compliment...considering what you have explained. It's too bad male muslims distrust females so much...yet that makes it even a greater compliment! He feels he can confide in you....and even tell you things he would tell his closest friends.

    It sounds as though his friends are trusting you too...and so far, his friends seem to be all muslims and male.

    My hope is that he is done being sneaky with you...and that he has learned his lesson, now that appreciates what a great sister he has!


    Oh, I know it's a compliment, but it's just as Os said, it's also an insult to what I value.

    It's not equality if I have to been categorised as "like a brother" to be taken seriously.

    I am flattered by it, but dissappointed at the obstacles and barriers that exist because of my gender.

    Anyway my step mother and father aree demanding the return of their son now, they have sent my sister who is on her way now to come and collect him in the car.

    If he doesn't go back with her they say he will never be welcome in the house again.

    He is 17, I am guessing they have some sort of legal right to remove him if need be?

    He doesn't want to go, he says he prefers it here with me and plus he is still upset and frightened that she tried to stab him as he says.
    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Berbs Blog, much madness within
     Reply #402 - April 02, 2008, 11:47 AM
    I'm not sure but I'd think if he's likely to be stabbed if he goes home then the authorities would have a responsibility there if they forced him to go home.
    Do you want him staying with you?
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Berbs Blog, much madness within
     Reply #403 - April 02, 2008, 11:48 AM
    They have no legal right to force him to live with them at the age of 17.
    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: Berbs Blog, much madness within
     Reply #404 - April 02, 2008, 01:24 PM
    Well, brother has left with my sister, even though he is not pleased about it.

    He knows that if she does anything again, he can come straight back, but I guess he felt to worried to not go back.

    After all if he didn;t go with my sister, my step mother would have just come and physically dragged him off and that is a scene he isn't ready for yet.
    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Berbs Blog, much madness within
     Reply #405 - April 02, 2008, 01:55 PM
    Quote from: BerberElla on April 02, 2008, 01:24 PM
    Well, brother has left with my sister, even though he is not pleased about it.

    He knows that if she does anything again, he can come straight back, but I guess he felt to worried to not go back.

    After all if he didn;t go with my sister, my step mother would have just come and physically dragged him off and that is a scene he isn't ready for yet.


    That is so sad. I wonder what would happen if were to go to the police and report the abuse? Do you think it would help...or make things worse? What is up with British Child Protection?
  • Re: Funny way I was described
     Reply #406 - April 02, 2008, 02:00 PM
    Quote from: BerberElla on April 02, 2008, 11:43 AM
    Quote from: Shaneequa on April 01, 2008, 07:12 PM


    That's actually a great compliment...considering what you have explained. It's too bad male muslims distrust females so much...yet that makes it even a greater compliment! He feels he can confide in you....and even tell you things he would tell his closest friends.

    It sounds as though his friends are trusting you too...and so far, his friends seem to be all muslims and male.

    My hope is that he is done being sneaky with you...and that he has learned his lesson, now that appreciates what a great sister he has!


    Oh, I know it's a compliment, but it's just as Os said, it's also an insult to what I value.

    It's not equality if I have to been categorised as "like a brother" to be taken seriously.

    I am flattered by it, but dissappointed at the obstacles and barriers that exist because of my gender.

    Anyway my step mother and father aree demanding the return of their son now, they have sent my sister who is on her way now to come and collect him in the car.

    If he doesn't go back with her they say he will never be welcome in the house again.

    He is 17, I am guessing they have some sort of legal right to remove him if need be?

    He doesn't want to go, he says he prefers it here with me and plus he is still upset and frightened that she tried to stab him as he says.


    I have been wondering if he has any friends that are not Muslim. Even though he's had 17 years of Islamic indoctrination, I hope he will come out of it...and overcome the Islamic mindset.
  • Re: Berbs Blog, much madness within
     Reply #407 - April 02, 2008, 02:22 PM
    I´m not so sure it´s meant the way Berbs thinks. My prince used to tell me, he had almost a feeling I was a man, the way he could talk to me... only meant, he felt I understood "like one of the mates"... like saying a man understands me "almost like my best girl-friend".
  • Re: Berbs Blog, much madness within
     Reply #408 - April 02, 2008, 10:34 PM
    I like sublime femininity in my women, with seductive and tenderness assertiveness. I don't expect her to have a penis. Which I suspect berbs you might have.
    Left the forum: http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=22997
  • Re: Berbs Blog, much madness within
     Reply #409 - April 02, 2008, 10:47 PM
    Quote from: King Tut on April 02, 2008, 10:34 PM
    I like sublime femininity in my women, with seductive and tenderness assertiveness. I don't expect her to have a penis. Which I suspect berbs you might have.


    Watch it, King Tut.  finmad

    You are obsessed with penises....you say "penis" all the time. "Penis" this..."Penis" that. "Penis, penis, penis"!  What is up with that?  Shocked
  • Re: Berbs Blog, much madness within
     Reply #410 - April 03, 2008, 12:36 AM
    am sorry. I guess I should not tempt a pious Christian girl like yourself with all this talk of penises.
    Left the forum: http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=22997
  • Re: Berbs Blog, much madness within
     Reply #411 - April 03, 2008, 12:46 AM
    Quote from: King Tut on April 03, 2008, 12:36 AM
    am sorry. I guess I should not tempt a pious Christian girl like yourself with all this talk of penises.


    Thank you....it was starting to get to me. There's so much I can take in day. w00t  001_tongue
  • Re: Berbs Blog, much madness within
     Reply #412 - April 03, 2008, 09:03 AM
    Quote from: King Tut on April 02, 2008, 10:34 PM
    I like sublime femininity in my women, with seductive and tenderness assertiveness. I don't expect her to have a penis. Which I suspect berbs you might have.


    If it's personal insults you are looking to issue, then I will be happy to smite you.

    Keep it up..  Roll Eyes

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Berbs Blog, much madness within
     Reply #413 - April 03, 2008, 09:07 AM
    I have a suspicion that if he was capable of keeping it up he wouldn't feel compelled to constantly mention it.
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Berbs Blog, much madness within
     Reply #414 - April 03, 2008, 09:11 AM
    Now, now, Os... you´re getting almost as bad as Tutsie!
  • So was my abuse justified?
     Reply #415 - April 03, 2008, 05:18 PM
    PB is not the first person to say I deserved the beatings I got from my ex, my ex said it, members at FFI said it, members here said it.

    So is it true?

    Am I so bad I deserve to be beaten?

    Do I answer back too often? 

    Be honest now, PB used to say I didn't, but he was lying since he exposed his real feelings later, which means that only my so called friends are either lying to me too and can also understand why my ex beat me,

    Be honest now, Do I deserve to be beaten, can you totally understand where my ex was coming from?

    Don't lie to spare my feelings, my feelings are already all over the place as I struggle against these new nasty things people say which simply echo the fears I try to surpress.

    So be honest.
    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Berbs Blog, much madness within
     Reply #416 - April 03, 2008, 05:23 PM
    What else, leech to society, parasite, useless.

    So what, I try to quite the SSRI's so that no one can laugh at me for them, and I quit the pot so no one else can laugh at me, and what am I left with?

    People still laughing at me.

    I am leaving the forum for awhile, I am actually crying, it's true, I am just useless and I deserve to be beaten.
    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: So was my abuse justified?
     Reply #417 - April 03, 2008, 05:24 PM
    Quote from: BerberElla on April 03, 2008, 05:18 PM
    PB is not the first person to say I deserved the beatings I got from my ex, my ex said it, members at FFI said it, members here said it.

    So is it true?

    Am I so bad I deserve to be beaten?

    Do I answer back too often? 

    Be honest now, PB used to say I didn't, but he was lying since he exposed his real feelings later, which means that only my so called friends are either lying to me too and can also understand why my ex beat me,

    Be honest now, Do I deserve to be beaten, can you totally understand where my ex was coming from?

    Don't lie to spare my feelings, my feelings are already all over the place as I struggle against these new nasty things people say which simply echo the fears I try to surpress.

    So be honest.


    Don't be fucking daft Berbs.

    No one deserves to be beaten......for any reason - ever.

    I won't lie to you - take that how you want - but I can't be clearer.
    That happy night was worth them a'
    Amang the rigs wi' Annie.
  • Re: Berbs Blog, much madness within
     Reply #418 - April 03, 2008, 05:30 PM
    No, Berbs you didn't deserve to be beaten.  I'm not going to rehash the details of what Bunny said, etc, but even he didn't go quite that far, even in the midst of an ugly row.

    As for your ex, what that asshole says isn't worth a fart.  A so-called man that behaved like he did is not fit to be saying who deserves what.  Members of FFI?  What, Yohan, the notorious bigot and failed losers like him?

    Nobody with any sense or integrity would say that you deserved to be beaten, or that you are useless.  You've put in a lot of time and effort to get the forum up and running and you've done a really good job.  I think everybody on here would say they appreciate that.  None of us are laughing at you either, none of this is remotely funny, in fact.  Its very sad to see you and Bunny at each other's throats.
    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: Berbs Blog, much madness within
     Reply #419 - April 03, 2008, 05:41 PM

    Hear hear! Cheetah.  Afro
    That happy night was worth them a'
    Amang the rigs wi' Annie.
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