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  • There's repulsive, and then there's MRA repulsive
     OP - July 09, 2013, 10:46 AM

    A Voice for Men appears to have had its odd supporter here. Guys, do you have any comments on this?

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    A husband cannot fulfil his duty provide for a wife if someone else’s wife displaces him from the workforce. A husband cannot fulfil his duty to ensure his family has the things they need if he doesn’t manage the family purse. A husband cannot fulfil his duty to protect a wife if she is not required to duck when he tells her to duck.

    Historically, all of these things–provisioning, protection and support–were FEMALE entitlements. This is female privilege. And, though I hate to borrow a phrase from feminism, what happened in Afghanistan around barring women from work and girls from education, is essentially female privilege backfiring on women and girls. When jobs are scarce, you don’t give them to people who have an entitlement to benefit from the obligation of others to work. When education is scarce, you don’t give that to people who have an entitlement to benefit from the obligation of others that is facilitated by education. You give those things to the people who have a duty to share the benefits of them with others, not the people who are legally allowed to hog all those benefits for themselves.

    Afghanistan is not a society that oppresses women. It’s a society where everyone’s stuck in the grip of cruel circumstances and Islamic laws that burden men with duties that require rights, and bestow entitlements on women that don’t, and coping the best way they can. And the only way you’re going to “improve” the situation for women and girls in Afghanistan, you know, get them access to jobs outside the home or to educations and not have a huge backlash, is to remove the entitlement women have to the material support and protection of men, and thereby remove men’s obligation to provide those things. Until you do those things, you’re just spinning your wheels, and harming the only people who have any obligation to anyone but themselves, while handing unfettered potential to earn money and power to people who don’t even have a duty to feed of their own children.


    That's right. The MRA's poster child for women against feminism actually believes that the state of women's rights in Afghanistan is the fault of, er.. Afghan women. How is this possible?
  • There's repulsive, and then there's MRA repulsive
     Reply #1 - July 09, 2013, 11:24 AM

    I just skimmed through parts of the article and man the author seems crazy.

    It seems in that one article the author just said that

       1) Women were never oppressed
     
        2) Women in muslim countries are not oppressed


    The following quote is one of the most ridiculous things I have read in a while.

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    Now, I mentioned to the journalist, Mika, that the Taliban had been very clever in how they forced both genders into very restricted and regimented sets of roles and duties. They restrict the freedoms of those who value safety over freedom (women), and they thereby impose the role of protector/provider–falsely naming it “freedom”–on those who value freedom over safety (men).


    In my opinion a life without curiosity is not a life worth living
  • There's repulsive, and then there's MRA repulsive
     Reply #2 - July 09, 2013, 06:07 PM

    How is this possible?

    She's a fringe group mouthpiece. I suspect she just writes to appeal to the prejudices of her fanbase. She seems too smart to genuinely believe what she just wrote. Then again, smarter people have believed dumber shit.

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • There's repulsive, and then there's MRA repulsive
     Reply #3 - July 09, 2013, 06:30 PM

    She's a fascinatingly repulsive person, in line with the likes of Sarah Palin, only she tries to appear intellectual-y. Her Youtube channel is full of crap such as this or even worse. And yes a couple of people have posted here in the past her videos as though that is making some kind of point in their favour, when it only really demeans any arguments they were trying to make.

    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • There's repulsive, and then there's MRA repulsive
     Reply #4 - July 09, 2013, 06:34 PM

    A Voice for Men appears to have had its odd supporter here. Guys, do you have any comments on this?

    That's right. The MRA's poster child for women against feminism actually believes that the state of women's rights in Afghanistan is the fault of, er.. Afghan women. How is this possible?


    I just don't get it...  Why would any fool write  an article about Women in Afghanistan or women In Islam in that silly magazine  called as

      

    Wrong topic to discuss in that .,  the subjects like this one  11 more reasons not to marry should be   discussed there..

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    1. Your wife won’t be able to manipulate you by withholding sex.

    2. You won’t have to lose your vintage porn collection.

    3. You can drive any car that suits your fancy.

    4. You won’t have to compromise your religious beliefs, or lack thereof.

    5. You won’t have to watch/hold/carry/rebuild her fucking purse.

    6. You can undertake risky ventures without being undermined by your wife.

    10. You won’t suffer the marriage tax penalty – or subsidize her shoe collection....

    and so on .. Don't talk about serious subjects..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • There's repulsive, and then there's MRA repulsive
     Reply #5 - July 09, 2013, 06:38 PM

    It's a shame. I liked a couple of her vids. I think she did a critique on Atheism+ or something. Maybe I'm thinking of someone else though.

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • There's repulsive, and then there's MRA repulsive
     Reply #6 - July 10, 2013, 05:22 PM

    Yuck, this woman. I’ve watched some of her vids (after I was directed to her by a now non-active forum member who was a fan Roll Eyes ) and come across some of her screeds on reddit. It’s quite pathetic how “men’s rights” and “compassion for men and boys” appears to be all about down-playing rape and promoting the oppression of women.
  • There's repulsive, and then there's MRA repulsive
     Reply #7 - July 11, 2013, 12:11 AM

    Lemme guess was that non active forum member "ZOMG" ?

    In my opinion a life without curiosity is not a life worth living
  • There's repulsive, and then there's MRA repulsive
     Reply #8 - July 11, 2013, 12:44 AM

    Lemme guess was that non active forum member "ZOMG" ?

    No, you are wrong Rebel.,   that non active member is piero scaruffi     To figure out the puzzle go to the link and read  post #68

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • There's repulsive, and then there's MRA repulsive
     Reply #9 - July 11, 2013, 07:17 AM

    Lemme guess was that non active forum member "ZOMG" ?

    No, it was another guy.
  • There's repulsive, and then there's MRA repulsive
     Reply #10 - July 11, 2013, 07:18 AM

    No, you are wrong Rebel.,   that non active member is piero scaruffi     To figure out the puzzle go to the link and read  post #68

    Wut?
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