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 Topic: Kenya Garissa university students 'taken hostage ' by al-Shabab   says bbc

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  • Kenya Garissa university students 'taken hostage ' by al-Shabab   says bbc
     OP - April 02, 2015, 12:16 PM

    Kenya Garissa university students 'taken hostage' by al-Shabab   says bbc news

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    Gunmen from the militant Islamist group al-Shabab have killed at least 15 people and taken students hostage at a university in north-eastern Kenya.  Reports say 65 others were wounded when gunmen stormed the campus in Garissa. Troops are engaging the gunmen.

    More than 500 students were still unaccounted for, a government minister said.  Al-Shabab, which is linked to al-Qaeda, said it was holding Christians hostage and freeing Muslims. Hostages from the two groups had been separated, and 15 of the Muslims had already been released, a spokesman for al-Shabab told the BBC.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLmbt5K79fk

    Well that is the news from Kenya..  I am sure they came to kill and they came to Die...   Rogues of Islam and preachers of Islam have no borders don't care about any one and anything  except their leader and their allah doll..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Kenya Garissa university students 'taken hostage ' by al-Shabab ? says bbc
     Reply #1 - April 02, 2015, 01:05 PM

    Because that's exactly what Africa needs: killing educated people.

    This is horrible.

    He's no friend to the friendless
    And he's the mother of grief
    There's only sorrow for tomorrow
    Surely life is too brief
  • Kenya Garissa university students 'taken hostage ' by al-Shabab   says bbc
     Reply #2 - April 02, 2015, 01:46 PM

    Islamic gunmen storm Kenyan college, 15 killed; Christians targeted  says  CNN of America.

    Are you Christian or Muslim? What Al-Shabaab gunmen asked Kenyan students as they went door to door during university massacre killing at least 15 and injuring 60..  That is the heading from   dailymail.co.uk


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_BwVPeOU30
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CplDLLiBMww


    well what is new.. Christians and Jews were targeted Since the beginning of Islam..  You can read that in Quran..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Kenya Garissa university students 'taken hostage ' by al-Shabab ? says bbc
     Reply #3 - April 02, 2015, 02:48 PM

    Follow hashtag #GarissaAttack on twitter. Its now a hostage situation. Kenyan security failing terribly.

    Tired of the bull-shit. I write my own doctrines.
  • Kenya Garissa university students 'taken hostage ' by al-Shabab   says bbc
     Reply #4 - April 02, 2015, 04:03 PM

    Follow hashtag #GarissaAttack on twitter. Its now a hostage situation. Kenyan security failing terribly.

    Every type of security will fail if the aim of   religious rogues is KILL AND GET KILLED  Anti-bulshit .,   Nations like Kenya  are not isolated like AMRIKA with a very strong police force  intelligent network with advanced communications. Even US of A fails if the attackers are like that of Boston Marathon bombers..   And Kenya is no where near to usa,  ...  in fact no nation in Africa and in Asia are prepared for such attack.
     

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    At least 70 Kenyan students are reported to have been killed in an attack on a university near Kenya's border with Somalia.

    Meanwhile, Kenyan troops killed two gunmen from a gang of fighters from Somalia's Shebab Islamists who stormed the university and seized hostages, the interior ministry said.

    "Two terrorists have been neutralised in the ongoing operation, security agencies intensify rescue operation," the interior ministry said in a statement.

    that is the latest.... These rogues are  very determined  religious rabies infected    DOGS. .. they don't care whom they are attacking... kids.. schools.. colleges... No holds bar to them. Recently we had such attack in Pakistan..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Kenya Garissa university students 'taken hostage ' by al-Shabab   says bbc
     Reply #5 - April 02, 2015, 05:34 PM

    Yes of course we are too unsophisticated to counter spineless terrorist who have nothing to lose. Sadly a replica and disturbingly similar scene of WestGate Mall attack in 2013. Kenya media is also leaving a lot to be desired instead choosing to show Telenovelas.

    The numbers: 70 confirmed dead, 79 injured, hundreds still unaccounted for, Kenya security in ches-thumping we have rescued 'over 500'. Hostages still inside though few minutes ago one terrorist has blown himself up.

    This is the Latest
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/02/kenya-minister-says-70-dead-in-al-shabaab-attack-on-university

    Tired of the bull-shit. I write my own doctrines.
  • Kenya Garissa university students 'taken hostage ' by al-Shabab ? says bbc
     Reply #6 - April 02, 2015, 07:51 PM

    Terrible. I can't imagine.
  • Kenya Garissa university students 'taken hostage ' by al-Shabab ? says bbc
     Reply #7 - April 02, 2015, 10:44 PM

    This applies to both this and the IS thread. I found this awesome blog post article today. It is from a Christian POV, but I agreed a lot with it and it resonated with me in terms of idea with regards to acts like this.

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    Faith in Faith, and valuing values? Reflecting on David Cameron's Easter Message.

    The Prime Minister has issued an ‘Easter message’, which makes for interesting reading. It has rather less (that is, no) reference to cross, resurrection, or indeed the name of Jesus than I suppose is normal in Easter messages; The claim that ‘Easter is all about remembering the importance of change, responsibility, and doing the right thing for the good of our children’ might raise more than a few eyebrows; Easter always used to be all about ‘the death of death in the death of Christ’ (to borrow what is possibly John Owen’s only truly memorable line). My friend Danny Webster has blogged on this, and I pretty much agree with everything he says.

    I cannot imagine any positive reception for this piece; Mr Cameron has (once again) proved himself simply tone-deaf to the concerns of the Christian community (I am told he is similarly blind to the concerns of the Muslim community). I say that not as a complaint – I do not have any right to demand a Prime Minister who is interested in my faith commitment – but as a matter of surprise; if I were running for office in a democracy, and there was a group of organisations that claimed the serious allegiance of about 7-8% of the voters, I would either make sure I understood how to speak to them, or at least had people around me to check my words and give me advice.

    He draws attention to the enshrining in law of the 0.7% of GDP overseas aid budget and to the modern slavery bill, two good things for which his administration does deserve credit; I suspect churches that are involved in foodbanks and debt counselling services (which most of us are, one way or another) might struggle more with the claim ‘I am proud that despite the pressure on public spending, we made clear choices to help the … most vulnerable in society’.

    That said, I find the piece interesting and worthy of comment because it displays a particular type of common contemporary liberal piety, which is not only wrong but positively dangerous. He starts with a recognition that is valuable, and deserves to be remembered more often: ‘As Prime Minister, I’m in no doubt about the matter: the values of the Christian faith are the values on which our nation was built.’ Yes; absolutely. He then moves on to defend the importance of faith in British society: ‘I’m an unapologetic supporter of the role of faith in this country … I’m a big believer in the power of faith to forge a better society.’

    He then makes a point which I agree with entirely, but which I interpret rather differently: strong faith makes people act. Mr Cameron says ‘…faith is a massive inspiration for millions of people to go out and make a positive difference.’ OK, but I want to think about the word ‘positive’, or at least to suggest that ‘faith’ is also an inspiration for other people – fewer, I hope – to go out and make a very negative difference.

    Then we turn to that wonderful contemporary idea, ‘values’: ‘in the end we are all guided by the lights of our own reason … this government has consistently taken decisions which are based on fundamental principles and beliefs.’ Well, yes; as Danny said, ‘everything we do is based on some sort of fundamental principle and belief’. And that includes the bad things as well as the good things.

    I think that celebrating ‘faith’ and valuing ‘values’ is dangerous. Strong faith makes people act, and if their faith is deformed, so will their action be. The Anglicans who condemned Elizabeth Gaunt to be burnt alive for being a Baptist were people of faith, acting according to their values; the German Christians who supported the rise of Hitler were people of faith, acting according to their values; the members of Westborough Baptist Church who picket funerals with their homophobic ‘God hates fags’ posters are people of faith, acting according to their values. (I criticise my own tradition; other faith traditions are, obviously, not immune.) ‘Values’ are not necessarily good; some are, but some are not. Faith is a powerful motivator to action, but that makes it particularly dangerous if it is misplaced.

    Faith well-placed will inspire heroic and sacrificial action. When Mr Cameron says ‘[a]cross the country, we have tens of thousands of fantastic faith-based charities. Every day they’re performing minor miracles in local communities.’ I know that he is right; I know many people who work for these charities, and some of the visionaries who have started them; I know in some cases just how much they risked to follow the calling of God they discerned; I certainly know how much many people have given up to do wonderful work in national and local organisations. But all this good comes not because they had ‘faith’, but because of who they had faith in; not because they had ‘values’ but because of the values they had.

    David Cameron is far from the only contemporary liberal who attempts to negotiate the challenge of faith traditions by praising the concept of ‘faith’. This is not just wrong; it is dangerous. We must discriminate between ‘people of faith’, on the basis of our own ‘values’: faith makes people peculiarly activist, and so either makes them great forces for good, or actively evil. There are serious, and divisive, moral decisions to be made here. Pretending that we can have faith in ‘faith’ and that we can value ‘values’ is a craven and foolish evasion of the problem.

    Posted by steve on Apr 1, 2015 in Uncategorized | 1 comment

    http://steverholmes.org.uk/blog/?p=7479

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    I thought the highlighted parts (discounting the bias) if interpreted liberally and generally highlights a lot of the issues in today's society. Society values/is forced to value faith and values for faith and values sake without an ounce of thought in terms of what is had faith in, and what values that source of faith has. These values are seen as great purely cause they are values, not that they make rational/logical/humanistic/environmental sense. Respect for values is seen as worthy (price) as it secures you a vote, valuable&valid values are not supported cause they don't gain you points; people know the price of everything, but the value of nothing!
  • Kenya Garissa university students 'taken hostage ' by al-Shabab   says bbc
     Reply #8 - April 03, 2015, 02:28 AM

    Kenya  Garissa University  al-Shabab  Islamic terrorists 'killed 147'students says news..

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    The number of people killed by al-Shabab militants in an attack on a university in north-eastern Kenya has risen to 147, government officials say. The operation to secure the Garissa University College campus was now over, with all four attackers killed, they added.
    Some 587 students escaped, 79 of whom were injured.

    The gunmen were wearing suicide vests, according to reports, and were armed with AK-47s.


    well in these modern times with all those high tech Assault weapons 4 determined rogues who are willing to die for their cause can play havoc with large number of people ..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Kenya Garissa university students 'taken hostage ' by al-Shabab   says bbc
     Reply #9 - April 04, 2015, 08:26 PM

    Al-Shabaab Says Kenyan Cities Will Run ‘Red With Blood’ says news

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Idvz8kghTds


    "No amount of precaution or safety measures will be able to guarantee your safety"

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    The Somali terror group behind Thursday’s deadly assault on a Kenyan college campus threatened a “long, gruesome war” against the country, according to a media report on Saturday.

    Reuters reports that it received an emailed statement from al-Shabaab that said Kenya’s cities would run “red with blood.”


    well that is the news..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Kenya Garissa university students 'taken hostage ' by al-Shabab ? says bbc
     Reply #10 - April 04, 2015, 08:29 PM

    Does it seem to me that things are not being dealt with, just being allowed to simmer?
  • Kenya Garissa university students 'taken hostage ' by al-Shabab   says bbc
     Reply #11 - April 05, 2015, 03:09 PM

    Does it seem to me that things are not being dealt with, just being allowed to simmer?


    I don't know what is simmering and what is not simmering " when I read  News Like this

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    Gunman in Kenya attack that killed 147 is son of govt official:

    GARISSA: The son of a Kenyan government official has been identified as one of the gunmen who attacked a Kenyan college where 148 people were killed, authorities said Sunday.

    Abdirahim Mohammed Abdullahi, one of the Islamic extremists who attacked Garissa University College, was the son of a government chief in Mandera County, Interior Ministry spokesman Mwenda Njoka told The Associated Press.

    The chief had reported his son missing last year and said he feared that he had gone to Somalia, said Njoka. All four attackers were killed by Kenyan security forces on Thursday, said police.

    Abdullahi graduated from the University of Nairobi with a law degree in 2013 and was viewed as a “brilliant upcoming lawyer,”   according to someone who knew him. It is not clear where he worked before he disappeared last year, Njoka said.........


    well that is the news from that  Land of Safari...

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Kenya Garissa university students 'taken hostage ' by al-Shabab ? says bbc
     Reply #12 - April 06, 2015, 11:35 AM

    al Shabab has been losing ground, and its very possible that they'll be defeated soon, unlike the taliban. Since the US outsourced the fighting to african countries, the neighboring countries who're involved are getting targeted.
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