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  • Question: Who will you vote for?
  • Labour - 1 (2.8%)
  • Conservative - 4 (11.1%)
  • Liberal Democrat - 12 (33.3%)
  • UKIP - 0 (0%)
  • SNP - 0 (0%)
  • Green - 0 (0%)
  • Democratic Unionist - 0 (0%)
  • BNP - 1 (2.8%)
  • Plaid Cymru - 0 (0%)
  • Sinn Fein - 0 (0%)
  • Ulster Unionist - 0 (0%)
  • SDLP - 0 (0%)
  • Other - 0 (0%)
  • I'm undecided. - 0 (0%)
  • I can't vote. - 13 (36.1%)
  • I won't vote. - 5 (13.9%)
  • Total Voters: 36

 Topic: The 2010 UK election - who will you vote for?

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  • Re: The 2010 UK election - who will you vote for?
     Reply #570 - May 12, 2010, 02:28 PM
    Quote from: PeruvianSkies on May 12, 2010, 01:23 PM
    Cheesy I think for the first time, me and James agree on something Tongue
    Coalition governments aren't necessarily weak, neither are single governments necessarily strong. Give it a chance Wink It may work or it may not. Plenty of coalition governments have worked in the past. At least with a coalition government, parties are forced to work together. I think Clegg is smart enough to allow this to work (at least I hope). Coalition governments can also allow opposition to controversial bills.

    After reading comments by many people on different forums, I'm surprised to find that so many PR (STV) supporters are opposed to this coalition. If you want STV, then you should be prepared for things like this happening. STV requires compromises, including ones you may not like. I'm also glad to see there are still many who are supportive of this coalition.

    I'm watching the BBC news atm. I love how they constantly announce their surprise whenever Clegg and Cameron are walking together rather calmly and happily Cheesy

    I like some of the policies that have been agreed on so far. I hope this coalition works out, otherwise you can say bye bye to PR (for now).


    Well I hope the coalition works. Any other time I would not be bothered - but in the economic climate right now, the last thing we need is dithering, arguing and endless toing and froing before decisions are made and bills passed.

    Perhaps it will work - I have warmed to Cameron somewhat and of course I'm a fan of Clegg. Maybe they can both carry their parties and make it work.
  • Re: The 2010 UK election - who will you vote for?
     Reply #571 - May 12, 2010, 02:31 PM
    Quote from: J4m3z on May 12, 2010, 01:11 PM
    Why do you want a strong government?  Huh?


    Well strong as in able to make important decisions quickly and get them through parliament without it being constantly thrown back.
  • Re: The 2010 UK election - who will you vote for?
     Reply #572 - May 12, 2010, 03:03 PM
    They have a pig now. Pork chops for dinner?  piggy
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  • Re: The 2010 UK election - who will you vote for?
     Reply #573 - May 12, 2010, 03:04 PM
    Quote
    They have a pig now.


    Yeah I've got News 24 on too and saw that.

    Anti Muslim symbolism  Huh?
    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: The 2010 UK election - who will you vote for?
     Reply #574 - May 12, 2010, 03:13 PM
     Cheesy Bet thats what the conspiracy-mad muslims will be thinking lol!
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  • Re: The 2010 UK election - who will you vote for?
     Reply #575 - May 12, 2010, 03:19 PM

    Expect the MCB to release a statement about Islamophobic porcines on Parliament Green, and Inayat Bunglawala to write a desparing article in the Guardian on it soon  piggy

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: The 2010 UK election - who will you vote for?
     Reply #576 - May 12, 2010, 03:20 PM
    Press Release
     
    MCB Welcomes New Government and the Prospect of a New Politics

    12 May 2010
     
    Dr. Muhammad Abdul Bari MBE, Secretary General of the Muslim Council of Britain, today congratulated Mr. David Cameron’s appointment as Prime Minister and welcomed Mr. Nick Clegg in his role as Deputy Prime Minister.

    He said: “I join others in conveying my good wishes to the Prime Minister and his new government. They face before them a daunting challenge, but many will be enthused and energised by the Prime Minister’s stated intention to govern in the national interest and for the common good. I hope civil society, including Muslim civil society, can play its full part during this challenging and perhaps turbulent period.”

    “I also hope this heralds a new politics where we restore trust in our democracy and our political class. We hope that the formation of the coalition government is a first step towards achieving partnership for the national interest."
     
    “I also pay tribute to the outgoing Prime Minister, Gordon Brown. His life-long dedication and commitment to public service is inspirational. I agree with David Cameron's assertion that our country is now more open at home and more outward looking abroad. We hope such a modern reflection of Britain is developed and championed by our new government.”
     
    [ENDS]
     
    Notes to Editors:

    1. During the General Election, the Muslim Council of Britain led a non-partisan voter participation campaign through it's Muslim Vote 2010 <http://www.muslimvote.org.uk/> initiative.
     
    2. The Muslim Council of Britain is the UK's largest Muslim umbrella body with around 500 affiliated national, regional and local organisations, mosques, charities and schools.
     
    3.  Media enquiries should be addressed to the MCB Media Office on 0845 26 26 786 or 07956 353 738. Email: media@mcb.org.uk
     
    4. Non-media enquiries should be addressed to the MCB Office at The Muslim Council of Britain, PO Box 57330, London E1 2WJ. Tel: 0845 26 26 786 Fax: 0207 247 7079
     
    5. This press release and other MCB publications and information are available on the MCB website at www.mcb.org.uk
  • Re: The 2010 UK election - who will you vote for?
     Reply #577 - May 12, 2010, 04:00 PM
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/8678050.stm

    I wonder how exactly the coalition "will work". Clegg pretends as if his is the party with most seats in the coalition or something.
  • Re: The 2010 UK election - who will you vote for?
     Reply #578 - May 12, 2010, 04:04 PM

    Phew! Thank god, Jamat-e-Islami disciple Muhammad Abdul Bari approves.

    Quote
    I hope civil society, including Muslim civil society, can play its full part during this challenging and perhaps turbulent period.”


    Eh  Huh? Is Muslim civil society part of our collective civil society or separate from it? Hmmm I wonder what the Maududi disciples of the MCB think.

    Quote
    “I also hope this heralds a new politics where we restore trust in our democracy and our political class. We hope that the formation of the coalition government is a first step towards achieving partnership for the national interest."


     Grin

    Just the idea of followers of Maulani Maududi yapping in this kind of rhetoric is funny.

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: The 2010 UK election - who will you vote for?
     Reply #579 - May 12, 2010, 04:20 PM
    Quote from: Hassan on May 12, 2010, 03:20 PM
    a new politics where we restore trust in our democracy and our political class.


    Anybody else see the paradox here?
    fuck you
  • Re: The 2010 UK election - who will you vote for?
     Reply #580 - May 12, 2010, 04:52 PM
    paradox is being polite
    "...every imperfection in man is a bond with heaven..." - Karl Marx
  • Re: The 2010 UK election - who will you vote for?
     Reply #581 - May 12, 2010, 05:37 PM
    Quote from: Hassan on May 12, 2010, 02:31 PM
    Well strong as in able to make important decisions quickly and get them through parliament without it being constantly thrown back.


    The downside to that is that stupid decisions get through without a problem too. Power should be divided as much as possible. I hate majority governments for that reason. If a bill, in actuality, keeps getting thrown out, ask yourself why it keeps getting thrown out. Maybe for right reasons?

    I really like how this election has turned out, to be honest. It might be a disaster, but the good thing is, and William Hague admitted it himself, is that this is the first time government is working in the interest of the people  Cheesy He probably didn't mean that literally, but there's an element of truth in it.  Tongue
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  • Re: The 2010 UK election - who will you vote for?
     Reply #582 - May 12, 2010, 05:41 PM
    Why is a majority government necessary? why not have MPs vote on any bill individually?


    Quote from: PeruvianSkies on May 12, 2010, 03:03 PM
    They have a pig now. Pork chops for dinner?  piggy

    Could you please explain?
  • Re: The 2010 UK election - who will you vote for?
     Reply #583 - May 12, 2010, 05:44 PM
    Quote
    Could you please explain?

    On the news, there was a pig outside Number 10. God knows why wacko
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  • Re: The 2010 UK election - who will you vote for?
     Reply #584 - May 12, 2010, 05:46 PM
    A real one?
  • Re: The 2010 UK election - who will you vote for?
     Reply #585 - May 12, 2010, 05:49 PM
    Yes.
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  • Re: The 2010 UK election - who will you vote for?
     Reply #586 - May 12, 2010, 05:56 PM
    Quote from: Iraqi Atheist on May 12, 2010, 05:41 PM
    Why is a majority government necessary? why not have MPs vote on any bill individually?


    I'm guessing the idea is that all the elements within a manifesto are designed to complement each other. A whole of one manifesto is smoother for the country than bits of manifestoes of every party that's managed to win a seat in parliament. The only way to ensure that a whole of one manifesto is implemented is to have a majority government. With a majority government, it doesn't matter what other MPs vote for, all that is needed is that all the MPs within the majorty government votes to pass its own proposals (which "party whips" will ensure), and they'll get what they want.

    I disagree with that because I don't think it IS important that a whole of one manifesto is implemented. I ask, wouldn't it be even better if the best bits of all the manifestoes of the parties who have representation in parliament were implemented in law? This can't happen in majority governments, but could happen in minority governments.
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  • Re: The 2010 UK election - who will you vote for?
     Reply #587 - May 12, 2010, 06:17 PM
    That is exactly my point James  Afro

    That's why I'm for establishing a non-profit parliamentary watchdog that keeps track of every MP's voting record and political position so that every voter knows where the candidates stand. That way, the voter won't be voting for parties but for policies.
  • Re: The 2010 UK election - who will you vote for?
     Reply #588 - May 12, 2010, 06:32 PM
    Government is faar too power-hungry to ever let that happen.
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  • Re: The 2010 UK election - who will you vote for?
     Reply #589 - May 12, 2010, 06:47 PM
    Well in America there are a lot of organizations that rank and score representatives and senators. The ACLU, NRA, Chamber of Commerce......etc. The only problem is the are all ideologically-biased. Still better than nothing.
  • Re: The 2010 UK election - who will you vote for?
     Reply #590 - May 12, 2010, 09:46 PM
    Quote from: Iraqi Atheist on May 12, 2010, 06:47 PM
    Well in America there are a lot of organizations that rank and score representatives and senators. The ACLU, NRA, Chamber of Commerce......etc. The only problem is the are all ideologically-biased. Still better than nothing.

    Everyone is ideologically biased in one way or another.
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  • Re: The 2010 UK election - who will you vote for?
     Reply #591 - May 13, 2010, 10:43 AM
    Look at this proposal by the Conservatives that would be very convenient for them:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8678222.stm
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  • Re: The 2010 UK election - who will you vote for?
     Reply #592 - May 13, 2010, 12:44 PM
    Yep, they are consolidating there poor performance and accordingly parliamentary strength by changing legislation.  Wow.  There's no stopping them, next they will be making parliamentary term indefinite.
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  • Re: The 2010 UK election - who will you vote for?
     Reply #593 - May 13, 2010, 02:01 PM
    What's worse, IsLame, is that Lib Dem MPs are being expected to agree to it.
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  • Re: The 2010 UK election - who will you vote for?
     Reply #594 - May 13, 2010, 02:02 PM
    Oh and another thing that is going to annoy student Lib Dem voters (like me  finmad)

    http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23833656-students-betrayed-over-lib-dem-promise-to-abolish-tuition-fees.do
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  • Re: The 2010 UK election - who will you vote for?
     Reply #595 - May 13, 2010, 02:07 PM
    Quote from: Iraqi Atheist on May 12, 2010, 06:17 PM
    That is exactly my point James  Afro

    That's why I'm for establishing a non-profit parliamentary watchdog that keeps track of every MP's voting record and political position so that every voter knows where the candidates stand. That way, the voter won't be voting for parties but for policies.


    But that would give the game away.  Tongue
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  • Re: The 2010 UK election - who will you vote for?
     Reply #596 - May 13, 2010, 02:12 PM
    Sometimes when it is election time, the media reports how certain MPs voted in the last parliament. If you dug deep enough you could probably find a voting history for all MPs. It's just not easily accessible.
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  • Re: The 2010 UK election - who will you vote for?
     Reply #597 - May 13, 2010, 02:14 PM
    Yeah, if you follow it (for instance PM Q's etc.) you can see that they only pretend to disagree most of the time. Minor variations.
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  • Re: The 2010 UK election - who will you vote for?
     Reply #598 - May 13, 2010, 03:10 PM
    Quote from: J4m3z on May 13, 2010, 02:02 PM
    Oh and another thing that is going to annoy student Lib Dem voters (like me  finmad)

    http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23833656-students-betrayed-over-lib-dem-promise-to-abolish-tuition-fees.do

    I thought they abolished this policy a while ago? Well before the election?

    In any case, that was never going to happen in this coalition.
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  • Re: The 2010 UK election - who will you vote for?
     Reply #599 - May 13, 2010, 04:03 PM
    It's great our leaders don't take each other too seriously and have a sense of humour! Nick Clegg was classic here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Z3W7dp85dY
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