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 Topic: Hi, I'm Orlando Matamoros

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  • Hi, I'm Orlando Matamoros
     OP - November 30, 2010, 02:23 PM

    It is a pleasure to be a member of this forum and, as requested, I will now introduce myself.  I'm a Pakistani by birth - (a Rohilla Pathan originally from outside Rampur if anyone is interested).  My father was in the diplomatic service and I grew up thinking of myself as quite hispanic.   I learned Spanish as a kid and I learned about an entirely different way of looking at the world than my relatives and friends back in Isloo.

    As a Muslim and, by culture, a Latino, I had always loved swords.  The hardest part for me to give up as I realized Islam was The Great Deceit were the tales of the early battles, zul-fiqar, and the legacy of great swordsmanship and battle from the Rashidun to the Mughals.  Christians had their crusader heros, of course, Richard Coeur de leon, etc..., but Christians were always of two minds about the sword.  Christ told them that he who lives by it dies by it so Christians have never lived by the sword in the same way.  As a son of many generations of warriors, I was sad about that.

    With time and the seasoning of years, the flaying of hateful and irrational acquaintances, colleagues, lovers, and, yes, family, I finally came to realize that Christianity had its sword too. 

    I realized what it meant that Christ came not to bring peace but the sword.  I realized that by hiding my conversion from my family I was a coward - I was running from the sword that was waiting for me all the time.  I was living in fear of being a true warrior, a true Pathan.

    Now I have accepted it and every time I travel abroad I know there are those who would kill me for my faith.  I don't carry a sword to defend myself but I have a cross.  And it is funny that a sword and the cross have similar shapes.

    When I chose the name Orlando Matamoros, it was because Orlando is the Spanish form of Roland, the trumpeter of Charlemagne during the time of the incursion of The Darkness into France who gave his last blast of breath blowing his horn to alert his king that the moors were attacking from the rear.

    Matamoros is a nickname or epithet of St. James (Santiago).  Unlike those whose faith is simple and literal, I do not believe that this saint will send down a ghostly hand and pick up my keys for me when I've left them in the car.  But I can - and do -  pray that he will guard me from the next momin who opens fire in the shopping mall shouting the name of God's falsest prophet or from my cousins who dream of a U.S. visa just so they could come and kill me.

    But in the larger sense, I believe that the enterprise of moving away from Islam, one person, one family at a time is as august and dangerous - and inevitable - and beautiful - as ever any human venture was or will be.  And such a noble movement must have a patron spirit, a guiding narrative, a mythos, an avatar.

    Santiago Matamoros - Ora Pro Nobis.



  • Re: Hi, I'm Orlando Matamoros
     Reply #1 - November 30, 2010, 02:49 PM


    Interesting background, welcome to the forum Afro

    Most of the people here are atheist / agnostic. Are you evangelical in your Christian faith?

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Hi, I'm Orlando Matamoros
     Reply #2 - November 30, 2010, 02:54 PM

    Hi Orlando

    I realized what it meant that Christ came not to bring peace but the sword.

    You did?

     Afro

    That's the Christ I like:

    "I come not to bring peace, but to bring a sword"

    and

    "If anyone comes to Me, and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be My disciple."
  • Re: Hi, I'm Orlando Matamoros
     Reply #3 - November 30, 2010, 02:57 PM

    AmericanJesus.jpeg

    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: Hi, I'm Orlando Matamoros
     Reply #4 - November 30, 2010, 03:04 PM

    As a Muslim and, by culture, a Latino, I had always loved swords...


    Stopped reading right there.

    Yep, as a Muslim I always loved swords. Used to play with them as a baby, beheading the kafir dolls.

    Good times! Happy times!

  • Re: Hi, I'm Orlando Matamoros
     Reply #5 - November 30, 2010, 03:28 PM

    Here we are, born to be kings
    We're the princes of the universe
    Here we belong, fighting to survive
    In a war with the darkest power
    And here we are, we're the princes of the universe
    Here we belong, fighting for survival
    We've come to be the rulers of you all

    I am immortal, I have inside me blood of kings
    I have no rival, no man can be my equal
    Take me to the future of you all


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnrXiaPVeHY

    There can be only one

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Hi, I'm Orlando Matamoros
     Reply #6 - November 30, 2010, 04:08 PM

    Geez, I haven't heard that song in a long-ass time. I used to have the album on cassette tape. So was anyone here a fan of the Highlander syndicated series made in the 90s?

    fuck you
  • Re: Hi, I'm Orlando Matamoros
     Reply #7 - November 30, 2010, 04:17 PM

    I still have a crush on Adrian Paul, dude!

    He's no friend to the friendless
    And he's the mother of grief
    There's only sorrow for tomorrow
    Surely life is too brief
  • Re: Hi, I'm Orlando Matamoros
     Reply #8 - November 30, 2010, 05:42 PM

    I still have a crush on Adrian Paul, dude!

    How about Clancy Brown?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGNj1yR9eEY

    Sororitas... No sense of humor.

  • Re: Hi, I'm Orlando Matamoros
     Reply #9 - November 30, 2010, 06:02 PM

    *drool*

    The Kurgan was such an iconic movie badass.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGjSEvOLAoE

    "Mom"

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Hi, I'm Orlando Matamoros
     Reply #10 - November 30, 2010, 08:58 PM

    Matamoros is a nickname or epithet of St. James (Santiago).

    Yes I know. It means "Killer of Moors". Mass slaughter FTW. We have some "Moors" as registered members here. Have a nice day.

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Hi, I'm Orlando Matamoros
     Reply #11 - November 30, 2010, 10:42 PM

    welcome to this forum...
  • Re: Hi, I'm Orlando Matamoros
     Reply #12 - November 30, 2010, 11:08 PM

    Hello and sorry we got off on the wrong foot Tongue ... my bad.
  • Re: Hi, I'm Orlando Matamoros
     Reply #13 - December 01, 2010, 01:15 AM

    hi! Welcome to the forum.  Im not around much lately, but come in now from time to time.
    I hope you find solace, comfort, and kindred souls of whom you will find have the same
    scars on our hearts and hands as you. 

    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
  • Re: Hi, I'm Orlando Matamoros
     Reply #14 - December 01, 2010, 05:24 AM

    I realized what it meant that Christ came not to bring peace but the sword.


    That was one of the reasons why I left Christianity.   Not because I'm a peacenik (Trust me I'm no hippy)...  but you do realise that that verse means that Christ came to spread a message that was going to break families and pit father against son.  Practically I find any ideology that demands to be above family ties as obnoxious and repulsive.  So while you have my respects for being open and standing up for what you believe in, I simply ask you to open your eyes and not to be a different version of a fundamentalist.

    "Modern man's great illusion has been to convince himself that of all that has gone before he represents the zenith of human accomplishment, but can't summon the mental powers to read anything more demanding than emoticons. Fascinating. "

    One very horny Turk I met on the net.
  • Re: Hi, I'm Orlando Matamoros
     Reply #15 - December 01, 2010, 06:47 AM

     yes

    I'm sure we're all happy as clams that you've moved away from Islam (excepting a few stray Muslims that come around), but what is it about Christianity that is more believable to you than Islam? I'm confused about your whole sword argument, and though I think modern Christianity is a whole lot more peaceful than its predecessor, at its heart it springs from the same Middle-Eastern anthropomorphic, violent and divisive tribal imagery that Muhammad was influenced by and ran with. Don't forget to read the Old Testament!

    Nevertheless, welcome and never fear, we won't be coming around with our swords if you don't believe as we do!  Cheesy

    "Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it, you'd have good people doing good things and evil people doing bad things, but for good people to do bad things, it takes religion."~Steven Weinberg
  • Re: Hi, I'm Orlando Matamoros
     Reply #16 - December 01, 2010, 06:52 AM

    Hi Orlando Matamoros. Interesting name and interesting intro. Welcome to the forum.  Smiley

    "He hoped and prayed that there wasn't an afterlife. Then he realized there was a contradiction involved here and merely hoped that there wasn't an afterlife."
    ~ Douglas Adams
  • Re: Hi, I'm Orlando Matamoros
     Reply #17 - December 01, 2010, 08:22 AM

    yes

    I'm sure we're all happy as clams that you've moved away from Islam (excepting a few stray Muslims that come around), but what is it about Christianity that is more believable to you than Islam? I'm confused about your whole sword argument, and though I think modern Christianity is a whole lot more peaceful than its predecessor, at its heart it springs from the same Middle-Eastern anthropomorphic, violent and divisive tribal imagery that Muhammad was influenced by and ran with. Don't forget to read the Old Testament!

    Nevertheless, welcome and never fear, we won't be coming around with our swords if you don't believe as we do!  Cheesy



    Speak for yourself sister * unsheathes sword*
  • Re: Hi, I'm Orlando Matamoros
     Reply #18 - December 01, 2010, 09:20 AM

    Hi and welcome..

    what does the sword represent to you ?

    "Tomorrow is the today you were worried about yesterday" Unknown
  • Re: Hi, I'm Orlando Matamoros
     Reply #19 - December 01, 2010, 09:39 PM

    Speak for yourself sister * unsheathes sword*
    [/quote


    Heel, BlackDog, heel!!


    "Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it, you'd have good people doing good things and evil people doing bad things, but for good people to do bad things, it takes religion."~Steven Weinberg
  • Re: Hi, I'm Orlando Matamoros
     Reply #20 - December 01, 2010, 10:02 PM

    well i'm a moor and don't take too kindly to being slayed. so don't try it!
  • Re: Hi, I'm Orlando Matamoros
     Reply #21 - December 03, 2010, 07:10 PM

    *waves my jinni wand at serrated colon and puts him in a happy morphine trance*

    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
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