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Re: What languages do you guys know?
Reply #30 - March 19, 2010, 06:54 PM

I wish I knew arabic. For a start, Muslims wouldn't be able to use the "you don't know arabic!" excuse when I refute the Quran.

Actually, some of them will still use that excuse, except they'll say... "Oh but you don't know classical Quranic arabic!"

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Reply #31 - March 19, 2010, 07:03 PM

Quote from: Shahid Raza on March 19, 2010, 06:54 PM
I wish I knew arabic. For a start, Muslims wouldn't be able to use the "you don't know arabic!" excuse when I refute the Quran.

Actually, some of them will still use that excuse, except they'll say... "Oh but you don't know classical Quranic arabic!"

I bet most of them don't know classical Arabic themselves - it's become a knee-jerk response.

My spoken Arabic is not perfect, but I know classical Arabic better than many Arabs! And I'm not being big headed - it's the truth - I studied it and have a 1st class degree in Arabic - tafseer being my specialist subject - and also studied to Phd level and translated 1/4 of Zamakhsharis tafseer which is all balagha and grammar - and still I get that accusation from ppl who know shit themselves!
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Re: What languages do you guys know?
Reply #32 - March 19, 2010, 07:26 PM

Quote from: Hassan on March 19, 2010, 07:03 PM
I studied it and have a 1st class degree in Arabic - tafseer being my specialist subject - and also studied to Phd level and translated 1/4 of Zamakhsharis tafseer which is all balagha and grammar - and still I get that accusation from ppl who know shit themselves!

You're simply the Fitnah Bomb.

Are you planning to do something with the translation of Zamakhshari's tafsir?

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Re: What languages do you guys know?
Reply #33 - March 19, 2010, 07:30 PM

Quote from: Hassan on March 19, 2010, 07:03 PM
My spoken Arabic is not perfect, but I know classical Arabic better than many Arabs! And I'm not being big headed - it's the truth - I studied it and have a 1st class degree in Arabic - tafseer being my specialist subject - and also studied to Phd level and translated 1/4 of Zamakhsharis tafseer which is all balagha and grammar - and still I get that accusation from ppl who know shit themselves!

This is why you are epic.

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Re: What languages do you guys know?
Reply #34 - March 19, 2010, 07:34 PM

Quote from: Hassan on March 19, 2010, 07:03 PM
I bet most of them don't know classical Arabic themselves - it's become a knee-jerk response.

My spoken Arabic is not perfect, but I know classical Arabic better than many Arabs! And I'm not being big headed - it's the truth - I studied it and have a 1st class degree in Arabic - tafseer being my specialist subject - and also studied to Phd level and translated 1/4 of Zamakhsharis tafseer which is all balagha and grammar - and still I get that accusation from ppl who know shit themselves!

Hass - Would you say Pickthal is the most accurate Quranic translator out there, or are there any better than him?

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Reply #35 - March 19, 2010, 07:39 PM

Quote from: Aziz on March 19, 2010, 07:26 PM
Are you planning to do something with the translation of Zamakhshari's tafsir?

I did it back in the early 80s and never got round to finishing it - got a bit bored by it. I actually left all my manuscripts with Sheikh Ahmad in his office at Islamia - I wanted to forget all that stuff at the time.
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Reply #36 - March 19, 2010, 07:42 PM

Quote from: IsLame on March 19, 2010, 07:34 PM
Hass - Would you say Pickthal is the most accurate Quranic translator out there, or are there any better than him?

Horses for courses - I personally always liked Yusuf Ali - probably because he was more poetic and softened things - but yes I agree that Pickthall is more accurate.

Those two are still the best imho.
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Reply #37 - March 19, 2010, 07:44 PM

My old tutor at SOAS Abdul Haleem has done a translation that ppl tell me is good - but I never read it.
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Reply #38 - March 19, 2010, 07:54 PM

Quote from: Kaffir Latte on March 19, 2010, 04:50 PM
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Re: What languages do you guys know?
Reply #39 - March 20, 2010, 03:08 AM

Quote from: Hassan on March 19, 2010, 07:44 PM
My old tutor at SOAS Abdul Haleem has done a translation that ppl tell me is good - but I never read it.

OMG

ABDUL HALEEM WAS YOUR TUTOR?!

I like it myself it seems to be accurate and an easy read.

What's SOAS?

How is he as a person if you don't mind me asking?

Have you recently spoken with him?
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Reply #40 - March 20, 2010, 04:20 AM

I speak fluent Ona and broken English.

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Reply #41 - March 20, 2010, 06:52 AM

Quote from: BlackDog on March 20, 2010, 03:08 AM
OMG

ABDUL HALEEM WAS YOUR TUTOR?!

I like it myself it seems to be accurate and an easy read.

What's SOAS?

How is he as a person if you don't mind me asking?

Have you recently spoken with him?

SOAS is "The School of Oriental & African Studies" - part of the University of London.

Abdul Haleem is a nice chap - typical Egyptian - If I'm honest I don't think that highly of him as a scholar - I haven't spoken to him for years.

I had 3 Tutors over the 5 years I was at SOAS (4 for my BA and 1 for my Phd which I never completed.) = John Wansbrough, the guy who wrote "Quranic Studies", David Cowan the Scottish convert who wrote a grammar on Arabic, and Abdul Haleem.
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Reply #42 - March 20, 2010, 09:32 AM

Wow Hassan, that's really impressive.
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Reply #43 - March 20, 2010, 09:45 AM

am dain awright big fella, hows it gaun wae yersel? Whur aboots ye fae in Glesga?
n' mair tae the point ur ye a tim or a bluenose Unrepentant fenian bassa here

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Reply #44 - March 20, 2010, 09:47 AM
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Reply #45 - March 20, 2010, 09:51 AM

My native language is Italian

I know English but I am not very fluent in it yet. But since I love it, I try to practice whenever I can (English books, original language tv shows, etcetera)

I can understand Lombard, but I don't speak it much, since it's a dying language (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Lombard)

I used to know very basic Dutch (enough to survive in the Netherlands like... reading simple instructions or asking basic indications), but I don't remember it much anymore

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Re: What languages do you guys know?
Reply #46 - March 20, 2010, 10:58 AM

German, English, some French and Swedish. Farsi would be interesting ... any good tutors here?
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Reply #47 - March 20, 2010, 01:05 PM

Quote from: Kaffir Latte on March 20, 2010, 09:45 AM
am dain awright big fella, hows it gaun wae yersel? Whur aboots ye fae in Glesga?
n' mair tae the point ur ye a tim or a bluenose Unrepentant fenian bassa here

Haha

Aye, noa bad, man. An' am livin' in the West End th'noo. Stiyed in Denistoun for a coupla years afore tha', an aw. 'N' where you fae? I'd think ye wur Scoattish but Scoattish people dinnae usually ken that miny languages.

An' ya dancer, am a fenian an aw! As the chant goes: 'Am noa a billy am a tim! Am noa a billy, am noa so fuckin' silly, am noa a billy am a tim, thank fuck!'

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Re: What languages do you guys know?
Reply #48 - March 20, 2010, 01:08 PM

Thats impressive!

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Re: What languages do you guys know?
Reply #49 - March 20, 2010, 02:03 PM

Urdu, English and Kuffar!!

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Reply #50 - March 20, 2010, 04:43 PM

Fluent Gujarati, A* GCSE French level, basic German, bits or Urdu/Punjabi/Hindi _

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Reply #51 - March 20, 2010, 05:43 PM

Quote from: Zebedee on March 20, 2010, 01:05 PM
Haha

Aye, noa bad, man. An' am livin' in the West End th'noo. Stiyed in Denistoun for a coupla years afore tha', an aw. 'N' where you fae? I'd think ye wur Scoattish but Scoattish people dinnae usually ken that miny languages.

An' ya dancer, am a fenian an aw! As the chant goes: 'Am noa a billy am a tim! Am noa a billy, am noa so fuckin' silly, am noa a billy am a tim, thank fuck!'

Tiocfaidh ar la!

hahaha, anar tim ,yaldy !!! Tiocfaidh ar lá a chara Am fae Shettleston in pyoor neddy east end originally, but I wis fer the affski as soon as a could dae it . Nae future there for ,gallus bassa like me

Now whilst I have enjoyed this little sojourn back into the vulgarities of our common venacular I think we should return to the language of her majesty the queen (piss be upon her) old chap. What oh !

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Reply #52 - March 20, 2010, 05:52 PM

I know english, urdu, and some dirty words in japanese and burmese i learnt from my friends.

In burmese, lee = penis, sau-pay = vagina
In japanese, chanko = penis, manko = vagina
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Reply #53 - March 21, 2010, 12:02 AM

Kaffir Latte and Zebedee, I need to speak to both of you about living in Glasgow. I've been offered places at Glasgow and Cardiff medical schools and I haven't the slightest idea which one to choose. So far I'm inclined to pick Glasgow as it's better academically.

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Re: What languages do you guys know?
Reply #54 - March 21, 2010, 12:37 AM

English, Urdu/Hindi, a little bit of French, and some choice words and phrases in Russian.

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Reply #55 - March 21, 2010, 01:11 AM

Russian swearing lessons, please.

I was going to learn Serbian at one stage and they have some great curses. I can't remember how to say it but one of them translated as "May your mother recognise you in a hamburger."

Oh and I only speak English, Australian, a few words of several other languages, and some choice phrases in lolcat.

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Reply #56 - March 21, 2010, 01:53 AM

Quote from: osmanthus on March 21, 2010, 01:11 AM
Oh and I only speak English, Australian, a few words of several other languages, and some choice phrases in lolcat.

Haha, I remember someone in Australia telling me that he spoke english and australian. When I asked what's australian, he said something really funny in an aussie accent which i've forgotten..

Do you know what was it?
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Re: What languages do you guys know?
Reply #57 - March 21, 2010, 02:26 AM

It could be any one of several hundred things.

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Reply #58 - March 21, 2010, 02:31 AM

Quote from: osmanthus on March 21, 2010, 01:11 AM
Russian swearing lessons, please.

I'll have to get back to you once I can find the notebook where I wrote them down a while back, but to start with:

At yibiss = fuck off

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Reply #59 - March 21, 2010, 02:34 AM

Essential phrase for tourists in any country.

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