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Re: Do You Want To Destroy Islam?
Reply #180 - April 02, 2010, 12:07 AM

Quote from: Muhammad bin Lyin on April 01, 2010, 11:58 PM
Spell check of the Forum's software flagged "reductively", and that's what I was talking about. So you didn't even know what was being referred to. Whistle whistle...doo doo doo, I'm so smart, doo doo doo, pot kettle, doo doo doo

MBL, my spelling of 'reductively' was correct - what a spectacular own goal

Can we have a rewind of it? Yes we can:

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Learn how to spell it before talking about ignorance

Sir, I suggest you heed your own advice - but thanks for the comedy, all the same

"we can smell traitors and country haters"

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Reply #181 - April 02, 2010, 12:09 AM

Then great, blame the forum's software as well. anyway, do you have anything about the topic to add to the conversation?
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Reply #182 - April 02, 2010, 12:10 AM

Quote from: billy on April 02, 2010, 12:07 AM

MBL, my spelling of 'reductively' was correct - what a spectacular own goal

Can we have a rewind of it? Yes we can:

Sir, I suggest you heed your own advice - but thanks for the comedy, all the same

And??? And??? So what?? Now, what else do you have to say??
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Reply #183 - April 02, 2010, 12:12 AM

Quote from: Muhammad bin Lyin on April 02, 2010, 12:05 AM
Billy, a product is an outcome. Please stop trying to play with word technicalities

You keep spouting these ideas but you give no basis except for your opinion. Democracy is a political voting system and there are many forms of it that are independent of cultures or philosophies because it is only a voting system that demands that the people be heard. That's it..

First of all, learn how 'reductively' is spelt before giving any further opinion, or at the very least, use your brain and don't be fooled by a faulty spell checking device - think you can you manage that?

Look, you keep spouting all this, ahem, reductive definition of what 'democracy' means, and I see you are digging your hole deeper and deeper when really, you should have stopped a long while back, even before your mind short circuited at the first sight of the word 'reductively'

Its got to the point where this discussion has become rather desperate and petty on your behalf that I have almost forgotten what the point of it was.

"we can smell traitors and country haters"

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Reply #184 - April 02, 2010, 12:13 AM

Quote from: Muhammad bin Lyin on April 02, 2010, 12:10 AM
And??? And??? So what?? Now, what else do you have to say??

That you have amused me very much with your impression of Frank Spencer discussing 'Democracy' on the internet.

Thanks for that

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Reply #185 - April 02, 2010, 12:16 AM

Quote from: billy on April 02, 2010, 12:12 AM
First of all, learn how 'reductively' is spelt before giving any further opinion, or at the very least, use your brain and don't be fooled by a faulty spell checking device - think you can you manage that?

Sure.

Quote from: billy on April 02, 2010, 12:12 AM
Look, you keep spouting all this, ahem, reductive definition of what 'democracy' means, and I see you are digging your hole deeper and deeper when really, you should have stopped a long while back, even before your mind short circuited at the first sight of the word 'reductively'

Its got to the point where this discussion has become rather desperate and petty on your behalf that I have almost forgotten what the point of it was.

Would you call the democracy of Italy to be the same as the democracy of the US even though the two have such different systems?
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Reply #186 - April 02, 2010, 12:20 AM

Are there socialist democracies and capitalist ones? Are there conservative democracies and liberal ones?? You're totally full of shit and busted. Liberalism has absolutely NOTHING to do with democracy, and instead of solving this mistake of yours, we're going to play little word games, while you use that as your chance to escape. Seen it before.
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Reply #187 - April 02, 2010, 12:23 AM

Just one more time for proper emphasis.

Are there conservative and liberal democracies or is democracy only limited to liberalism??

Who cares about Spencer. I've heard of him, but never bothered to read him. Common sense tells me enough. Who needs to read him?
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Reply #188 - April 02, 2010, 12:24 AM

Quote from: billy on April 02, 2010, 12:13 AM
That you have amused me very much with your impression of Frank Spencer discussing 'Democracy' on the internet.

Thanks for that

The false amusement excuse is usually someone's attempt at graceful exit.
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Reply #189 - April 02, 2010, 12:26 AM

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The false amusement excuse is usually someone's attempt at graceful exit.

Your reckoning is as faulty as your spelling

"we can smell traitors and country haters"

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Reply #190 - April 02, 2010, 12:29 AM

I don't have to reckon your feigned amusement as it's in writing. Robert Spencer was not an answer and rather a cop out and attempt at graceful exit. You don't think I've seen this a million times??? I LOVE the human pride and what it does to protect itself. Maybe you're an Ex Muslim, because you still behave as stubbornly.
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Reply #191 - April 02, 2010, 12:30 AM

Quote from: Muhammad bin Lyin on April 02, 2010, 12:20 AM
Are there socialist democracies and capitalist ones? Are there conservative democracies and liberal ones?? You're totally full of shit and busted. Liberalism has absolutely NOTHING to do with democracy, and instead of solving this mistake of yours, we're going to play little word games, while you use that as your chance to escape. Seen it before.

I'm not playing word games - I have been very specific.

I must say though, I doubt your cognitive ability after tonights display of chest thumping, CAPITALISATION of words for symbolic rhetorical emphasis, and desperate insistent use of 'you're totally full of shit and busted', in the hope that saying it, makes it so. And last but not least, the spelling catastrophe, a veritable apocalypse of egg on your face

"we can smell traitors and country haters"

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Reply #192 - April 02, 2010, 12:32 AM

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I don't have to reckon your feigned amusement as it's in writing.

My amusement is very real - and a piece of advice - judging by your disastrous textual error tonight, I wouldn't put any faith in your own ability to discern anything from my writing - let it go man, let it go

"we can smell traitors and country haters"

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Reply #193 - April 02, 2010, 12:33 AM

Oh for God's sake, just come out say say it plainly and I'll respond. Quit the act and quit jargon. thank you.
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Reply #194 - April 02, 2010, 12:35 AM

Quote from: Muhammad bin Lyin on April 02, 2010, 12:20 AM
Are there socialist democracies and capitalist ones? Are there conservative democracies and liberal ones?? You're totally full of shit and busted. Liberalism has absolutely NOTHING to do with democracy, and instead of solving this mistake of yours, we're going to play little word games, while you use that as your chance to escape. Seen it before.

TBH I haven't read the whole thread but I do wanna point out that billy is right when he says all democracies are politically liberal.

Here look at this wiki article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_democracy

This is the introduction:
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Liberal democracy (bourgeois democracy or constitutional democracy) is a common form of representative democracy. A liberal democracy may take various constitutional forms: it may be a Republican democracy, as the United States, India or France, or a constitutional monarchy, such as the United Kingdom, Japan, or Spain. It may have a presidential system (United States), a parliamentary system (Westminster system, UK and Commonwealth countries), or a hybrid, semi-presidential system (France).

The term "liberal" in "liberal democracy" refers to adherence to the ideology of political liberalism. Liberal democracies feature constitutional protections of individual rights from government power, which were first proposed during the Age of Enlightenment by social contract theorists such as Hobbes and Locke. At present, there are numerous countries ruled by non-liberal political parties - parties that uphold conservatism, Christian democracy, social democracy, or some forms of socialism - that are considered to have liberal democracy as their form of government.

Please would you carefully read the underlined part. It basically says that even if a democratic country is governed by a conservative, Christian, or Socialist party, it is still a liberal democracy by definition.
You're confusing social liberalism with political liberalism.
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Reply #195 - April 02, 2010, 12:36 AM

Quote from: billy on April 02, 2010, 12:32 AM

My amusement is very real - and a piece of advice - judging by your disastrous textual error tonight, I wouldn't put any faith in your own ability to discern anything from my writing - let it go man, let it go

Oh oh oh., that's a disastrous textual error, I must not be listened to any further.

Who do you honestly think you are kidding??
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Reply #196 - April 02, 2010, 12:36 AM

Quote from: Muhammad bin Lyin on April 02, 2010, 12:29 AM
I don't have to reckon your feigned amusement as it's in writing. Robert Spencer was not an answer and rather a cop out and attempt at graceful exit. You don't think I've seen this a million times??? I LOVE the human pride and what it does to protect itself. Maybe you're an Ex Muslim, because you still behave as stubbornly.

Wow you did it again, changed your post after I already quoted it.

OK, look, what does Robert Spencer have to do with anything? And what exit is it that you keep mentioning? I think that's just your mind working reductively (whoops!) - tell me, are you on prescribed medications at all? Have you forgotten to take them tonight

"we can smell traitors and country haters"

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Reply #197 - April 02, 2010, 12:37 AM

becasuse you're responding so fast
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Reply #198 - April 02, 2010, 12:38 AM

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OK, look, what does Robert Spencer have to do with anything

Isn't that something YOU should ask YOURSELF since you brought it up??
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Reply #199 - April 02, 2010, 12:39 AM

Quote from: Muhammad bin Lyin on April 02, 2010, 12:36 AM
Oh oh oh., that's a disastrous textual error, I must not be listened to any further.

Who do you honestly think you are kidding??

Well, as Iraqi Atheist has just pointed out, your understanding of democracy and liberalism is as lamentable as your spelling

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Reply #200 - April 02, 2010, 12:39 AM

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tell me, are you on prescribed medications at all? Have you forgotten to take them

Do you mean the ones YOU should actually be taking???
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Reply #201 - April 02, 2010, 12:43 AM

Quote from: Muhammad bin Lyin on April 02, 2010, 12:38 AM
Isn't that something YOU should ask YOURSELF since you brought it up??

It gets better and better

I was referring to Frank Spencer, hapless and witless figure of fun from the classic BBC sit-com 'Some Mother's Do Have Em'

That's who you reminded me of - and now - even more so

"we can smell traitors and country haters"

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Reply #202 - April 02, 2010, 01:03 AM

Billy deleted his mention of Spencer. That's because originally, he DID mention Robert Spencer, but then changed it to Frank Spencer, and curiously enough, I can't even find where he mentioned any Spencer anywhere, whereas I swear I used to see it and therefore can't figure out where Muhammad bin Lyin got that from.

My God, is this level of pride and desperation really this necessary?? Maybe the EX Muslims are even worse then the Muslims.
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Reply #203 - April 02, 2010, 01:05 AM

sick first post

So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
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Reply #204 - April 02, 2010, 01:07 AM

What do you mean?
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Reply #205 - April 02, 2010, 01:09 AM

Ahhh, pride is such an ugly thing. they'll even shut somebody up if they need to. So much for "liberalism". Liberalism actually means "controlling". so I guess that preventing Muhammad bin Lyin from posting is an example of "liberalism".
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Reply #206 - April 02, 2010, 01:35 AM

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Liberalism actually means "controlling".
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Reply #207 - April 02, 2010, 01:54 AM

Quote from: BerberElla on April 01, 2010, 05:34 PM
And that should give you an inkling of just how crazy they are over there.

Oh really BerberElla? Let me expose you here. IF all the guys at FFI were crazy why in the world did you invite people at FFI via PMs to your forum? Well it seems you too loved hate/ The first members here were some of the FFI members. Why is it so?
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Reply #208 - April 02, 2010, 01:58 AM

Quote from: Hassan on April 01, 2010, 05:04 PM
@IslamicMythology - It's not up to you to interpret Islam the way you want. Their understanding of Islam is the correct one. (Sound familiar )

Sorry mate you are still a potential terrorist in the eyes of these guys. You or your kids could snap back to the "real Islam" any day and then it would be kill bomb and slaughter...

In fact some of them say the moderates are the worst. (Sneaky taqiyya tacticians and all that... )

Quote me entirely if you have got guts and lets see who can debunk me here.I know you are incapable of rational discourse when going gets a bit tough.Well quoting me in half means you are lying about me.

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Reply #209 - April 02, 2010, 02:00 AM

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My God, is this level of pride and desperation really this necessary?? Maybe the EX Muslims are even worse then the Muslims. Cheesy

. They are hypocrites of the highest order and look how they fall apart and resort to cheap tactics when they cant debate.
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