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  • Islamic Society at City University, London
     OP - March 15, 2010, 05:36 PM



    OK, so City University, London, has a multi-faith prayer room, for any students who are religious, they can find a place to do their thing. However, that means, in practise, that Muslims have to share a prayer space with Christians, Jews, Hindus, Sikhs etc, and that their prayer space might be contaminated by any of those people, or even an image or prayer book of another faith. So here is what they do in protest, after the refusal to create a separate prayer room just for Islamic students, free of contamination from the kuffar

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgCo13BTnf4

    Blocking the entrance, disrupting the students in the library overlooking it, blocking the route to lecture halls.

    The City University ISOC is hardcore Islamist, they promote jehadi ideologues, and the university administration seems paralysed to take things on, even though non Muslim students are reporting being regularly intimidated by ISOC members.


    Quote
    As a non-Muslim student at City University, I can assure you that the school has been spineless in this fight. This has been going on for over a month now, lead to continuous disruptions of classes and prevented proper use of the library, and the best advice given to students is to tell security about it (security, of course, can not and does not prevent this from occurring on school property in any way).

    City is plagued with an extremely aggressive Islamic society that harasses non-Muslim students, relentlessly attempts to push their religion on other students, bottlenecks the only entrance to the main campus with constant prayer meetings and plasters political propaganda around campus with impunity.

    Non-Muslim students are encouraged to know their place and maintain their silence (denounced for noting that the City ISOC idolizes and propagates the likes of al-Awlakli), and any attempt to seek equal treatment is rebuffed by a sheepish administration. Not only does the administration refuse to help non-Muslims, but it actively places them in the middle of a political scuffle between the ISOC and the Vice-Chancellor by refusing to find any workable solution to the prayer room fiasco.


    Symptomatic and indicative of the bigotry of Islamists, their bullying tactics, and how some people are too scared to take them on for fear of being called 'Islamophobic'

    Remember, the Islamists proclaim themselves as being part of the carnival of 'diversity' and 'social cohesion' and anyone who opposes them as being intolerant. Even though they can't share a prayer room with kuffars.

    (although they act like this towards kuffars, moderate Muslims are the ones they want to intimidate and send a message to as well.


    Read it all here at Harry's Place

    http://www.hurryupharry.org/2010/03/14/justice-week-at-city-university/




    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


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    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Islamic Society at City University, London
     Reply #1 - March 15, 2010, 05:43 PM

    Stop browsing Harry's place and spreading Islamophobia you joo lower!
  • Re: Islamic Society at City University, London
     Reply #2 - March 15, 2010, 05:53 PM

    Holy shit, this takes me back.

    We did the *exact* same thing back at the University of Calgary when I used to be on the executive board of our MSA (i was VP for one semester..)

    We demanded the university bankroll not only a new*muslim* prayer room but also a wudu facility to be built into the washrooms. If you look up "university of calgary muslim prayer space" on google some of those articles show up - but the links are broken for some reason. But anyways, something I'm pretty ashamed to have been part of - heck I was part of the PR dealing with the Students Union too so it shocks me how deep I was at that time.

    But yeah, same issue as this. The Muslim on campus were not content with the proposed plans for a simple multifaith 'chapel', they wanted full islamically acceptable faciliites. Of course this is redneck calgary so the SU and Uni Admin provided plenty of opposition and friction. I think the MSA had to eventually comprimise, not sure what happened.

    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: Islamic Society at City University, London
     Reply #3 - March 15, 2010, 06:00 PM

    Stop browsing Harry's place and spreading Islamophobia you joo lower!


    I don't agree with all they say and many of their commenters in their threads are obnoxious twats, but several of the guys who write for them are as good as it gets - along with the lads who run The Spitoon - they are the best resources against Islamism in Britain on the internet ( http://www.spittoon.org/ )



    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Islamic Society at City University, London
     Reply #4 - March 15, 2010, 08:52 PM

    Omg, you guys are so spoiled. We didn't have any kind of dedicated prayer space at my university. If I wanted to pray on campus, I would have to check out a study room at the library or find an empty office or conference room or even a corner somewhere. Often I had to resort to simply praying in my car.

    Jesus.

    The only thing we have to fear is fear itself
    - 32nd United States President Franklin D. Roosevelt
  • Re: Islamic Society at City University, London
     Reply #5 - March 15, 2010, 09:03 PM

    @billy
    Yes, HP and TS are generally speaking quite good but I still have to justify my JOTM status.
  • Re: Islamic Society at City University, London
     Reply #6 - March 15, 2010, 09:21 PM

    Gosh.
  • Re: Islamic Society at City University, London
     Reply #7 - March 15, 2010, 09:39 PM

    ridiculous

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  • Re: Islamic Society at City University, London
     Reply #8 - March 15, 2010, 09:53 PM

    Simple solution: tell them the entire university is permeated with the essence of kufr and it is impossible to fix, so they will just have to fuck off and go somewhere else if they want a pure atmosphere.  Afro

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Islamic Society at City University, London
     Reply #9 - March 15, 2010, 09:56 PM


    They are trying to intimidate people - its a territorial thing. In their minds they are Muslims in Mecca at the time of Mo, demonstrating their unity and strength to the pagans.

    And of course, intimidating Muslims who don't fall in line with them, shaming them with their commitment and dedication, blah blah blah

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Islamic Society at City University, London
     Reply #10 - March 15, 2010, 09:59 PM

    If I am wrong, say they do build another building or dedicate another room.  That means only Muslims would be able to enter into that building or room?

    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: Islamic Society at City University, London
     Reply #11 - March 15, 2010, 10:02 PM

    They are trying to intimidate people - its a territorial thing. In their minds they are Muslims in Mecca at the time of Mo, demonstrating their unity and strength to the pagans.

    And of course, intimidating Muslims who don't fall in line with them, shaming them with their commitment and dedication, blah blah blah

    Exactly - that is the psychology behind it all.  Next they will be demanding separate classrooms for women  Roll Eyes and most of them wont have even read the Quran yet in a language they understand.

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  • Re: Islamic Society at City University, London
     Reply #12 - March 15, 2010, 10:04 PM

    I know how these guys operate and how they think.....they hate moderate Muslims who have non Muslim friends, do what everyone else does, almost as much as they hate kuffar

    Its a sideways aggression against their fellow Muslim who does not follow their extremisti mindset as much as a forward aggression against the infidel

    Remember, their aim is to correct the Ummah from its decadent ways as much as anything else.


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Islamic Society at City University, London
     Reply #13 - March 15, 2010, 10:17 PM

    disgusting
    the awful part is that those muslims who just want to read their prayers in congregation and don't even want to partake in the politics have no choice but to read there...

    At evening, casual flocks of pigeons make
    Ambiguous undulations as they sink,
    Downward to darkness, on extended wings. - Stevens
  • Re: Islamic Society at City University, London
     Reply #14 - March 15, 2010, 10:41 PM

    You can tell straightaway the Khateeb is a salafi - banging on about al-salaf al-saliheen - the 'pious predecessors' - big giveaway!

    Awais will get angry with me - but I'm sorry, I have really grown to hate salafis so much!

    Bunch of narrow-minded thugs!
  • Re: Islamic Society at City University, London
     Reply #15 - March 15, 2010, 11:32 PM

    Sorry to intrude on this topic - I didn't know what Salafi meant and looked it up on Wikipedia. It says
    "Salafis view the first three generations of Muslims, who are Prophet Muhammad's companions, and the two succeeding generations after them, the Tabi‘in and the Taba‘ at-Tabi‘in, as examples of how Islam should be practiced. This principle is derived from the following the hadith attributed to Prophet Muhammad: "The people of my generation are the best, then those who come after them, and then those who come after them"

    So does that mean that Muslims believe that their children's generation is worse than their own and that their grandchildren's even worse. Also if each new generation is worse than the preceding one, how can they go back to the "golden" generation ?



  • Re: Islamic Society at City University, London
     Reply #16 - March 15, 2010, 11:46 PM

    Quote
    So does that mean that Muslims believe that their children's generation is worse than their own and that their grandchildren's even worse. Also if each new generation is worse than the preceding one, how can they go back to the "golden" generation ?


    Salafis believe that Islam has accreted practises and attitudes inimical to 'pure' Islam. It is therefore incumbent to purify Islam and take it back to the basics (as they see it). Most ideologies that have purity as a goal tend to be extreme, intolerant, and visicious towards those they declare to be the reason for 'impurity'.


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Islamic Society at City University, London
     Reply #17 - March 16, 2010, 06:54 AM

    In simplistic terms: Salafis = hardcore literalists.
  • Re: Islamic Society at City University, London
     Reply #18 - March 16, 2010, 06:59 AM

    In simplistic terms: hardcore literalists always = trouble.

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Islamic Society at City University, London
     Reply #19 - March 16, 2010, 07:29 AM

    Salafis = living, walking advertisements for birth control.
  • Re: Islamic Society at City University, London
     Reply #20 - March 16, 2010, 07:38 AM

    Ridiculous...
  • Re: Islamic Society at City University, London
     Reply #21 - March 16, 2010, 07:51 AM

    Salafi is synonymous with Wahabi - though Salafis will deny it. They don't like the term Wahabi - but the fact is that that the Salafi Aqeedah has developed directly from the "Reform"  Roll Eyes movement started by Abdul Wahhab in the Arabian peninsula in the 18th century and has become the state religion of Saudia Arabia. The Saudi family gained power as a direct result of their alliance with Abdul Wahhab's "reform" movement and then named the country after themselves - and imposed their puritanical form of literalism on everyone - after killing many sufis, shia and anyone else they deemed heretics. They then exported their creed - and with the help of the oil money from the 70s onwards it spread all over the Muslim world and Europe.

    [/History Lesson]
  • Re: Islamic Society at City University, London
     Reply #22 - March 16, 2010, 07:53 AM

    Simple solution: tell them the entire university is permeated with the essence of kufr and it is impossible to fix, so they will just have to fuck off and go somewhere else if they want a pure atmosphere.  Afro


    Thank you. FUCKING ASSHOLES!!!! This makes me so mad. How dare these people act like this? Sometimes I wonder if I had ever been a muslim, shit like this would have embarressed me.
  • Re: Islamic Society at City University, London
     Reply #23 - March 16, 2010, 07:54 AM

    They are trying to intimidate people - its a territorial thing. In their minds they are Muslims in Mecca at the time of Mo, demonstrating their unity and strength to the pagans.

    And of course, intimidating Muslims who don't fall in line with them, shaming them with their commitment and dedication, blah blah blah


    lol that is probably true, what's next the muslims of medina? *shudders*
  • Re: Islamic Society at City University, London
     Reply #24 - March 16, 2010, 08:33 AM

    At its core this basically is a question of who is in control of the faith room and a show of strength. Salafi types usually would not wish to conduct services in a room that may display symbols and is used by adherents of other faiths because that would be analogous to acknowledging that Islam is equal to other religions and hence a denial of the One True Religion’s unique status.


    "Newham [College] had no prayer room. We knew that prayer was something all Muslims held dear and would easily unite behind. Our first confrontation with the management, therefore, was to demand a prayer room. Their reluctance to provide one led to accusations that the principal of the college was Jewish and did not want to see Muslims at prayer.

    ‘They slaughter us in Bosnia, expel us from our homes in Palestine, and refuse us the basic right to pray in Britain,’ I would say to students in the corridors. Again, just as Hizb [ut Tahrir] had trained us, we were linking local issues to global politics. We needed to accustom Muslims to talking and thinking about the wider Muslim world, for it was from there that our state would rise. Soon our arguments spread like wildfire among the students. Newham management was increasingly perceived as anti-Muslim and racist…..

    The Islamic Society … went from strength to strength. They organised formal weekly talks while we held spontaneous public sessions almost every day in packed canteens, common rooms and even corridors….

    Soon our success in Newham became known in the local community. We could, at an hour’s notice, gather a crowd of nearly a hundred at the main gates of the college…. Either Majid or I would stand on a bench at the college steps … and then someone would shout from the back, ‘Takbeeeer!’ To which the crowd responded with a resounding ‘Allahu Akbar!’"

    *The Islamist: Why I joined radical Islam in Britain, what I saw inside and why I left by Ed Hussain

  • Re: Islamic Society at City University, London
     Reply #25 - March 16, 2010, 10:01 AM

    stuff like this embarrassed me as a muslim, now it embarrasses me as a human

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  • Re: Islamic Society at City University, London
     Reply #26 - March 16, 2010, 11:11 AM

    stuff like this embarrassed me as a muslim, now it embarrasses me as a human


    +1 succintly put
  • Re: Islamic Society at City University, London
     Reply #27 - March 16, 2010, 03:15 PM

    stuff like this embarrassed me as a muslim, now it embarrasses me as a human


     Cheesy
  • Re: Islamic Society at City University, London
     Reply #28 - March 16, 2010, 08:31 PM

    Thanks for the information guys on Salafis.  However if the 3 first generations are the golden ones - this would correspond to when Islam was able to expand from Europe to India within 100 years of Prophet Mohammed's death - so could this be the reason why jihad is so important to these people. I know there are rewards for converting people, etc but some muslims are very tolerent whilst others are hell bent on converting the whole world.
  • Re: Islamic Society at City University, London
     Reply #29 - March 16, 2010, 08:34 PM

    By any means spread Islam, this was Muhammed's goal as a statesman in Medina. They followed him in this manner.
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