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 Topic: Parenting

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  • Parenting
     OP - May 29, 2011, 04:51 PM

      I can't help but laugh at the irony of possibly raising a little theist.  My daughter has insisted on going to the Sunday school all her cousins are attending.  As much as I disliked the idea (and even considered refusing), I let her attend.  I had struggled with the idea of exposing her culturally vs not bringing up the issue at all, but in the end, I think this is what works for us.  As long as she insists on going, I am not going to stop her - after all, I'm the one who put/reinforced all kinds of nonsense into her head when she was younger and I was still a theist.  I realize its unfair for me to expect her follow my lead especially when she still young enough to struggle with separating fantasy from fiction.

    Right now, she gets no reinforcement at home, but throughout the week, its become sort of fun dissecting what she has been taught on Sunday.  I plan on volunteering at one of the Camp Quests in my area next year when she becomes old enough to attend and hope to turn that into a annual thing to really counter all these sundays.

    Anyway, this has made my lovely mother very happy, sometimes I am a bit too hard on her.  In talking to her today, I was surprised when she said "it does no good to be angry at god as you have been. It's important for you to know that a mother's prayers for her child is powerful."  Mom, god already has this big plan set out, nothing I do is going to change that. "yes well, a mother's intervening for her child is very powerful, there was this <insert fantastical story here illustrating the power of a mother's dua>"  Um, where did that happen, what was the guy's name?  "Do you want me to hold your hand and take you to the place?! It happened!"  we both laugh and we go back and forth with me pointing out how she either has a god who has this great, big plan that is already set or we can have prayers to change that plan in which case there is no plan.  The conversation ends as it always does with her giving up and saying "oh, you know too much." (which is not a compliment).

    What I love about this is that she has taken my non-practice (I don't actually tell her I am not a Muslim!) pretty well, considering.

  • Re: Parenting
     Reply #1 - May 29, 2011, 07:17 PM

    I don't think it's guaranteed that sunday school will make your daughter a theist. It's not the only environment she's exposed to y'know.

    I know someday you'll have a beautiful life, I know you'll be a star
    In somebody else's sky, but why, why, why
    Can't it be, can't it be mine

    https://twitter.com/AlharbiMoe
  • Re: Parenting
     Reply #2 - May 29, 2011, 07:23 PM

    No, I get that, but its the only place where she gets a concentrated dose.  She likes Zeus and all his escapades and I'm looking into visiting a Hindu temple in my area (if they allow visitors) withher just so other religions don't become this THING for her that it was for me.  I used to feel dirty/uncomfortable if I walked into a church or a shia mosque.  I would try not to breathe in the air.   Cheesy  That feeling is lessening the longer I'm an atheist.
  • Re: Parenting
     Reply #3 - May 29, 2011, 07:29 PM

    My daughter has insisted on going to the Sunday school all her cousins are attending.


    Well as a kid you don't want to be left out, I think she just wants go for the environment with all her cousins being there and what not. I agree with MoeAlharbi, it's not like shes going to be suddenly turned into a theist the next morning. Anyways, I think it's alright for a little kid to learn about different cultures/religion, as long as the sunday school isn't forcing it down her throat then there shouldn't be anything to worry about. It's great that your child isn't ignorant over others views by learning to respect others beliefs, hell I was the only kid in my family to visit churches, synagogue's and sikh temples, look how I turned out Roll Eyes

    07:54 <harakaat>: you must be jema
    07:54 <harakaat>: considering how annoying you are
  • Re: Parenting
     Reply #4 - May 29, 2011, 07:33 PM

    It's understandable that the gut reaction would be to try and shield your daughter from all things religious, but I think that would actually backfire. She'd end up being more curious and easily swayed by the 'mysticism' of it all.
    It makes more sense to expose her to all types of religious beliefs and probably gently try to dissect them all, encouraging her to be critical and not take religious 'facts' at face value.

  • Re: Parenting
     Reply #5 - May 29, 2011, 07:34 PM

    No, I get that, but its the only place where she gets a concentrated dose.

    yeah I'm probably confusing sunday school with catholic school

    Cool, Fombles. I went to a church and a synagogue. I've always wanted to see temples outside the Abrahamic religions.

    I know someday you'll have a beautiful life, I know you'll be a star
    In somebody else's sky, but why, why, why
    Can't it be, can't it be mine

    https://twitter.com/AlharbiMoe
  • Re: Parenting
     Reply #6 - May 29, 2011, 07:42 PM

    Yeah, the Sikh temples are pretty interesting, though you weren't allowed to go past this curtain which had a bed in it, I can't remember specifically but apparently it had a Guru in it (spiritually speaking I'd assume).

    07:54 <harakaat>: you must be jema
    07:54 <harakaat>: considering how annoying you are
  • Re: Parenting
     Reply #7 - May 29, 2011, 10:35 PM

    I think you have the right attitude, preventing them from experiencing these things can often lead to the reverse of what you wanted in the first place.

    I constantly reinforce to my children that what they choose to explore, like my son wanting to be a christian (which he isn't thank goodness lol), is totally their choice.  My only request is that they look at all beliefs, and explore the views from all sides before making a choice.

    Who knows if religious desire will rise up in them again one day, but for now it hardly comes up at the moment.  I would say right now they are atheists, but I doubt this is something that won't be tested one day.

    Either way, even if I hate it, its something we have to let them experience for themselves.

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
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