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 Topic: Unelected "community" respesentatives. Is Azad Ali the tip of the iceberg?

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  • Unelected "community" respesentatives. Is Azad Ali the tip of the iceberg?
     OP - January 20, 2009, 09:02 AM

    Over the past few years in a noble attempt to neutralise institutional racism and encourage community cohesion the British government has been giving certain "community leaders" and "spokesmen" special access to some of the upper echelons of power.

    These "leaders and spokesmen" have been effectively given roles as civil servants and advisory positions for schools, the government and the police.

    Recently one of these "civil servant/advisors" Azad Ali was suspended for launching an astonishing verbal onslaught against the Government over its response to Israel's military strikes in Gaza and has suggested that killing British troops in Iraq is justified.

    Treasury official Azad Ali, president of the Civil Service Islamic Society, now faces the sack over the remarks. Cabinet Secretary Sir Gus ODonnell (who is the patron of the society) acted immediately after being alerted to the comments by The Mail on Sunday.

    Last week Mr Ali poured scorn on the British Government's call for a ceasefire and mocks official representatives of moderate British 'Muslims' (his quotation marks) who support them. He lambasts Foreign Secretary David Miliband for condemning Hamas leader Mahmoud Zahar for saying Jewish children are 'legitimate targets'.

    He added, "The (British) government is engaging with individuals who have no credibility in the community" "a motley crew who are nothing but self-serving vultures, feeding on the dead flesh of the Palestinians"

    Mr Ali said people who blame the Palestinians or Hamas for the Gaza attacks "are like sick men or women who blame the woman who has been raped, saying she brought it upon herself"

    Until his outburst, Mr Ali was regarded as a moderate Muslim who could help tackle Islamic fanaticism in Britain.

    The thing is Azad Ali has always quite obviously been an extremist yet he has had amazing access to the corridors of power, even advising the Met on the use of firearms.


    Here is a description of his extensive dealings with various governmental bodies:

    Azad Ali is married with 3 children and lives in East London; he has been a community activist for over 20 years. He is a presenter on Muslim Community Radio?s flagship show Easy Talk. Aziz is the former chair of the Muslim Safety Forum and currently leads on the Counter Terrorism work-team for the Forum, working with the Home Office, ACPO and Security Services. Azad is currently the President of the Civil Service Islamic Society and a Board Member of the London CrimeStoppers. He is also a Trustee of the East London Mosque & London Muslim Centre. He chairs the Muslim Council of Britain?s Membership Committee and is a member of its Central Working Committee. He is also the Vice-Chair of Canon Barnet School Board of Governors and Chair of the Saturday Islamic School Board of Governors. He sits on the Strategic Stop & Search Committee and Police Use of Firearms Group with the Met. Azad is also a member of the IPCC?s Community Advisory Group and the Home Office?s Trust and Confidence Community Panel.

    How are Islamists getting into such high positions?Huh?Huh?

    I think this policy of giving positions of power to undemocratically elected "Community spokesmen" is bad enough for a democracy even if those given the positions are quite benign but the thought of fully paid up anti Western theocratic Islamists stalking the corridors of power! Surely this is a national scandal.

     
  • Re: Unelected "community" respesentatives. Is Azad Ali the tip of the iceberg?
     Reply #1 - January 20, 2009, 09:49 AM

    Yes but if you offer them a nice cup of tea and some cake they'll come around after a bit of a chat, old chap.

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Unelected "community" respesentatives. Is Azad Ali the tip of the iceberg?
     Reply #2 - January 20, 2009, 10:15 AM

    It has always been my belief that this country is way too soft with the hardliners which is exactly why they have been able to hijack the mainstream Muslim communities in the U.K.

    Atheism is a non-prophet organization.

    The sleeper has awakened -  Dune

    Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day Give him a religion, and he'll starve to death while praying for a fish!
  • Re: Unelected "community" respesentatives. Is Azad Ali the tip of the iceberg?
     Reply #3 - January 20, 2009, 02:51 PM

    Yes there is the "nice cup of tea" approach of the old school but I fear this has more to do with the blindspot that liberals have where these extremists are concerned.

    Even after 911, 7.7 and Madrid liberals find it impossible to see anything but good in people from ethnic minorities.

    They are victims of our society after all!

    Liberals are to busy censoring themselves and others to actually notice the real dangerous nutters they are befriending.

    When anyone does blow the whistle about people like Azad Ali those same liberals don't see the light that the whistle blower has bought to their attention. Instead they see a nasty Islamophobe picking on the oppressed of the world.

    If that isn't a great big whopping blindspot I don't know what is.

  • Re: Unelected "community" respesentatives. Is Azad Ali the tip of the iceberg?
     Reply #4 - January 21, 2009, 12:24 AM

    Quote from: brucepig
    When anyone does blow the whistle about people like Azad Ali those same liberals don't see the light that the whistle blower has bought to their attention. Instead they see a nasty Islamophobe picking on the oppressed of the world.

    +1

    Islam: where idiots meet terrorists.
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