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  • Christopher Hitchens in Conversation: The Only Subject is Love
     OP - March 15, 2010, 07:37 AM
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABsd5WssVS0

    I love how eloquent and well read Hitchens is with the classics. He recites poetry here Smiley
    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: Christopher Hitchens in Conversation: The Only Subject is Love
     Reply #1 - March 15, 2010, 07:42 AM
    Is it me, but are his arms getting shorter the more often I see a vid of him? Reminds me of the Pakistani actor Rangeela!
  • Re: Christopher Hitchens in Conversation: The Only Subject is Love
     Reply #2 - March 15, 2010, 07:46 AM
     Cheesy
    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: Christopher Hitchens in Conversation: The Only Subject is Love
     Reply #3 - March 15, 2010, 07:49 AM
    Anyone read "God is not Great"? What did you think of it? (I'm thinking of buying it)
  • Re: Christopher Hitchens in Conversation: The Only Subject is Love
     Reply #4 - March 15, 2010, 07:53 AM
    "Anyone read "God is not Great"? What did you think of it? (I'm thinking of buying it)"

    I liked it. There was also a great section on eastern religions (of which I'm not a fan), as well as the middle eastern ones.
    The foundation of superstition is ignorance, the
    superstructure is faith and the dome is a vain hope. Superstition
    is the child of ignorance and the mother of misery.
    -Robert G. Ingersoll (1898)

     "Do time ninjas have this ability?" "Yeah. Only they stay silent and aren't douchebags."  -Ibl
  • Re: Christopher Hitchens in Conversation: The Only Subject is Love
     Reply #5 - March 15, 2010, 07:53 AM
    Quote from: Hassan on March 15, 2010, 07:49 AM
    Anyone read "God is not Great"? What did you think of it? (I'm thinking of buying it)


    Yes have read it, would definitely recommend it. Also, his The Portable Atheist (with quotes and short bios of some well known atheist/agnostic writers through history).
    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: Christopher Hitchens in Conversation: The Only Subject is Love
     Reply #6 - March 15, 2010, 08:02 AM
    He kinda looks like those weird egg twins in Alice cartoon.

    Anyways God is not great is fantastic. Well worth reading. Actually, I've only heard the audio book but will buy book as well.
  • Re: Christopher Hitchens in Conversation: The Only Subject is Love
     Reply #7 - March 15, 2010, 08:03 AM
    Hitches is the egg twin.

    Dawkins is the cat.

    Sam Harris is the Mad Hatter.
  • Re: Christopher Hitchens in Conversation: The Only Subject is Love
     Reply #8 - March 15, 2010, 08:11 AM
    Quote from: BlackDog on March 15, 2010, 08:03 AM
    Hitches is the egg twin.

    Dawkins is the cat.

    Sam Harris is the Mad Hatter.


     Cheesy

    Quote from: BlackDog on March 15, 2010, 08:02 AM
    He kinda looks like those weird egg twins in Alice cartoon.


    Haha. Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum.



     Cheesy

    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: Christopher Hitchens in Conversation: The Only Subject is Love
     Reply #9 - March 15, 2010, 08:16 AM
    And this is Rushdie speaking as part of the same series by Emory University.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owerxb8rSPo
    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: Christopher Hitchens in Conversation: The Only Subject is Love
     Reply #10 - March 15, 2010, 08:16 AM
     Cheesy
  • Re: Christopher Hitchens in Conversation: The Only Subject is Love
     Reply #11 - March 15, 2010, 08:57 AM
    Quote from: allat on March 15, 2010, 07:37 AM
    I love how eloquent and well read Hitchens is with the classics. He recites poetry here Smiley

    he recites poetry and quotes from famous people all the time. But I've always adored his quick-thinking and impenetrable remarks. And he is fueled with fiery rebellion! He is one of my top heroes!
    I know someday you'll have a beautiful life, I know you'll be a star
    In somebody else's sky, but why, why, why
    Can't it be, can't it be mine

    https://twitter.com/AlharbiMoe
  • Re: Christopher Hitchens in Conversation: The Only Subject is Love
     Reply #12 - March 15, 2010, 09:03 AM
    Quote from: Hassan on March 15, 2010, 07:49 AM
    Anyone read "God is not Great"? What did you think of it? (I'm thinking of buying it)

    I bought the book just a few days ago, Hassan. I was already sunk deep into the book from the very first chapter. It may look like a small book at first, but Hitchens has a lot to say in it! Of course you should get one! I also bought two of Dawkins books: "The Greatest Show on Earth: The Evidence For Evolution" and "The God Delusion"
    I know someday you'll have a beautiful life, I know you'll be a star
    In somebody else's sky, but why, why, why
    Can't it be, can't it be mine

    https://twitter.com/AlharbiMoe
  • Re: Christopher Hitchens in Conversation: The Only Subject is Love
     Reply #13 - March 15, 2010, 10:30 AM
    Quote from: Omaar Khayaam on March 15, 2010, 07:42 AM
    Is it me, but are his arms getting shorter the more often I see a vid of him?

     Cheesy
    My Book     news002       
    My Blog  pccoffee
  • Re: Christopher Hitchens in Conversation: The Only Subject is Love
     Reply #14 - March 15, 2010, 11:45 AM
    Quote from: Hassan on March 15, 2010, 07:49 AM
    Anyone read "God is not Great"? What did you think of it? (I'm thinking of buying it)


    Yeah, it's pretty good. Although, it focuses more on the negative consequences of religion than on refuting the existence of God.

    I thought his chapter on Islam was pretty weak, myself. The chapter on 'miracles' is probably my favourite.  It's very telling that theists and others who want people to believe in garbage so often resort to the miraculous as a means of persuasion.
  • Re: Christopher Hitchens in Conversation: The Only Subject is Love
     Reply #15 - March 15, 2010, 07:31 PM
    Overall the book was great. Listening to the audio book is even better. It's not really philosophical and isn't meant to be. The book in it's simplicity points out how ridiculous and man made religion and the figure of god is. I think his chapter on islam was okay. There were one or two errors but not enough to put the rest of the book down.
  • Re: Christopher Hitchens in Conversation: The Only Subject is Love
     Reply #16 - March 15, 2010, 07:37 PM
    Hitchens needs to get in shape and get off the whisky and ribeye steaks.
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: Christopher Hitchens in Conversation: The Only Subject is Love
     Reply #17 - March 15, 2010, 08:45 PM
    he drinks scotch, Iblis! he believes a shot a day is healthy .... I wish! Cheesy
    I know someday you'll have a beautiful life, I know you'll be a star
    In somebody else's sky, but why, why, why
    Can't it be, can't it be mine

    https://twitter.com/AlharbiMoe
  • Re: Christopher Hitchens in Conversation: The Only Subject is Love
     Reply #18 - March 16, 2010, 03:50 AM
    He reminds me of Ollie Reed sometimes!
  • Re: Christopher Hitchens in Conversation: The Only Subject is Love
     Reply #19 - March 16, 2010, 04:37 PM
    Christopher Hitchens comes across as really arrogant and conceited; him and Dawkins both, in fact. It's a wonder why so many free thinking rationalists hang on every word they say, quote them in life as if they were saints and repeat, almost verbatim, every one of their arguments. I would go do far as to say that the 2 have effectively become professional atheists; they make money out of not believing.

    And considering that neither of them have any background in theology/philosophy (Hitchens is a journalist; Dawkins a scientist), it is a wonder why their pronouncements on religion are so popular in Atheist circles! There are better, more intelgient atheists out there who just do not get a look in because of these 2 brash evangelists.

    It just goes to show that most people, religious or not, need someone (or something) to follow.
    ...nor shall they encompass aught of His knowledge, except as He willeth...
  • Re: Christopher Hitchens in Conversation: The Only Subject is Love
     Reply #20 - March 16, 2010, 04:40 PM
     Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
  • Re: Christopher Hitchens in Conversation: The Only Subject is Love
     Reply #21 - March 16, 2010, 04:42 PM
    Quote
    Christopher Hitchens comes across as really arrogant and conceited


    If they said what they said in a sweeter, more gentle voice, would you feel the same?

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Christopher Hitchens in Conversation: The Only Subject is Love
     Reply #22 - March 16, 2010, 04:46 PM
    1. Hitchens and Dawkins pull no punches. Suck it up buttercup.

    2. Of course they are not an authority on theology. They never claimed to be. But are you an authority on animism or Hinduism? Do you agree with it? How can you disagree with something you don't know in depth? Are you in expert in Ouija boards? Or faith healing? And so on. Besides they make some very good arguments, not all the time of course. And Hitchens is a delight to listen to. The man is well-read, well-traveled and highly intelligent. Why not listen to him?


    Please stop with the emotional pleading, its rather undignified.
  • Re: Christopher Hitchens in Conversation: The Only Subject is Love
     Reply #23 - March 16, 2010, 04:48 PM
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEl4QfcAK2o&feature=related


    Sorry..  I forgot to add words  to it ., but that Video is for Hassan., but I will fight for Hassan  to have full freedom to say what he would like to say as an Atheist and as an ex-Muslim
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Re: Christopher Hitchens in Conversation: The Only Subject is Love
     Reply #24 - March 16, 2010, 05:12 PM
    Quote from: Hassan1 on March 16, 2010, 04:37 PM
    Christopher Hitchens comes across as really arrogant and conceited; him and Dawkins both, in fact. It's a wonder why so many free thinking rationalists hang on every word they say, quote them in life as if they were saints and repeat, almost verbatim, every one of their arguments. I would go do far as to say that the 2 have effectively become professional atheists; they make money out of not believing.

    And considering that neither of them have any background in theology/philosophy (Hitchens is a journalist; Dawkins a scientist), it is a wonder why their pronouncements on religion are so popular in Atheist circles! There are better, more intelgient atheists out there who just do not get a look in because of these 2 brash evangelists.

    It just goes to show that most people, religious or not, need someone (or something) to follow.


     eusa_boohoo

    Do you have a background/degree in Pagan Arabian religions? If not, then why do you reject their gods Hubal, Manat and Allat?
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: Christopher Hitchens in Conversation: The Only Subject is Love
     Reply #25 - March 16, 2010, 05:14 PM
    Quote from: Iblis on March 16, 2010, 05:12 PM
    eusa_boohoo

    Do you have a background/degree in Pagan Arabian religions? If not, then why do you reject their gods Hubal, Manat and Allat?


    Oh Bruzzer! Don't you know? It's because the Quran says so.  Afro
  • Re: Christopher Hitchens in Conversation: The Only Subject is Love
     Reply #26 - March 16, 2010, 05:15 PM
    The Quran, the Literal word of God that reads like the malevolent and uneducated sayings of a 7th century desert king.
  • Re: Christopher Hitchens in Conversation: The Only Subject is Love
     Reply #27 - March 16, 2010, 05:44 PM
    I don't think there is any doubt that Mr Hitchens is a far greater role model than Mo will ever be. At least he hasn't killed anyone (except his liver)or wiped out any opposing tribes.
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: Christopher Hitchens in Conversation: The Only Subject is Love
     Reply #28 - March 16, 2010, 08:57 PM
    lol ye plus Hitchens is a great speaker. I can understand why people would think he is arrogant but from my point of view he is more balanced when it comes to religion and he is much less arrogant than the religious clerics. The 'faithful' just can't take the heat when he scorches their beliefs and breaks them down for what they really are.
    "The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims. The most perfect slaves are, therefore, those which blissfully and unawaredly enslave themselves."
  • Re: Christopher Hitchens in Conversation: The Only Subject is Love
     Reply #29 - March 16, 2010, 08:59 PM
    actually the four horsemen are perfect gentlemen, read their books, they all have religious friends and i find them to be very humble men with sombre personalities, they dont suffer fools, thats why some religious people get agitated.
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