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  • Friendship
     OP - October 03, 2013, 05:35 PM

    What does friendship means to you?

    In what ways do you regard someone as your close friend?


    "I'm standing here like an asshole holding my Charles Dickens"

    "No theory,No ready made system,no book that has ever been written to save the world. i cleave to no system.."-Bakunin
  • Friendship
     Reply #1 - October 03, 2013, 07:45 PM

    Real friendship is just an amazing adventure. You can be in a crowd and feel alone but when you have a real, true friend...it's wonderful
    It feels like there is someone that really cares about you. Whenever you feel sad you know that you can have a shoulder to cry on.
     Real friendships are really very hard to find, but when you find,  you just need to be careful to not hurt them!
    I have never been very lucky in friendships and it's quite difficult for me to trust people, i got hurt so many times.
    But i know this world is full of beautiful loving people  Smiley

  • Friendship
     Reply #2 - October 03, 2013, 10:28 PM

    Love, respect, trust, camaraderie.

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Friendship
     Reply #3 - October 03, 2013, 11:01 PM

    I have no true friends, I have always been weird.
    People like me, but I just cannot make true friends. We have  different words for a friend and true friend in my language. (Kaveri=friend, ystävä=true friend)
    I have had many kaveri's but last ystävä I had when I was like 6, if even then.

    I imagine friendship is comfortable, loving, sharing, trusting and loyal.

    I ask many stupid questions frequently.
    I am curious, that's why I ask many questions.
    I am overly curious, that's why I ask stupid questions.
    I lack patience, that's why I ask frequently.
    So forgive me and answer me Smiley
  • Friendship
     Reply #4 - October 04, 2013, 01:41 PM

    So I'm not your true friend?  Cry
  • Friendship
     Reply #5 - October 04, 2013, 02:04 PM

    A true friend can be relied upon to tell me when I'm being a dick (or worse), and vice versa.
  • Friendship
     Reply #6 - October 04, 2013, 02:10 PM

    A true friend is someone I can share all of my problems and deepest insecurities with without feeling like they will judge me on it.


    In my opinion a life without curiosity is not a life worth living
  • Friendship
     Reply #7 - October 04, 2013, 06:33 PM

    So I'm not your true friend?  Cry


    Do not fall in sadness my friend, of course you are, but you live in Scotland and we know only thru' our nicknames.
    Bromance 4ever? No hard feelings?  far away hug

    I ask many stupid questions frequently.
    I am curious, that's why I ask many questions.
    I am overly curious, that's why I ask stupid questions.
    I lack patience, that's why I ask frequently.
    So forgive me and answer me Smiley
  • Friendship
     Reply #8 - October 17, 2013, 02:45 PM

    What does friendship means to you?

    In what ways do you regard someone as your close friend?




    Friendship means a companion who I can get together and have fun with.
  • Friendship
     Reply #9 - October 17, 2013, 06:41 PM

    Today a friend, by asking a simple question, put me in a position I've felt aversive towards for quite some time. One of the beauties of friendship lies in sacrifice. The very compulsion to take a friend's side, to defend and support, even if it will cost you in one way or another. But would you jump in between your friend and a bullet? If this made you feel suspicious about yourself, I can relate with you. I felt suspicious of myself because my answer was clearly negative. I wouldn't be able to do something of that caliber. It requires a reservoir of selflessness, fearlessness and courage I cannot claim to have. When Biggie Smalls still was a drug dealer, he and a couple of friends were caught in the act, as it were, by undercover cops and chased down the streets. One particular friend decided to claim possession of all the drugs, turn around and give himself in, granting Biggie Smalls enough time to get away. It was an act of selflessness that gave Biggie his pass into the rap scene, while plunging his friend into the pit of incarceration, in effect the latter took upon himself the jail time of the former (Biggie was an obese fatty and would've stood no chance in a real chase). Despite this heroism I cannot help being critical towards this kind of ultra-sacrificial behavior. Imagine how much more helpful a friend of yours would've been if he could stop you from trespassing into the destructive thug life in the first place, without which the possibilities of a gun battle or a prison time becomes much less probable? Imagine if this friend of yours didn't blindly float with you on your way to thuggishness and violence? Imagine if this friend instead inspired a sparkle in you, to pursue a dream and achieve goals. Maybe this type of friend is less courageous and heroic, but nonetheless this type has partly or maybe wholly succeeded in changing your life. This way, your friend has done you an enormous favor and this without putting you in a position where your continued existence or freedom lies in the annihilation or incarceration of your dearest friend. I might be excused for resembling a staunch utilitarian on this one.

    Before I'm accused of dodging certain elements of my friend's question, I might as well address how much different the scenario would've been if I found my friend involved in a random shooting, Columbine maybe or Utøya. Here the friend of mine is guilty of no flirt with gangsterism but is instead no more than a victim. In other words, there is nothing I possibly could've done, retrospectively, to save my friend from a scenario like this before it occurred. If we've learned anything about human behaviour during shootings like these, it's the explosion of unwavering panic, paired with a similarly unwavering tendency to exclude anything and anyone that has nothing to do with the nearest table to duck under. I don't think I'm being cynical as much as I'm being realistic when I say that egoism is a natural instinct when we feel deeply endangered. The self-proclaimed islamic prophet Muhammad would've been a useful novelist, had he not claimed it to be the literal word of god, when he said that the apocalypse would cause the mother to abandon her child in sheer panic and desperation. I therefore distrust those who staunchly say, during a casual conversation at the gym or uni, that they would sacrifice their lives if it guaranteed the safety of their closest friend. There is a consistent dissonance between what is said and what is done in cases like these. But I would be the first one to celebrate the extraordinary person who would sacrifice their only chance at consciousness for someone else. But that's the point. Such a person is extraordinary. We call them heroes and celebrate their courage exactly because they do what millions only could say.

    I've been thinking of this the last couple of days. I think I came to the conclusion that the only one I would give my life up for (saying this from my armchair) is my mother who means more than a lot to me. But even then I'm suspicious of being conceited and attributing to myself more courage than I can actually show for. Not that I think than I'm a flaming coward, it is much more about others talking about themselves in a very conceited and self-elevating way. There are many superheroes out there, who could (according to everything we know from shootings) not find a hiding spot fast enough at the sight of a gun or a knife.

    Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it.
  • Friendship
     Reply #10 - October 17, 2013, 06:56 PM

    Well written. Will digest more.

    Choose your friends carefully.
    I would give up my life for my daughter/nephews, perhaps not my mum or dad, I have given enough of life to them and even though they gave me life, I would not expect my daughter to do the same for me.

    Would I save a friend's life. Well usually I am a coward, don't get me wrong my chin/head can take a battering, tae-kwon-do instructor two punches the night Bruno lost to Lweis, tough big black guy, chipped my tooth, free shot, after telling bystanders he was coming to say sorry, snooker cue round the back of the head, split top of my ear over a misunderstanding, the assailant actually drove me to the hospital for stitiches and kicked in the head (maybe that is where it started ? Lol)by a group of 17/18 yr skinheads at 14, never dropped once, no daze, nothing, nada, fucking tough chin and head, need heart and guts.

    Now if in any situation that might require a sacrifice I would like to think that this is where I would exhibit heart and guts - for a friend -has to be a friend I truly trust like I could trust him with my money and my daughter.

    Like I said I sopt danger 500 feet away, my friends always got me out of trouble as clubbers in white clubs with only a handful of us, and I am the cheeky fucker. We went to tough clubs up north.

    let me dwell more.

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Friendship
     Reply #11 - October 17, 2013, 07:53 PM

    Now that I thought some more.

    In 1993/4 my lads and I met a guy who had been 'banished' from London, 19st and black and big and mental crackhead (before we even knew what crack or even coke was). He became one of those you would meet regularly, it was 1992, the summer was a hot one. Anyways cut a long story short, all of us are smoking in two cars at the end of a dead -end street with greenery at the end. Let's call him King Kong. KK cycles by as we are in the middle of a giggling session. KK thins we are laghin at him. He rides off, he comes back with a knife and an axe. Pulls out one of us from the car by the neck and holds the knife against him and I don't remember what he said but it wasn't good, somehow later on he had me by the neck with the axe on my head, like he was going to give a middle parting. I was talking to him and he was telling me to shut up and I was still talking, because if you think I am argumentative now, back then boy, I don't remember getting out of his clutches. We all survived, seven of us, any other occasion he was getting rushed, but stoned, innocent, knife and axe, KK you get the picture.

    I nearly fainted afterwards but kept my record of no fainting since 10, didn't let my mates know tho. Went to sleep that night. Woke up.

    To a feeling that I have never experienced. As soon as I opened my eyes KK. He was in my head. My mid-morning had arranged for a gun from a cousin in a big city, when I say arranged, I mean enquired, it never turned up.

    At a meeting, my friends? I? a meeting lol. I said I was ready to kill him, they thought I was nuts but as it was I saying it and claiming it they were not that bothered, I rationalised - the police are not going to miss someone like that, I knew where he lived, his rooms, his girlfriend, he had a list of 200 enemies, no one would know.

    I remember my lawyer friend pacing up and down, saying I am going to lose my career before it starts, you can't do this, but I reckon pragmatic enough to know - that if a gn appears on the scene then it was panic stations.

    In the end - three of us sit in the car, me in the back, two upfront, passenger has a baseball bat in the footwell, I only have one exit because on one side there is a wall (fucking gangsters lol), who appears but KK, he slides into the back with me. I can see the baseball bat, I can't see a way out as he is sitting in front of it.

    He apologises. His girlfriend was giving him shit. it wa good enough for me. or else there were moments that if you put a gun in my hand then maybe

    get me angry then guts and heart come into it. Miscarriages of justices. I don't stand up for friends always.

    Friend A is close friends to friend B. Friend A is closer to me than I am to B. At the time B and me are equal to him. I hear A spread bullshit about friend B's dad, enough times, I did not like it, I told someone who told Friend B. Friend B has never spoken to me since 20 yrs ago. he does not see much of A.

    I thought I would not tell B the real source of the gossip because their friendship was more important than mine with either. I made a sacrifice.

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Friendship
     Reply #12 - October 17, 2013, 08:49 PM

    Brings to mind 1983/4, four of us walking in the gora area, (lol which was surprisingly very very close to the Pakistani area in them days), anyways four of us walking, pass this house, in the front garden again, kids out age and one 17/18 year old, big difference in size.

    Pakis! he shouts

    We walk on, not turning round or running, enemy territory and all that, but one of us, says he is not going to take it and returns. Wtf we follow, the big lad comes out and sorta batters my mate

    He is my goto for guts.

    Later on 94/95, my friens aliph, the one I introduced his wife to him, was in a club, me there too. An English friend told me that a group of * were after my blood, because |I was I'd like to think 'too cool'. He was right as walking up the stairs, they blocked my way. My mate was the only other fella with me in da club.

    Found him, told him. They were still standing by the stairs, he shouted - If you fucking lay one finger on him, I will fucking kill you, in his maddest Dolph Ludgren/jackie Shroff/Connery face - lol they did not flinch, not move, they were shit scared, today my mate was KK - thatsa sorta sacrifice. He did it many times.

    Even came rushing round when a big black guy threatening to stab me because I had not paid an ex-employee some money she thought she deserved.

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Friendship
     Reply #13 - October 18, 2013, 02:34 AM


     If we've learned anything about human behaviour during shootings like these, it's the explosion of unwavering panic, paired with a similarly unwavering tendency to exclude anything and anyone that has nothing to do with the nearest table to duck under.


    I disagree. Not everyone panics. There are always stories of smart things done, people saved.

    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • Friendship
     Reply #14 - October 18, 2013, 08:58 PM

    Now someone with a forensic mind combing through my KK knife and axe story might think, 8 guys and our man here is saying he was the one who wanted to shoot him, why? Could it have been someone else and our man is taking the credit/or not, why would he be the one.

    Well I didn't tell the full story.

    let me take you back to the night. Axe to the head. I honestly don't know why he let me go and I said yesterday that I would not shut up, not so, I was quiet but not scared, this was not happening - he let me go, I went, left my friends there, who by know were just slowly walking round the car to get away from KK who was also walking round the car. Thankfully not with weapons on show.

    I walked home, on way, met a guy in his front garden, chatted to release the tension, did not mention anything. 20 mins later, all the friends I had left, were now here, all 6 fitted in a car, 1 had gone home. The lawyer - always knew/know he is smart.

    So we chat, before long KK on his bike, stops in front, grabs me, takes me to the car and says to front garden guy, piss off inside you know what I can do. So he starts on me

    Talk now
    So I did
    shut the fuck up or else

    I would not stop talking, he was daring me too, I was talking. I could see my friends expressions, saying shut the fuck up - MINIMOW - none of them came out of the car and I don't blame them, then or now, why? Because I would have not got out myself. I would if I was the driver or told the driver to run the motherfucker over, I am sure I would have, but thankfully I don't drive.

    he subjected me to an intense two minutes. It nearly caused me to faint. This is why I have never had a morning like I did next. That is why I wanted to shoot him plus because he was the type of guy who would drag you out of your own house.

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Friendship
     Reply #15 - October 18, 2013, 09:07 PM

    A true friend becomes family.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Friendship
     Reply #16 - October 18, 2013, 11:25 PM

    A true friend becomes family.

    But hard to find...
  • Friendship
     Reply #17 - October 19, 2013, 11:12 AM

    That's what makes them precious.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
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