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  • Islamophobia, Don't Divide Us and Spiked
     OP - March 30, 2021, 06:49 PM
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bJl9pbXOj8
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    'ISLAMOPHOBIA!' - The Accusation That Silences Dissent
    Accusations of 'Islamophobia' are thrown about by people who want to silence critics. Five people, from a Muslim background, tell us about their own experiences.
    Live interview with contributors to the video Friday 9th April
    https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/islamophobia-the-accusation-that-silences-dissent-tickets-148434394269

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  • Islamophobia
     Reply #1 - March 30, 2021, 10:41 PM
    optics: middle class ex-muslims asking middle class non-muslims to reconsider their patronage of lower class still-muslims.

  • Islamophobia
     Reply #2 - March 31, 2021, 06:50 PM
    Quote from: crumble on March 30, 2021, 10:41 PM
    optics: middle class ex-muslims asking middle class non-muslims to reconsider their patronage of lower class still-muslims.


    Yes, there is that about it.

    Also following the link below the video it looks like the campaign being set up is linked to the politics of Spiked, which are, well, rather odd: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/23/fringe-1980s-communist-faction-no-10-attitude-racism-munira-mirza

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  • Islamophobia, Don't Divide Us and Spiked
     Reply #3 - March 31, 2021, 08:31 PM
    Thread title edited, now that I'm clearer where this is coming from.
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  • Islamophobia, Don't Divide Us and Spiked
     Reply #4 - March 31, 2021, 10:58 PM
    By way of an example here's the response from Don't Divide Us to the Commission on Racial and Ethnic Disparities report: https://dontdivideus.com/ddus-response-to-the-committee-on-racial-and-ethnic-disparities-report/

    The response from other people: https://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/commission-on-race-ethnic-disparities-report.374143/

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/31/deeply-cynical-no-10-report-criticises-use-of-institutional-racism
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  • Islamophobia, Don't Divide Us and Spiked
     Reply #5 - April 01, 2021, 11:39 AM
    neatly dovetails with last two episodes of the latest adam curtis doc. the old right and the new left both benefit from dividing the lower clases along ideoligical lines. the left create many different identities to increase their constituencies of grievance. the right reciprocate by whitewashing history/reality and dissolving their overt bigotry in that acidic rainbow of so-called culture war.
  • Islamophobia, Don't Divide Us and Spiked
     Reply #6 - April 02, 2021, 01:06 PM
    cross-pollinating from the other thread,  this chap is playing the game described in the previous post.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/rakibehsan/status/1377732640615321604
  • Islamophobia, Don't Divide Us and Spiked
     Reply #7 - April 02, 2021, 01:23 PM
    He's also hosting the Don't Divide Us event next week.

    https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/islamophobia-the-accusation-that-silences-dissent-tickets-148434394269
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  • Islamophobia, Don't Divide Us and Spiked
     Reply #8 - April 02, 2021, 04:50 PM
    despite the age of social media, the pundit space remains a small world somehow. from his personal website:

    Quote from:
    Joining the Henry Jackson Society in March 2019, Dr Ehsan authored a number of HJS reports incorporating matters of social cohesion and national security, including Muslim Anti-Semitism in Contemporary Great Britain and Weaponising COVID-19: Far-Right Anti-Semitism in the United Kingdom and United States. Dr. Ehsan then left the HJS in February 2021 to work as an independent consultant.


  • Islamophobia, Don't Divide Us and Spiked
     Reply #9 - April 03, 2021, 09:29 PM
    A thread on Spiked in case anyone is keen to know more.

    https://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/rcp-spiked-ioi.290331/
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  • Islamophobia, Don't Divide Us and Spiked
     Reply #10 - April 04, 2021, 03:15 PM
    Quote from: crumble on April 01, 2021, 11:39 AM
    neatly dovetails with last two episodes of the latest adam curtis doc.


    So I've started on these. I watched episode 2 last night. I also read part of that thread on Spiked and it was very easy to imagine it as an Adam Curtis documentary.
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  • Islamophobia, Don't Divide Us and Spiked
     Reply #11 - April 11, 2021, 04:46 PM
    Quote from: zeca on March 31, 2021, 10:58 PM
    By way of an example here's the response from Don't Divide Us to the Commission on Racial and Ethnic Disparities report: https://dontdivideus.com/ddus-response-to-the-committee-on-racial-and-ethnic-disparities-report/


    Downing Street rewrote ‘independent’ report on race, experts claim
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    Officials at Downing Street have been accused of rewriting much of its controversial report into racial and ethnic disparities, despite appointing an independent commission to conduct an honest investigation into inequality in the UK.

    The Observer has been told that significant sections of the report published on 31 March, which were criticised and debunked by health professionals, academics, business chiefs and crime experts, were not written by the 12 commissioners who were appointed last July.

    The 258-page document was not made available to be read in full or signed off by the group, which included scientist and BBC broadcaster Maggie Aderin-Pocock and Samir Shah, former chair of the Runnymede Trust, nor were they made aware of its 24 final recommendations. Instead, the finished report, it is alleged, was produced by No 10.


    Suggestions that Munira Mirza, Spiked's person in No 10, was involved in the rewriting:
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    The group, led by Sewell, was set up by Samuel Kasumu, No 10’s most senior black special adviser, who resigned from his post on the day the report was published, aghast at its final findings. Accusations that Munira Mirza, director of No 10’s policy unit, was heavily involved in steering the direction of the supposedly independent report were not directly addressed by a No 10 spokesperson...

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  • Islamophobia, Don't Divide Us and Spiked
     Reply #12 - April 11, 2021, 05:19 PM
    It's no great surprise then that Don't Divide Us have put out an open letter backing the report:

    https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSc-lhcFi8d0BNqWXAfBoVwYB99on5PVafpF1mUD3K88KNfHhQ/viewform
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  • Islamophobia, Don't Divide Us and Spiked
     Reply #13 - April 11, 2021, 05:42 PM
    Quote from: zeca on April 03, 2021, 09:29 PM
    A thread on Spiked in case anyone is keen to know more.

    https://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/rcp-spiked-ioi.290331/


    it's make you wonder if cemb talking heads are aware of the background or whether they simply choose to ignore it.

    anyway, just noticed the event video is up to watch.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8bJl9pbXOj8&feature=emb_title
  • Islamophobia, Don't Divide Us and Spiked
     Reply #14 - April 11, 2021, 05:44 PM
    ah nevermind, that's still the same trailer.
  • Islamophobia, Don't Divide Us and Spiked
     Reply #15 - April 11, 2021, 05:48 PM
    Yes, I was looking for the video and couldn't find it.

    I wonder if Don't Divide Us are keeping tight control over what goes out under their name.
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  • Islamophobia, Don't Divide Us and Spiked
     Reply #16 - April 11, 2021, 07:45 PM
    Quote from: crumble on April 11, 2021, 05:42 PM
    it's make you wonder if cemb talking heads are aware of the background or whether they simply choose to ignore it.


    I haven't seen any mention of this from cemb or the cemb twitter feed. I'd hope that indicates a decision not to endorse it. What the people taking part in the video think is another question.
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  • Islamophobia, Don't Divide Us and Spiked
     Reply #17 - July 05, 2021, 09:36 AM
    raqib and wasiq high-fiving a spiked article which sounds a lot like my ranty opinions.

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    Are we going to treat Muslims as a race apart, super-sensitive, in need of the grace and protections of the Guardianista elites, people whose bigotries can be excused or glossed over? Or are we going to treat them as equal citizens who are likely to be as hostile to Islamic terrorism as the rest of us, and who would benefit enormously from becoming full, free, equal citizens of the UK with all the openness and frankness that such equality entails?


    https://mobile.twitter.com/WasiqUK/status/1411976562388385798
  • Islamophobia, Don't Divide Us and Spiked
     Reply #18 - July 20, 2021, 11:22 AM
    recruited by hjs.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/WasiqUK/status/1415653326956474375
  • Islamophobia, Don't Divide Us and Spiked
     Reply #19 - July 20, 2021, 01:48 PM
    back on topic, here's the discussion from the op - will get round to watching it.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rsJtHAp6Qvw
  • Islamophobia, Don't Divide Us and Spiked
     Reply #20 - February 05, 2022, 05:49 PM
    The trials and tribulations of Mr Johnson continue:

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    Munira Mirza, one of Boris Johnson's closest aides, has quit, blaming what she called a "scurrilous" attack by the prime minister on Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer. But who is she?

    For 14 years Munira Mirza has been at Boris Johnson's side. Through all the tribulations of his time as London mayor, Brexit campaigner, foreign secretary and prime minister, she has been a source of advice, willing and able to challenge her boss.

    Ms Mirza, sometimes known as "Boris's brain", is far from being a lifelong Conservative, having once been a communist activist.

    The 43-year-old factory worker's daughter, brought up in Oldham, also comes from a very different background to Old Etonian Mr Johnson.

    Like most advisers, she is not usually in the public eye. But in 2018 she wrote an article defending Mr Johnson after he said Muslim women wearing burkas "look like letter boxes" and was accused of Islamophobia.

    "He knows far more about Islam and Islamic cultures than most of the politicians who are now lining up to attack him," she wrote on the Conservative Home website    ...


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60257702

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    Boris Johnson has been cleared of breaking the Conservative party’s code of conduct over his comments about veiled Muslim women.

    An independent panel investigated the former foreign secretary’s comments after he used his Daily Telegraph column to suggest women wearing the burqa looked like letter boxes or bank robbers.


    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2018/dec/20/boris-johnson-cleared-over-burqa-comments
  • Islamophobia, Don't Divide Us and Spiked
     Reply #21 - February 05, 2022, 05:51 PM
    Speaking of bank robbers, who knew Boris could be so prescient!
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    Three members of a gang who wore burkas as disguises during an armed robbery at a Dundee jeweller's shop have had their sentences cut on appeal.


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-60259487
  • Islamophobia, Don't Divide Us and Spiked
     Reply #22 - March 10, 2022, 12:18 PM
    Podcast: https://www.patreon.com/posts/strange-of-party-63572320
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    The strange afterlife of the Revolutionary Communist Party
    Last month Munira Mirza, director of the Number 10 policy unit, resigned from her position. Mirza has longstanding links to the so-called LM network which emerged from the Revolutionary Communist Party in the late 1990s . Historian Evan Smith joined PTO to talk about the history of the RCP and the LM network, and the journey of its members from trotskyist revolutionary politics to the particular brand of libertarianism they espouse today.





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