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  • Re: Ever Heard Of A Muslim Vegan?
     Reply #30 - November 10, 2011, 04:40 AM
    LOL.

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    islam is pro animal welfare.

    Mate, come on, really?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhabihah
    Against the ruin of the world, there
    is only one defense: the creative act.

    -- Kenneth Rexroth
  • Re: Ever Heard Of A Muslim Vegan?
     Reply #31 - November 10, 2011, 04:42 AM
    i said welfare, not rights. muslims believe halal to be the most humane way of killing animals.
  • Re: Ever Heard Of A Muslim Vegan?
     Reply #32 - November 10, 2011, 04:50 AM
    Either term hardly means much when claimed by anyone who slaughters animals for no other reason (or necessity) than their enjoyment in eating them, let alone for sacrificial craziness.

    This is one thing.  The other is when, in this modern age, they slaughter them in the religious fashion that they call kosher and halal.
    Against the ruin of the world, there
    is only one defense: the creative act.

    -- Kenneth Rexroth
  • Re: Ever Heard Of A Muslim Vegan?
     Reply #33 - November 10, 2011, 04:54 AM
    Quote from: Abood on November 10, 2011, 04:42 AM
    muslims believe halal to be the most humane way of killing animals.

    And NAMBLA believe that having sex with children is the most loving way of treating them.
    Against the ruin of the world, there
    is only one defense: the creative act.

    -- Kenneth Rexroth
  • Re: Ever Heard Of A Muslim Vegan?
     Reply #34 - November 10, 2011, 04:55 AM
    except on a certain day.  Then it's strongly suggested that animals should be killed for no other reason to celebrate an attempted murder
    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: Ever Heard Of A Muslim Vegan?
     Reply #35 - November 10, 2011, 04:59 AM
    Quote from: Abood on November 10, 2011, 04:42 AM
    i said welfare, not rights. muslims believe halal to be the most humane way of killing animals.


    Is there any scientific evidence for that claim? I've talked to people in the agriculture/meat industry who witnessed Kosher and Halal slaughters and they say Kosher/Halal slaughter is the most humane method they've ever saw.
  • Re: Ever Heard Of A Muslim Vegan?
     Reply #36 - November 10, 2011, 05:00 AM
    You mean inhumane?
    Against the ruin of the world, there
    is only one defense: the creative act.

    -- Kenneth Rexroth
  • Re: Ever Heard Of A Muslim Vegan?
     Reply #37 - November 10, 2011, 05:01 AM
    Quote from: deusvult on November 10, 2011, 04:55 AM
    except on a certain day.  Then it's strongly suggested that animals should be killed for no other reason to celebrate an attempted murder


    On this point though I don't want to disagree with Abood completely though.  There are a lot and very good provisions laid out in Islam for the treatment of animals.  
    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: Ever Heard Of A Muslim Vegan?
     Reply #38 - November 10, 2011, 05:08 AM
    Quote from: arX on November 10, 2011, 05:00 AM
    You mean inhumane?


    I'm only going by their statements.


  • Re: Ever Heard Of A Muslim Vegan?
     Reply #39 - November 10, 2011, 05:11 AM
    humane = generous and good, best of humanity, compassionate  inhuman = very bad, cruel, not human like
    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: Ever Heard Of A Muslim Vegan?
     Reply #40 - November 10, 2011, 05:13 AM
    Quote from: QueenIsabel on November 10, 2011, 05:08 AM
    I'm only going by their statements.

    I mean, did you mistakenly type humane instead of inhumane here?

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    they say Kosher/Halal slaughter is the most humane method they've ever saw


    Because that would be surprising, coming from agricultural folk, who've surely heard of the methods rendering an animal unconscious first.
    Against the ruin of the world, there
    is only one defense: the creative act.

    -- Kenneth Rexroth
  • Re: Ever Heard Of A Muslim Vegan?
     Reply #41 - November 10, 2011, 05:24 AM
    Quote from: arX on November 10, 2011, 04:07 AM
    Then shut the fuck up.


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    Formerly known as Iblis
  • Re: Ever Heard Of A Muslim Vegan?
     Reply #42 - November 10, 2011, 05:28 AM
    Quote
    I mean, did you mistakenly type humane instead of inhumane here?


    I'm not saying Kosher/Halal is humane, they are.

    Quote
    Because that would be surprising, coming from agricultural folk, who've surely heard of the methods rendering an animal unconscious first.


    Well they say it is very fast.

    As for rendering animals unconscious they also say at times the taser does not work the first time, therefore the animals will have to be tasered several more times to knock them out.
  • Re: Ever Heard Of A Muslim Vegan?
     Reply #43 - November 10, 2011, 05:30 AM
    RPG. Works first time, every time.
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  • Re: Ever Heard Of A Muslim Vegan?
     Reply #44 - November 10, 2011, 05:32 AM
    Against the ruin of the world, there
    is only one defense: the creative act.

    -- Kenneth Rexroth
  • Re: Ever Heard Of A Muslim Vegan?
     Reply #45 - November 10, 2011, 05:35 AM
     Cheesy
    Formerly known as Iblis
  • Re: Ever Heard Of A Muslim Vegan?
     Reply #46 - November 10, 2011, 05:43 AM
    Quote from: QueenIsabel on November 10, 2011, 05:28 AM
    I'm not saying Kosher/Halal is humane, they are.

    Well they say it is very fast.

    Then you've been talking to some dumbarse farmers.

    http://www.dialrel.eu/images/veterinary-concerns.pdf
    Against the ruin of the world, there
    is only one defense: the creative act.

    -- Kenneth Rexroth
  • Re: Ever Heard Of A Muslim Vegan?
     Reply #47 - November 10, 2011, 03:43 PM
    Quote from: arX on November 10, 2011, 05:32 AM
    (Clicky for piccy!)


     Cheesy
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