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  • Muslim Marriage Witnessing Problem
     OP - April 10, 2010, 04:26 PM

    Hello guys,

    I am actually having a kind of a problem.. I am an exmuslim had been atheist for 11 years or more..

    recently i had been asked by a family member to witness in his marriage and naturally as i am living in egypt no body knows i am an atheist and i do not think its a good idea to tell him so.

    as far as i know its not allowed in his religion for an atheist to witness his marriage, i do not give a damn about the religion it self but what if a day comes and he knows i am an atheist it will look like crap and dishonesty is something that i hate,

    did any body face something like that before?? or any body knows a good islamic excuse for not witnessing..

     thnkyu
  • Re: Muslim Marriage Witnessing Problem
     Reply #1 - April 10, 2010, 04:29 PM

    Welcome to the forum kimo. Smiley

    I'm going to move this thread to the Lounge. Meanwhile, would you like to post an intro thread in the Introductions section?

    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: Muslim Marriage Witnessing Problem
     Reply #2 - April 10, 2010, 04:35 PM

    hey thanks allat for the welcome.. and yes the lounge is a better place Cheesy

    i will be posting an intro soon
  • Re: Muslim Marriage Witnessing Problem
     Reply #3 - April 10, 2010, 06:40 PM

    Ezayyak ya pasha? 3amel eeh? ahlan wasahlan lil montada *

    I lived in Egypt (6 October City) for more than a year. Used to drive to Cairo at least twice a weak, hell of a city  Afro


    Regarding your dilemma, if you're a close to the family member I think you really are in a tight spot. My advice would be to do everything you can to avoid doing it. Just make up any excuse you can.
    If you're not that close, just say you appreciate his trust and stuff but you can't do it.

    I have to say, I really respect you for valuing the importance of the ceremony to your friend even though you yourself don't give a shit about religion. That's class  Afro

    I hope other members would help you come up with better excuses.



    *Translation from Egyptian Arabic (what's up boss? how are you doing? weclome to the forum)
     
  • Re: Muslim Marriage Witnessing Problem
     Reply #4 - April 10, 2010, 10:15 PM

    Kulu tamam ya ma3lem we shockran(All is well mayor slag for boss and thanks)

    You actually survived driving in cairo and passing by HyperOne without an accident i am impressed..  grin12

    The guy is actually a close family member.. little difficult to walk away..



     
  • Re: Muslim Marriage Witnessing Problem
     Reply #5 - April 10, 2010, 10:44 PM

    Why does Egyptian Arabic have random number 3's in them?
  • Re: Muslim Marriage Witnessing Problem
     Reply #6 - April 10, 2010, 10:45 PM

    Yeah driving on the Mehwar was an adventure in itself to put it mildly  grin12

    Are you planning on going public with your apostasy? I mean does the guy actually have to know about it?
  • Re: Muslim Marriage Witnessing Problem
     Reply #7 - April 10, 2010, 10:50 PM

    Why does Egyptian Arabic have random number 3's in them?

    That's Arabic transliterated in the English alphabet. The new MTV generation use numbers that kinda resemble Arabic alphabets when transliterating.

    3=ع
    6=ط
    9=ص
    7=ح

    And so on....
  • Re: Muslim Marriage Witnessing Problem
     Reply #8 - April 10, 2010, 10:53 PM

    Oh, fair enough.
  • Re: Muslim Marriage Witnessing Problem
     Reply #9 - April 10, 2010, 10:57 PM

    I forgot to say that we don't use these numbers just for the fuck of it. It's because there is not a phonetic equivalent for them in English. You know like how French pronounce the letter R,  in English there is no letter for that sound ...
  • Re: Muslim Marriage Witnessing Problem
     Reply #10 - April 11, 2010, 12:21 PM

    Are you planning on going public with your apostasy? I mean does the guy actually have to know about it?


    Ofcourse i will not go public, its egypt man.. He does not need to know at all, but if for some reason he gets to know one day, he will never trust me again. To him i will be an immoral liar liar..

    peace
  • Re: Muslim Marriage Witnessing Problem
     Reply #11 - April 11, 2010, 12:35 PM

    Yeah I figured so, if I was in Egypt I would never tell anyone.

    You have to look at it this way, if he somehow found out you're an atheist, his trust would be the last thing you need to worry about  Wink
    Also, he will probably be more upset with your atheism than the breach of trust. Even then you can tell him that you were a Muslim at the time of the wedding and you only apostatized thereafter.

    So the best advice is try to get out of it. If you can't, make sure nobody knows about your apostasy; at least nobody that is a mutual friend.

    All the best.

  • Re: Muslim Marriage Witnessing Problem
     Reply #12 - April 11, 2010, 01:55 PM

    Hello guys,

    I am actually having a kind of a problem.. I am an exmuslim had been atheist for 11 years or more..

    recently i had been asked by a family member to witness in his marriage and naturally as i am living in egypt no body knows i am an atheist and i do not think its a good idea to tell him so.

    as far as i know its not allowed in his religion for an atheist to witness his marriage, i do not give a damn about the religion it self but what if a day comes and he knows i am an atheist it will look like crap and dishonesty is something that i hate,

    did any body face something like that before?? or any body knows a good islamic excuse for not witnessing..

     thnkyu


    Very difficult situation and I respect your desire to keep your integrity. Perhaps see if you could suggest someone else and say that you have personal reasons that you cannot discuss at the moment.

    Good luck!
  • Re: Muslim Marriage Witnessing Problem
     Reply #13 - April 12, 2010, 12:29 PM

    Thanks for the input guys i guess i found the solution..

    I will tell him that my wallet was stolen so i lost my social security.. HAHAHAHAH...

    Come on who the most creative liar here..

    .....................KIMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


     Cheesy
  • Re: Muslim Marriage Witnessing Problem
     Reply #14 - April 12, 2010, 12:33 PM

     Cheesy

    That's the most ingenious yet simplest excuse. Lost my ID  !!!
  • Re: Muslim Marriage Witnessing Problem
     Reply #15 - April 12, 2010, 01:42 PM

    lol... go for it  Afro
  • Re: Muslim Marriage Witnessing Problem
     Reply #16 - April 12, 2010, 01:47 PM

    btw talking of driving in Cairo, I used to drive my brother-in-law's car regularly around Cairo from Masri el-Gedida where he lived to my aunt's flat in el-Maniel and it was an absolute nightmare! I saw a terrible accident on Shari' Salah Salem (I think that's it's name - big road that goes past the city of the dead) where a motorcyclist was tossed several feet in the air and cars piled up - horrible!

    I've driven in UK, France, Spain, Morocco and Egypt and I have to say Egypt is the worst!
  • Re: Muslim Marriage Witnessing Problem
     Reply #17 - April 12, 2010, 03:08 PM

    I have driven in Cairo and I have driven in New Delhi.... Hassan, let me tell you Cairo is not the worst.  yes

    ...
  • Re: Muslim Marriage Witnessing Problem
     Reply #18 - April 12, 2010, 03:14 PM

    lol.. OK well I've never driven in New Delhi so I'll take your word for it.
  • Re: Muslim Marriage Witnessing Problem
     Reply #19 - April 12, 2010, 05:54 PM

     Cheesy

    ...
  • Re: Muslim Marriage Witnessing Problem
     Reply #20 - April 12, 2010, 10:51 PM

    btw talking of driving in Cairo, I used to drive my brother-in-law's car regularly around Cairo from Masri el-Gedida where he lived to my aunt's flat in el-Maniel and it was an absolute nightmare! I saw a terrible accident on Shari' Salah Salem (I think that's it's name - big road that goes past the city of the dead) where a motorcyclist was tossed several feet in the air and cars piled up - horrible!

    I've driven in UK, France, Spain, Morocco and Egypt and I have to say Egypt is the worst!


    Motorcyclist tossed several feet in the air we have 5 of those everyday.. the latest was two days back guess what.. "A young boy feel from a hole on a bridge" Like can you even imagine that..

    You got the name right its salah salem
  • Re: Muslim Marriage Witnessing Problem
     Reply #21 - April 12, 2010, 10:53 PM

    I have driven in Cairo and I have driven in New Delhi.... Hassan, let me tell you Cairo is not the worst.  yes


     Smiley  lahore in pakistan, can compete with new delhi and cairo when it gets to driving..
  • Re: Muslim Marriage Witnessing Problem
     Reply #22 - April 13, 2010, 12:07 AM

    I swear to god, once I was driving on the Cairo Ring Road (Al Da'iri) and a bus stopped in the LEFT LANE to drop off passengers  :Dcan't make this shit up !
  • Re: Muslim Marriage Witnessing Problem
     Reply #23 - April 14, 2010, 01:21 PM

    In Saudi you have to watch for cars from above... Seriously
  • Re: Muslim Marriage Witnessing Problem
     Reply #24 - April 14, 2010, 01:27 PM

    In Saudi you have to watch for cars from above... Seriously


     Cheesy

  • Re: Muslim Marriage Witnessing Problem
     Reply #25 - April 14, 2010, 01:34 PM

    Smiley  lahore in pakistan, can compete with new delhi and cairo when it gets to driving..



    Nothing scared me more when I was in Pakistan than riding in an automobile.   Especially when the driver takes delight in playing chicken with every oncooming vehicle and you pass several teeny-tiny tractors which have toppled off the side of the road due to their HUGE loads of cotton, grain, etc.  wacko

    Atheism is a non-prophet organization.

    The sleeper has awakened -  Dune

    Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day Give him a religion, and he'll starve to death while praying for a fish!
  • Re: Muslim Marriage Witnessing Problem
     Reply #26 - April 14, 2010, 01:49 PM

    In Saudi you have to watch for cars from above... Seriously

     Cheesy
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