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 Topic: Hi I'm Saffire

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  • Re: Hi I'm Saffire
     Reply #30 - August 08, 2011, 03:06 AM

    Welcome Saffire!  parrot

    I really do apologise for what happened in the chat. It's not normally like that.  far away hug

    But welcome! I hope you'll find some friends here.  Smiley

    Life is what happens to you while you're staring at your smartphone.

    Eternal Sunshine of the Religionless Mind
  • Re: Hi I'm Saffire
     Reply #31 - August 08, 2011, 04:14 AM

    Also this whole shotgun thing sounds absolutely shocking.

    Life is what happens to you while you're staring at your smartphone.

    Eternal Sunshine of the Religionless Mind
  • Re: Hi I'm Saffire
     Reply #32 - August 08, 2011, 04:50 AM

    Don't worry about the paranoid freaks in chat. Most of the fuckers change their username 134 times a day anyway.

    Besides, you're not exactly missing much. If you ever want a measure of the wisdom to be found in chat, just look at some of the daily highlights in people's signatures on the forum.


    rofl

    "I'm standing here like an asshole holding my Charles Dickens"

    "No theory,No ready made system,no book that has ever been written to save the world. i cleave to no system.."-Bakunin
  • Re: Hi I'm Saffire
     Reply #33 - August 08, 2011, 08:18 AM

    Would it be possible to pass the chat logs on to us SC? 


    Hello again?

    Kod, could you please pass the chat logs for this incident over to us?




    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Hi I'm Saffire
     Reply #34 - August 08, 2011, 08:45 AM

    Nevermind, they had been emailed to me.   Afro

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Hi I'm Saffire
     Reply #35 - August 08, 2011, 08:56 AM

    Ok, I read the chat logs, although they don't stretch to cover your entire time they do cover your arrival, which would have made me wonder if you were a troll.  You get a lot of sleazy guys arriving looking purely for ex muslim females, so had I been on chat that night I most likely would have been worse than they were, in suspicion.  Which is not a good thing because a newb may have just said something in the wrong way.

    Also, I can not for the life of me understand why anyone on there kept saying you were me because you LOL'ed, or simply because other members don't sound like you, FFS I don't sound like you.  

    If I had been trolling chat you know it would have been as a penis, or someone's anus and not as an asian ex muslim looking for female ex muslims.  Does nobody actually know me that well?


    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Hi I'm Saffire
     Reply #36 - August 08, 2011, 12:16 PM

    It seems hard for everyone right now, not to let the chat episode define your stay at CEMB so far… but, I can see from your post regarding your journey to us, that there is so much more to you. Thanks for writing all of that: I found it a fascinating read and, as Lara said, I think that if you manage to overcome the current chat-storm that you seem to be within, you will become a valuable member on here, with much to contribute.

    Anyways, a few bits stood out for my in your post about Islam:

    I have always wished for their to be a god, a loving omnipotent being who only wants good things for me but instead all I found in islam was a petty cruel god that demanded people to perform pointless tasks to appease him/her! I love star trek and I felt like this 'god' was akin to an entity that literally feeds off the servitude of others. When you read the quran it demands, orders, forces, pleads, cajoles, does everything to convince people to believe so desperately as though 'god' would not exist without prayers and belief to feed him/her! This seemed so ridiculous to me.

    That’s a pretty good way of looking at the Islamic God. I’m a fan of Star Trek also, and I can see the Islamic God easily fitting into a baddie role within a one hour-long episode, where he can be easily explained, dissected, scorned at, pitied, and finally defeated in time for the group hug at the end of the episode. However, I can’t help but feel that the scriptwriters would face a huge headache dealing with the schizophrenic, contradictory nature of this particular baddie, and I would not envy them the task of writing a coherent episode as a result of that.

    I got close. I got engaged to one, he was the least muslim muslim man I knew so I thought this would be a good compromise. I could leave home respectably then live as I chose. However, I felt suffocated beneath this lie. I never loved this guy, he was just a way for me! Thankfully I came to my senses and broke off the engagement!

    This subject is close to my heart because I did end up marrying a Muslim despite my apostasy (and I am still with her). Obviously, the fact that you did not love the guy was justification enough for you to walk away. But, I wonder, would you have stayed with him if you had loved him (and despite his belief in Islam)?

    I continued living at home until I could no longer bear it. Over the many years I had spiralled downward into depression due to all of this- my mum is a great person and unfortunately when depressed you usually take it out on your nearest and dearest. I resented her, for her goodness (letting people take the piss!), for her faith! It angered me. I started to get anxiety attacks. I was at this time living partially away from home at uni- I went home less and less, each time dreading going there, feeling suffocated when I neared the town

    I’m sorry to hear this. Many of us here have had similar experiences with depression, sometimes directly as a result of dealing with the pressures of apostasy. Should you wish to get a sense of the difficulties that others have faced on this forum, the following threads may be some use to you:

    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=10834.25

    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=12753.0

    In the end I realised that I had to leave. I knew that this would probably kill my mum but if I continued living this lie I'd die or go crazy at the very least! I had to go! Living a lie is the hardest thing, it destroys you from the inside out and I just couldn't do it any more. I left and not secretly.
    ---
    My family know I am not muslim- my sister talks to me but won't allow me any contact with her children- she fears I will influence them! My mum hasn't spoken to me since I left, neither has my brother. It breaks my heart. I've lost so much just for my beliefs.

    You sound like a very brave individual for making the choice that you did by openly declaring your apostasy to your family. Many of us on here have stood at a similar crossroads, and faced the choice of either remaining true to ourselves, or remaining quiet in order to keep the peace with our family and friends. Not all of us have chosen to travel down the seemingly more difficult path that you have chosen to go down: I can only commend you for your bravery and hope that things improve between you and your family in the years to come.

    Anyways, forgive me for going on and on: someone recently showed me how to use the multi-quote thingy on this forum, and I felt like showing off grin12

    Hi
  • Re: Hi I'm Saffire
     Reply #37 - August 08, 2011, 03:12 PM

    Don't worry about the paranoid dweebs of chat (not including Qman) no one takes them seriously on the forum anyway its a bunch of teenagers who can't even get more then 10 subscribers on their youtube page, but still have a delusion of being philosophy gurus.
  • Re: Hi I'm Saffire
     Reply #38 - August 08, 2011, 07:09 PM

    The shotgun guy was Qman, I take it? Cheesy

    When you join a chatroom like this

    [01:21:21] *** Sapphire has joined #exmuslim
    [01:21:42] <Sapphire> any girls here from the UK?

    and then say you don't know what a 'troll' is supposed to be, people are going to be suspicious... anyway, I left soon after so I don't know what happened, but I would advise you to put it behind you, the chat is a place for silly talk, and it's often targeted by trolls, you were told to make an intro on the forum and you've done so now, so hopefully people will know who you are if you ever go back on there. Though I will say that calling everyone whores and immoral isn't the way to endear yourself to people.

    Hello, BTW.
  • Re: Hi I'm Saffire
     Reply #39 - August 08, 2011, 10:33 PM

    That chat sucks.
    I know cause I am there often Cheesy

    It's a clique of people saying stupid shit and making fun of each other all the time, often changing nicks on purpose.
    It's almost inevitable that they go paranoid when somebody new arrives ^_^

    Do not look directly at the operational end of the device.
  • Re: Hi I'm Saffire
     Reply #40 - August 08, 2011, 11:02 PM

    Even though I've never been on chat, I feel that the bashing it has received recently is slightly unfair. The reasons why this mistake with Saffire has happened, have been discussed both here and on another thread, so I won't go into them here. What I will say is that I have gotten to know some of the people that go into chat, because they regularly post on this forum also. IMHO, these individuals are very good people in general, and they are as decent, as friendly, and as moral as any that I've ever met, both on and off this forum. Therefore, IMO, if there is a problem, it is perhaps with the fact that the (inevitably) relaxed and jovial nature of chat is not always the best place for Noobs to go to. And IMO, the problem does not generally lie with the actual people who frequently go on the there... I suppose I'm babbling because I feel it is important to bear that distinction in mind.

    Saffire: sorry for trolling your thread.

    Hi
  • Re: Hi I'm Saffire
     Reply #41 - August 09, 2011, 12:10 AM

    Welcome Saffire, sorry that you had such a negative experience. Here hugs make everything better  Big hug. I personally have never been in the chat ^_^ the forums are much nicer. I hope you join us in topic discussions.

    ***~Church is where bad people go to hide~***
  • Re: Hi I'm Saffire
     Reply #42 - August 09, 2011, 12:12 AM

    Anyways, forgive me for going on and on: someone recently showed me how to use the multi-quote thingy on this forum, and I felt like showing off grin12

    You're doing it the hard way.
  • Re: Hi I'm Saffire
     Reply #43 - August 09, 2011, 07:25 AM

    'Berbs' I have mentioned this recently also- that these people accusing me of being you are supposed to know you. Now, I don't know you but I highly doubt that I communicate exactly like you- people who know you should be able to tell when someone clearly isn't you

    Regarding the marriage thing, would I have married a muslim if I loved him? This question can't be answered since I couldn't love a person who believes in a religion like that. I am an ardent believer in rights and equality- for a person to believe in islam they would have to believe in the inferiority of women amongst other terrible things- I could never love someone so ignorant!
  • Re: Hi I'm Saffire
     Reply #44 - August 14, 2011, 11:05 PM

    heyyy
    welcome


    btw u completely owned that bloke in the other thread
  • Re: Hi I'm Saffire
     Reply #45 - August 14, 2011, 11:13 PM

    Lol thanks.  Afro

    Which thread? Which guy??  cool2

     grin12
  • Re: Hi I'm Saffire
     Reply #46 - August 14, 2011, 11:16 PM

    the quranist in the aisha thread
  • Re: Hi I'm Saffire
     Reply #47 - August 14, 2011, 11:24 PM

    Haha yeah, he got owned. A lot of muslims try to get clever- they ignorantly assume that we apostates are stupid asserting that we misunderstand or haven't studied or left islam for a life of debauchery.
  • Re: Hi I'm Saffire
     Reply #48 - August 15, 2011, 01:26 PM

    Saffire.. how are things with you, now that the insane chat drama has been realized,
    and just moving on  LOLOL 

     far away hug

    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
  • Re: Hi I'm Saffire
     Reply #49 - August 15, 2011, 05:53 PM

    Hi things are the same. The drama was sort of fun but alas it is over :(

    Generally though life's the same- work work work sleep sleep sleep. That's pretty much it really. How about you? How's life?  Smiley
  • Re: Hi I'm Saffire
     Reply #50 - August 16, 2011, 01:02 AM

    Hi Saffire, I must say I was wrong about you. Most of your posts since you've joined this forum have been well thought out and insightful.

    I'm sorry for being overly paranoid about you when you first came here and I hope that you'll continue to contribute to the forums. Please except my welcome here, and have a rabbit!  bunny

    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • Re: Hi I'm Saffire
     Reply #51 - August 16, 2011, 01:05 AM

    Hi thanks for that- Thanks for the rabbit. Here's a parrot  parrot
  • Re: Hi I'm Saffire
     Reply #52 - August 16, 2011, 03:46 PM

    Have a raccoon:

    Look at his sexy little dance-- what a tease!

    "In battle, the well-honed spork is more dangerous than the mightiest sword" -- Sun Tzu
  • Re: Hi I'm Saffire
     Reply #53 - August 16, 2011, 03:57 PM



    Slut

    Formerly known as Iblis
  • Re: Hi I'm Saffire
     Reply #54 - August 16, 2011, 04:48 PM

    saffire setting this place on fire

    bad pun  Cry
  • Re: Hi I'm Saffire
     Reply #55 - August 16, 2011, 05:30 PM

    Haha

    Hm... the racoon is sorta sexy... since I don't believe there's a god, who can say what's right or wrong... as long as nobody finds out hehe

      Wink
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