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  • Re: the dreaded "revert" - Islam101
     Reply #30 - December 15, 2011, 09:52 PM
    Quote from: allat on December 15, 2011, 08:18 PM
    That new ex-muslim anger is understandable. But I would suggest you try and make your points without resorting to sexist name-calling, which is what an ignorant Muslim might do. Don't let anger make you do the things that those who make you angry would love to see you do.


    I'm sorry, it just gets me sometimes. It really grinds my gears to see ingrates such as Dawahfilms and this woman who shouts 'Islam is the better deen' in a land ruled by kafirs and enjoying it's many freedoms and bounty, while I live in a shithole country ruled by muslims who would send me to jail if they knew of my apostasy.

    Seriously, Western countries should have some sort of programme where delusional ingrate Muslims like these are rounded up, load them all on a plane and get parachuted down other Muslim countries like Pakistan or Afghanistan or Iran or Sudan, see if they like the taste of their own shitty medicine.
  • Re: the dreaded "revert" - Islam101
     Reply #31 - December 15, 2011, 09:58 PM
    Quote from: truth_seeker on December 15, 2011, 09:52 PM
    I'm sorry, it just gets me sometimes. It really grinds my gears to see ingrates such as Dawahfilms and this woman who shouts 'Islam is the better deen' in a land ruled by kafirs and enjoying it's many freedoms and bounty, while I live in a shithole country ruled by muslims who would send me to jail if they knew of my apostasy.

    Seriously, Western countries should have some sort of programme where delusional ingrate Muslims like these are rounded up, load them all on a plane and get parachuted down other Muslim countries like Pakistan or Afghanistan or Iran or Sudan, see if they like the taste of their own shitty medicine.


    I hear you. It is really ridiculous how privilege can blind people to how things are for other people who are not so lucky.
    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: the dreaded "revert" - Islam101
     Reply #32 - December 15, 2011, 09:59 PM
    Quote from: allat on December 15, 2011, 12:04 PM
    A white lesbian woman in her late 20s that I am vaguely acquainted with (a former neighbour) recently converted to Islam. She'd posted some bullshit hipster story about how misunderstood shariah is, and how it's really not that bad. I gave her a piece of my mind and called her on her privilege. Noticed today that story is no longer on her page. Might be she's blocked me from seeing it. Does not matter. I am making sure everything I post about Islam and Muslims is visible to her.


    Btw, can you give a link to her page?  dance
  • Re: the dreaded "revert" - Islam101
     Reply #33 - December 15, 2011, 10:01 PM
    Grin Probably not a good idea  Tongue
    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: the dreaded "revert" - Islam101
     Reply #34 - December 15, 2011, 10:11 PM
    Quote from: truth_seeker on December 15, 2011, 09:59 PM
    Btw, can you give a link to her page?  dance

    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=19092.msg542765#msg542765

    don't don't abuse individuals  on the web...  you can put them all together and insult them  but let us not do it for    single person..lol..link is there to that kinky lady
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Re: the dreaded "revert" - Islam101
     Reply #35 - December 15, 2011, 10:40 PM
    Quote from: yeezevee on December 15, 2011, 10:11 PM
    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=19092.msg542765#msg542765

    don't don't abuse individuals  on the web...  you can put them all together and insult them  but let us not do it for    single person..lol..link is there to that kinky lady


     dance dance dance dance
  • Re: the dreaded "revert" - Islam101
     Reply #36 - December 16, 2011, 03:49 AM
    I blogged about it. Going after single targets is more than fair game for bloggers Tongue
  • Re: the dreaded "revert" - Islam101
     Reply #37 - December 16, 2011, 04:19 AM
    almulhida   Very interesting!  I was a "revert" *cough*  errrr... convert lol.
    and some of what you said is very true. I wish someone had argued with ME
    before I dove head first into the shit!
    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
  • Re: the dreaded "revert" - Islam101
     Reply #38 - December 16, 2011, 04:58 AM
    I hate when people call it "reverting", it's converting, damn it! finmad
    Life is what happens to you while you're staring at your smartphone.

    Eternal Sunshine of the Religionless Mind
  • Re: the dreaded "revert" - Islam101
     Reply #39 - December 16, 2011, 06:20 AM
    Quote from: yeezevee on December 15, 2011, 05:55 PM
    your definition of extramarital sex may be different from Sunni extramarital sex, Shia extramarital sex  and extramarital sex in Muslims who never read Islamic scriptures DH.  So unless you convert int o Islam and come back as apostate people should not believe  you..


    I'll take it you are being ironic
    The mosque: the most epic display of collective douchbaggery, arrogance and delusion
  • Re: the dreaded "revert" - Islam101
     Reply #40 - December 16, 2011, 07:42 AM
    Quote from: Andromeda on December 16, 2011, 04:58 AM
    I hate when people call it "reverting", it's converting, damn it! finmad


    Yes it's very annoying!
  • Re: the dreaded "revert" - Islam101
     Reply #41 - December 16, 2011, 08:38 AM
    I'm glad we agree.  Cheesy

    Do you think they do it just to be obnoxious? Are they even aware of how much so it is?  banghead
    Life is what happens to you while you're staring at your smartphone.

    Eternal Sunshine of the Religionless Mind
  • Re: the dreaded "revert" - Islam101
     Reply #42 - December 16, 2011, 05:36 PM
    Andromeda

     Cheesy  you have to remember, our dawaghandists TOLD US we were reverts,
    not converts, cuz every baby is born muslim, including us infadel, heathen,
    murtad westerners! LOL
    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
  • Re: the dreaded "revert" - Islam101
     Reply #43 - December 16, 2011, 06:24 PM
    lulz since every body is born a muslim, then all the kafiroons we have today are technically apostates, and Muslims have the responsibility to slay all of them since apostasy is punished by death.
  • Re: the dreaded "revert" - Islam101
     Reply #44 - December 16, 2011, 07:35 PM
    Ah, yes. It all makes sense now.  Cheesy  banghead
    Life is what happens to you while you're staring at your smartphone.

    Eternal Sunshine of the Religionless Mind
  • Re: the dreaded "revert" - Islam101
     Reply #45 - December 17, 2011, 09:41 AM
    I think its time for Atheists to reclaim revert!
    Everyone knows Babies dont believe in god, just ask them.
    Have you ever once...once...heard a newborn baby recite the shahada? Nope, didnt think so.
    Tell me, if newborn babies are muslims, how come they aint circumcised? Huh?
    The foundation of superstition is ignorance, the
    superstructure is faith and the dome is a vain hope. Superstition
    is the child of ignorance and the mother of misery.
    -Robert G. Ingersoll (1898)

     "Do time ninjas have this ability?" "Yeah. Only they stay silent and aren't douchebags."  -Ibl
  • Re: the dreaded "revert" - Islam101
     Reply #46 - December 17, 2011, 09:53 AM
    What is annoying about converts is....they should know better.

    I mean, we all understand the social/cultural indoctrination and compulsion that goes spreading religion. It's understandable how perfectly reasonable people can cling to them.
    However, someone with a modern education living in a modern society with no childhood indoctrination or social pressure picks up the Quran and goes "Hay, this is like totally awesome and super insightful, it must totally be god's monolog"....no offense to any former converts or whatever else (we'll chalk it up to temporary insanity)....but I really dont get that.

    That's kind of an open question.....what were you thinking?
    It's kind of an ongoing fascination of mine, and I've never actually been religious, so I have trouble relating to that mindset.

    The foundation of superstition is ignorance, the
    superstructure is faith and the dome is a vain hope. Superstition
    is the child of ignorance and the mother of misery.
    -Robert G. Ingersoll (1898)

     "Do time ninjas have this ability?" "Yeah. Only they stay silent and aren't douchebags."  -Ibl
  • Re: the dreaded "revert" - Islam101
     Reply #47 - December 17, 2011, 10:13 AM
    Interesting how a baby will "forget" Islam if you never mention religion to them.  Wink
    Life is what happens to you while you're staring at your smartphone.

    Eternal Sunshine of the Religionless Mind
  • Re: the dreaded "revert" - Islam101
     Reply #48 - December 17, 2011, 01:46 PM
    Converts don't confuse me. All the things that keep people in religion are available to those who convert too. What I don't get is why anyone would convert to Islam specifically. It's so obviously culture bound; doesn't it seem weird that God's universal message to mankind comes in one language and that he doesn't like to be talked to in any other? Even Christianity doesn't have this problem.
  • Re: the dreaded "revert" - Islam101
     Reply #49 - December 17, 2011, 05:10 PM
    converts should know better?  Thanks homer.  Like i dont already kick myself
    in the ass enough for many choices in my life lol.  I was looking for solace from
    my past, my pain, and skelotons in my closet that continually haunted me. 
    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
  • Re: the dreaded "revert" - Islam101
     Reply #50 - December 17, 2011, 05:51 PM
    No, I think he has a point. I don't know how someone from the outside could find Islam attractive. I would definitely be interested in hearing why someone would convert to it. I wouldn't call them dumb though. Just...misguided.
    Life is what happens to you while you're staring at your smartphone.

    Eternal Sunshine of the Religionless Mind
  • Re: the dreaded "revert" - Islam101
     Reply #51 - December 17, 2011, 08:01 PM
    For a person who already has a preconceived notion of a god, the lies and half-truths plied by dawahgandists can seem VERY convincing. This is obvious when addressing a christian (or someone they percieve to be christian, as I got the jesus spiel) they will make huge claims for the importance of jesus within islam.. that is until they have you saying shahada when you get left find out the real perception of their version of jesus. To convince atheists, they only have the miracle claims to fall back on, which only started being touted (and not coincidentally in my opinion) once Islam came into contact with the growth of passive atheism so common now in the west.
    I've been driven mad trying to prove my sanity
  • Re: the dreaded "revert" - Islam101
     Reply #52 - December 17, 2011, 09:46 PM
    I really meant it as no offense.
    We all do silly things, that we should know better.
    I didnt mean to phrase it like "they're stupid", but more  "at a point in their life their thinking must have been way off".
    The foundation of superstition is ignorance, the
    superstructure is faith and the dome is a vain hope. Superstition
    is the child of ignorance and the mother of misery.
    -Robert G. Ingersoll (1898)

     "Do time ninjas have this ability?" "Yeah. Only they stay silent and aren't douchebags."  -Ibl
  • Re: the dreaded "revert" - Islam101
     Reply #53 - December 27, 2011, 12:25 AM
    i am not impressed.  

    edit:  aaaaand i posted this on the wrong thread!
    how the hell did that happen! LOL  a jinn switched
    the page on my while i was researching a reference!
    ITS A MIRACLE!
    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
  • the dreaded "revert" - Islam101
     Reply #54 - May 21, 2014, 05:14 PM
    Quote from: yeezevee on December 15, 2011, 11:43 AM
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  • the dreaded "revert" - Islam101
     Reply #55 - May 21, 2014, 07:23 PM
    No fornication? What about sex with slaves? And temporary marriage is prostitution.
  • the dreaded "revert" - Islam101
     Reply #56 - May 22, 2014, 04:07 AM
    In high school when I was having my doubts and trying to suppress them I noticed that most of the converts I met in the mosque or the classes the mosque gave were not all that together.   We all go thru phases where we are looking for answers to the big questions and I think dawagandists take advantage of people who are in that phase and the less critically thinking faculties they have the better.  There were a few I remember seeing a few times but stopped going altogether.  I'd like to think that they smelled the coffee, they were mostly women.  I wonder if any of them read this forum.
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