Question : how can you win when muslims play the 'bad translation' card ?We have to realize here that there are many types of Muslims.. 100s of types ., some of them are
1). Accept the authenticity of the Quran and the Hadith with no ifs or buts,
2). Deny the Hadith, partially or totally and try to reinterpret the Quran
In the middle you have range of folks along with more than 80% of 1.5 billion Muslim folks who NEVER read either QUran or Hadith..
Assuming such assumption of "Bad translation of Quran" is coming from
Dawah bums., I say
"Shit is shit., shit smells like shit and rose is a rose .. rose smells like rose irrespective of which culture which race and which group of human beings are responsible for the roses and for the shit.. "Take some books., say from China such as here..
The Sayings Of Confucius ask the fools to translate it., they may translate slightly different here and there but its overall message in any language by any translator will be same.. or similar.. at least.
First you make a book in the name
something no one knows essentially non-existent and is created in the human brain. And write some silly rules or force the rules from that book on every one .. Say it is from allah..god??
let me give a simple examples here with Sahih International translation
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2.226:
For those who swear not to have sexual relations with their wives is a waiting time of four months, but if they return [to normal relations] - then indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.
2.227:
And if they decide on divorce - then indeed, Allah is Hearing and Knowing.
2.228:
Divorced women remain in waiting for three periods, and it is not lawful for them to conceal what Allah has created in their wombs if they believe in Allah and the Last Day. And their husbands have more right to take them back in this [period] if they want reconciliation. And due to the wives is similar to what is expected of them, according to what is reasonable. But the men have a degree over them [in responsibility and authority]. And Allah is Exalted in Might and Wise.
2.229:
Divorce is twice. Then, either keep [her] in an acceptable manner or release [her] with good treatment. And it is not lawful for you to take anything of what you have given them unless both fear that they will not be able to keep [within] the limits of Allah . But if you fear that they will not keep [within] the limits of Allah , then there is no blame upon either of them concerning that by which she ransoms herself. These are the limits of Allah , so do not transgress them. And whoever transgresses the limits of Allah - it is those who are the wrongdoers.
2:230:
And if he has divorced her [for the third time], then she is not lawful to him afterward until [after] she marries a husband other than him. And if the latter husband divorces her [or dies], there is no blame upon the woman and her former husband for returning to each other if they think that they can keep [within] the limits of Allah . These are the limits of Allah , which He makes clear to a people who know.
2:231:
And when you divorce women and they have [nearly] fulfilled their term, either retain them according to acceptable terms or release them according to acceptable terms, and do not keep them, intending harm, to transgress [against them]. And whoever does that has certainly wronged himself. And do not take the verses of Allah in jest. And remember the favor of Allah upon you and what has been revealed to you of the Book and wisdom by which He instructs you. And fear Allah and know that Allah is Knowing of all things.
2:232:
And when you divorce women and they have fulfilled their term, do not prevent them from remarrying their [former] husbands if they agree among themselves on an acceptable basis. That is instructed to whoever of you believes in Allah and the Last Day. That is better for you and purer, and Allah knows and you know not.
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What is that shit? it doesn't matter who translates it.. bull shit is bull shit., let us take that 2.230
YUSUFALI: So if a husband divorces his wife (irrevocably), He cannot, after that, re-marry her until after she has married another husband and He has divorced her. In that case there is no blame on either of them if they re-unite, provided they feel that they can keep the limits ordained by Allah. Such are the limits ordained by Allah, which He makes plain to those who understand.
PICKTHAL: And if he hath divorced her (the third time), then she is not lawful unto him thereafter until she hath wedded another husband. Then if he (the other husband) divorce her it is no sin for both of them that they come together again if they consider that they are able to observe the limits of Allah. These are the limits of Allah. He manifesteth them for people who have knowledge.
SHAKIR:So if he divorces her she shall not be lawful to him afterwards until she marries another husband; then if he divorces her there is no blame on them both if they return to each other (by marriage), if they think that they can keep within the limits of Allah, and these are the limits of Allah which He makes clear for a people who know.
What kind of nonsense is that?
If a Quran/Muhammad following ROBOTIC IDIOT divorces his wife for some silly reason and if they want to reconcile again. THE LADY HAS TO MARRY SOME OTHER GUY AND SLEEP WITH HIM , MAKE SOME BABIES & DIVORCE THE GUY AND REMARRY HER FIRST BELOVED HUSBAND??
what is this shit and mullahs of Islam enforce those fucking rules from Quran?
does it make any sense??.
Is it really word of Allah? god shit?
or is it just BRAIN WASHED brain dead ISLAMIC NONSENSE??
Crazy fools .. MOCK THEM MOVE ON..
Topic: how can you win when muslims play the 'bad translation' card