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 Topic: Women

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  • Re: Women
     Reply #360 - April 10, 2010, 05:49 PM

    Can you point out where I did a person attack on you?

    Suggesting that I be banned.
  • Re: Women
     Reply #361 - April 10, 2010, 05:49 PM

    Jamie has been banned anyway.   dance

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Women
     Reply #362 - April 10, 2010, 05:54 PM

    In fact just ban me. You silly little bitch on a power trip. No I can make you do something, ban me! women like you are not born they are excreted.

    So much bile and rage... do you not feel that it's being misdirected, even a little? Something is driving you to come back, like a moth to the flame. Perhaps cooling off for a few days to consider your feelings and motivations in retrospect could help you find a fresh perspective. Right now your conduct really isn't doing you any credit.

    Each of us a failed state in stark relief against the backdrop of the perfect worlds we seek.
    Propagandhi - Failed States
  • Re: Women
     Reply #363 - April 10, 2010, 05:57 PM

    Oh hello Tut. Cheesy We were almost sure it was you. Yes you've been given enough rope on this account.

    Keep on creating sock puppets here. We LOVE how much you just can't get away and get a life for yourself. See you around next time.  Wink

    Good catch allat  cool2 No wonder he wanted me banned since i exposed his last account (IslamMythology)..
  • Re: Women
     Reply #364 - April 10, 2010, 05:59 PM

    So much bile and rage... do you not feel that it's being misdirected, even a little? Something is driving you to come back, like a moth to the flame. Perhaps cooling off for a few days to consider your feelings and motivations in retrospect could help you find a fresh perspective. Right now your conduct really isn't doing you any credit.


    He's an old troll. He's been banned, but he creates sock puppet accounts and pretends to be different people. He craves attention, even negative attention, that's all.

    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: Women
     Reply #365 - April 10, 2010, 06:21 PM

     parrot

    Call me TAP TAP! for I am THE ASS PATTER!
  • Re: Women
     Reply #366 - April 10, 2010, 07:30 PM

    I want to actually squash this back and forth argument about fat people, and fat jokes.

    I've read both sides of the argument thoroughly, and while I agree with both sides, I want to point out that both sides have some very faulty arguments; which really is making everything confusing and dragged on more than it needs to be.

    First I'll begin with the side that argues that some people can't lose weight due to different reasons be it health oriented or lifestyle oriented. Most of you who know me here. know that I was a personal trainer for two years and I worked at a GNC selling sport supplements. A lot of the customers and clients I'd get, their goal would be to lose weight. But therein lies the misunderstanding:

    -Weight is composed of everything you have--your fat, your muscles, the water you're holding, your organs, your bones, the waste that you have holding in your intestines, etc. When people argue that it's impossible for people to lose weight because of any medical reason, to someone like me, it doesn't make sense because 'losing weight' is never the goal anyways. People refer to 'losing weight' as burning fat--which I must stress are completely different things.

    -Fat is stored energy--that's it. It only makes up a small portion of your weight believe it or not. For example, a male can weigh 200lbs. but can still be significantly healthy due to the fact that he has very low body fat percentage and thus most of his weight comes from his muscles. Burning fat while preserving your muscles is the goal when fitness is concerned. And doing this is not a matter of calories in v.s calories out. You also have to dial in your macro-nutrient ratios; which I'll not be going into. Exercise is the last part of the equation.

    -That being said, I want to say to those who are arguing that there are medical reasons why someone can't 'lose wright'--if you by 'losing weight' you mean burning fat, then you're dead wrong. There are no medical reasons which cannot be treated and keep a person helpless in regards to getting fit. One quick example that comes to mind is Thyroid problems. I've trained women who had busted thyroids because of pregnancy, but they certainly were not helpless. They watched what they ate, took their medication, and exercised well--and within six months, they had a great body. However, if by 'losing weight' you really referring to total body weight--then you may actually have a point. Water retention, is a big part of weight gain. A lot of meds. unfortunately makes a person gain tremendous amounts of water which they can't control. This is just the reality. Also, doing a full body detox is also very common amongst women. This is fine, but the problem is that they have the wrong expectations. They believe that with the detox formula, one can lose about 10lbs. and weight 10lbs. less forever. Believe it or not, I got these kinds of customers all the time. A detox can very well help you lose 10-15lbs. of waste from your intestines, but that weight will come back within time, and it'll be even quicker if you go back to eating like shit.

    -In regards to StarDust's arguement about people having busy lives I want to say that this really is a poor excuse. It's true that exercising 45min.-1 hour each day is highly beneficial, but working out 10min. per day is good as well (given that you are eating healthy and staying away from constant consumption of alcohol). There is no excuse that can be made for a poor, and unhealthy lifestyle. I'm not criticizing those who honestly cannot make the time, but you really are not helpless.

    ==========================

    That being said let me actually talk to those feel it's okay to make fun of someone for being overweight. While it's true that most overweight people are not helpless, it certainly is faulty thinking to believe being overweight is the cause of laziness, and procrastination. Bad eating habits is pretty relevant to everyone who is overweight, but there are other psychological, and biological factors that surpass the control of will power alone. So while I do believe it's funny to make fat jokes, given the appropriate context and timing, I don't think it should be a 'in your face' way to promote people to be fit. Because then you're just proving to someone like me, that you really don't understand the issue yourself either.




    Call me TAP TAP! for I am THE ASS PATTER!
  • Re: Women
     Reply #367 - April 10, 2010, 07:43 PM

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    there are other psychological, and biological factors that surpass the control of will power alone

    Like what? You just proved in your post above that being fat is pretty much a matter of choice and no one is helpless about it. You're contradicting it with that statement above.
  • Re: Women
     Reply #368 - April 10, 2010, 07:47 PM

    You're contradicting it with that statement above.


    Nope. I didn't prove that being fat is a matter of choice. I proved that both sides have a point and it's not all black and white; although for the most part, it IS a matter of choice. However it is stupid to say that all of it, is a matter of choice.

    Like what? You just proved in your post above that being fat is pretty much a matter of choice and no one is helpless about it.


    Stress is one common psychological problem that raises the levels of cortisol. Cortisol is directly linked with storing fat and slowing down metabolism. A person who has chronic anxiety disorder can have abnormal surges of cortisol which is outside their control.

    Call me TAP TAP! for I am THE ASS PATTER!
  • Re: Women
     Reply #369 - April 10, 2010, 07:49 PM

    As far as biological problem goes, there are also hormonal problems a person can be born with, that results in tremendous weight gain.

    All of these things are under our control since medicines are available to us to treat such things, but one should keep in mind that a lot of people don't have insurance and buying these meds all the time is a financial pain. So to them, they really dont have a choice.

    Call me TAP TAP! for I am THE ASS PATTER!
  • Re: Women
     Reply #370 - April 10, 2010, 09:58 PM

    You're getting it wrong, that's not how our minds work. Just like a lot of girls would get mad/upset if someone spoke to them on the phone and mistook them to be a guy based on their voice, similarly many (straight) guys wouldn't like being considered not man enough/not masculine enough.

    No. she's getting it right. Cheesy The funny thing (or one of the funny things) is calling me a bitch or implying that I have female characteristics doesn't bother me personally, because I just regard it as inaccurate. I find it hilarious that anyone would think it was a good attack.

    Now if I actually was worried about my masculinity that would probably be different, but I'm not. I'm quite comfortable with it and I enjoy it, but I don't take it seriously. After all, it's just a genetic accident that happened to one embryo of a species of mutant chimpanzee on a pissy little ball of rock in the middle of nowhere. Copping an attitude about that seems fucking stupid.  Wink

    Still, you apparently don't realise that your protests are only proving the point.

    Well last I checked women didn't go around using derogatory names for men as curse words to throw at each other.

    It is about how your minds work, not all men's and not all straight men's. Most Muslim men's minds are programmed deeply to believe in the inferiority of women, thus being called a woman, a bitch, or any derogatory word is hurtful to your pride. It's rooted in sexism. Whether you choose to follow it or not shows your own capacity for sexism, but the influences are there. It's a matter of becoming conscious of those influences and then, if you truly are not a sexist or a misogynist, then choosing to consciously reject and disconnect from those sexist influences of the larger culture.

    And that's the point. It's not a matter of being weak. It's simply a matter of having enough self-awareness to not project your shit onto other people. Don't think I'm singling you out, because I'm not. It's something we all have to deal with. Smiley

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Women
     Reply #371 - April 10, 2010, 10:49 PM

    After all, it's just a genetic accident that happened to one embryo of a species of mutant chimpanzee on a pissy little ball of rock in the middle of nowhere. Copping an attitude about that seems fucking stupid.  Wink

    I (literally) lol'd.  Cheesy

    Each of us a failed state in stark relief against the backdrop of the perfect worlds we seek.
    Propagandhi - Failed States
  • Re: Women
     Reply #372 - April 10, 2010, 10:53 PM

     grin12 Well hey.

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Women
     Reply #373 - April 10, 2010, 11:09 PM

    Oh, and I think you're spot on with the rest of it, btw. Attacking other males who refuse to buy into the gender dichotomy seems to be the last recourse of those beaten intellectually. When all else fails, we can always fall back on tribal mentality! We're Real Men(tm) and we say you're not in our club anymore 'cause you took their side!

    O noes, this must be part of the eval feminazi plotz to destroy teh hetero guyz!!!1

    Each of us a failed state in stark relief against the backdrop of the perfect worlds we seek.
    Propagandhi - Failed States
  • Re: Women
     Reply #374 - April 10, 2010, 11:09 PM

    Metrosexuals had to come from somewhere amiright???

    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: Women
     Reply #375 - April 10, 2010, 11:12 PM

    Metrosexuals had to come from somewhere amiright???

    Hey, I resemble resent that! *Goes back to blow drying his hair*

    Each of us a failed state in stark relief against the backdrop of the perfect worlds we seek.
    Propagandhi - Failed States
  • Re: Women
     Reply #376 - April 10, 2010, 11:19 PM

    My other favourite stunt is when some twit accuses me of being gay in an attempt to put me down. I'm not, and I don't act like it, but you'll still get some twits who are desperate for any insult and pick one that would bother them.

    So if you suddenly start acting really gay and blowing kisses at them, etc it really fucks with their heads.  grin12  I do this IRL too. It's hilarious.

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Women
     Reply #377 - April 10, 2010, 11:27 PM

      I do this IRL too. It's hilarious.

    Me too! Glad to know I'm not the only one with an evil streak.  Cheesy

    You realise this type of behaviour makes us both "closet fags" according to the unerring doctrine of Real Men(tm).

    Each of us a failed state in stark relief against the backdrop of the perfect worlds we seek.
    Propagandhi - Failed States
  • Re: Women
     Reply #378 - April 10, 2010, 11:37 PM

    Oh bullshit. Just because I have a lovely selection of feather boas in my wardrobe that doe NOT mean I'm a closet fag.

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Women
     Reply #379 - April 10, 2010, 11:38 PM

    No, it just means you have terrible fashion sense.   Chicken

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Women
     Reply #380 - April 10, 2010, 11:42 PM

    I like the way some guys are ok to have a feminine side, or just being ok with other men who may have a feminine side/ metrosexual, I think it's cool and shows a progressive society

    "Between stimulus and response there is a space. In that space is our power to choose our response. In our response lies our growth and our freedom." - Viktor E. Frankl

    'Life is just the extreme expression of complex chemistry' - Neil deGrasse Tyson
  • Re: Women
     Reply #381 - April 10, 2010, 11:59 PM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zey8567bcg
  • Re: Women
     Reply #382 - April 11, 2010, 06:00 AM

    OK I'm going to man up and confess. I guess I am a mild sexist. I think I've done a good job of covering it so far. I don't think women are inferior but I do associate some negative traits like whining, backbiting and gossiping with negative femenine stereotypes. There have been times when I have thought of other men as bitches, pussies and girly men. Its wrong and will be difficult to change since it has been ingrained into my head for decades. 

    My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable and I'm just ferocious. I want your heart. I want to eat your children. Praise be to Allah." -- Mike Tyson
  • Re: Women
     Reply #383 - April 11, 2010, 06:02 AM

    Us both.

    Call me TAP TAP! for I am THE ASS PATTER!
  • Re: Women
     Reply #384 - April 11, 2010, 06:27 AM

    You guys are brave. I have been in the position of having to come to terms with my own prejudices too at various times. It's not always easy, and I thank you for coming in the open and being upfront about this.
     hugs

    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: Women
     Reply #385 - April 11, 2010, 08:08 AM

    Honestly I think most men, and probably most women, are part-time sexists. You might get the occasional saint who isn't but I think they're going to be in very short supply.

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Women
     Reply #386 - April 11, 2010, 10:05 AM

    OK I'm going to man up and confess. I guess I am a mild sexist. I think I've done a good job of covering it so far. I don't think women are inferior but I do associate some negative traits like whining, backbiting and gossiping with negative femenine stereotypes. There have been times when I have thought of other men as bitches, pussies and girly men. Its wrong and will be difficult to change since it has been ingrained into my head for decades. 

    If ever there were an example of truly "manning up", this would probably be it. Admitting a problem like that to yourself is the hardest step, and sharing it with others provides a commendable example.

    Once that mental switch has been flicked certain behaviours won't feel right anymore, your conscience will guide you away from those ingrained ways if you listen to it. Good luck!

    Each of us a failed state in stark relief against the backdrop of the perfect worlds we seek.
    Propagandhi - Failed States
  • Re: Women
     Reply #387 - April 11, 2010, 10:11 AM

    Yeah, and the next step is you'll get all paranoid and wimpy and start wearing socks and sandals and apologising for being male. You can get therapy for that. Beer works wonders.  Afro

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Women
     Reply #388 - April 11, 2010, 10:13 AM

    Honestly I think most men, and probably most women, are part-time sexists. You might get the occasional saint who isn't but I think they're going to be in very short supply.

    I partially agree insofar as sexism can and is levied and experience by both genders. However, I don't think sexist ideas feature as strongly in the formation of female identity as they do male identity. This is a key difference, as SubmissiveBob said it's ingrained into some of us.

    Each of us a failed state in stark relief against the backdrop of the perfect worlds we seek.
    Propagandhi - Failed States
  • Re: Women
     Reply #389 - April 11, 2010, 10:14 AM

    Yeah, and the next step is you'll get all paranoid and wimpy and start wearing socks and sandals and apologising for being male. You can get therapy for that. Beer works wonders.  Afro

    Shit, don't tell him that. It's too soon! You'll scare him away and we need another member for the hippie-fest next month.

    Each of us a failed state in stark relief against the backdrop of the perfect worlds we seek.
    Propagandhi - Failed States
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