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  • Talking to God - Charles Wesley and William Blake
     OP - March 01, 2015, 01:19 PM
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    both were men who firmly believed that an individual man or woman could hear directly from God and both privileged the subjectivity gained through this experience over any liberal political or economic policy.

    As such, both Charles Wesley and William Blake use their poetry to subtly critique the spirit of the age and the discourses of liberty that dominated the late eighteenth century. 

    By developing the kingdom of God as a communal space for the embrace of the other, both men in their own way manage to locate freedom and justice outside the categories of individuality and autonomy – pointing the way towards a definition of identity rooted in a community of love and forgiveness.


    During the eighteenth century there were two major changes - the enlightenment, and the enthusiasts.

    One had a formal concept of the free rational individual and ideas based on that, the other the idea of communities creating together - the commonwealth, the kingdom of heaven on earth, god with us.

    I am unclear how these ideas were taken up in Islam.
    When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and you Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it.


    A.A. Milne,

    "We cannot slaughter each other out of the human impasse"
  • Talking to God - Charles Wesley and William Blake
     Reply #1 - March 02, 2015, 02:24 AM
    I remember that william blake believed that jesus went to england.

    it's similar to what muslims believe about abraham, that he and ismail went to mecca and built the kaaba.

    Just a parallelism.
    "we stand firm calling to allah all the time,
    we let them know - bang! bang! - coz it's dawah time!"
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