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  • Feeling angry
     OP - August 23, 2011, 07:41 PM

    Hi everyone,

    I'm a convert who until some months ago was an observant Muslim, and defending Islam from all criticism. But then someone of my (non-muslim) family passed away, and for the first time, I felt really angry with Islam, because it claims only Muslims will go to heaven, while my family member was such a good person. It went downhill from there. I had so many discussions with my fiancé, but always felt frustrated because Mohammed just can't do anything wrong in his eyes! I found so many hadiths that were just so wrong, and now I find it very hard to believe he was really a prophet of God. My fiancé asked me if I could find someone more merciful than him, and actually I think it's the easiest thing in the world to be more merciful than someone who stones people to death, allows the beating of children, slaughtered a jewish tribe, advocates the killing of non-muslims etc. I feel so so angry, and I don't know what to do with this anger. I guess I'm lucky I wasn't a born Muslim. The "only" person I need to leave (or who will leave me no doubt) is my fiancé. It breaks my heart but I'm tired of following Islam and trying to wrap my head around things that don't make sense.

  • Re: Feeling angry
     Reply #1 - August 23, 2011, 07:49 PM

    Welcome Riana! You deserve a perrot  parrot You seem to be a recent apostate, and I can imagine your doubts about Islam. I hope you will find support here. Be cautious and vigilant! And maybe you cpuld tell us some more about your circumstances!

    Religion is organized superstition
  • Re: Feeling angry
     Reply #2 - August 23, 2011, 07:51 PM

    Welcome :-)




    Little Fly, Thy summer's play
    My thoughtless hand has brushed away.

    I too dance and drink, and sing,
    Till some blind hand shall brush my wing.

    Therefore I am a happy fly,
    If I live or if I die.
  • Re: Feeling angry
     Reply #3 - August 23, 2011, 08:04 PM

    Why are you angry at Allah? You are not angry at Allah, but rather at the concept of Allah(tm) thought up by some ancient tribesmen, which entered v3.0 with the teachings of Muhammad and right now ,- 14 centuries later,- is at v3.3.5 (depending on exactly what your itiqaad's are.)

    Anyway, I've heared enough Muslims claim that the Qur'an supposedly says other people can enter jannat too, even though the Qur'an and ahadith are very clear.
    Good luck in your spiritual journey. Smiley

    I shouldn't be here. Really. Shaytan SWT deluded ALL of us. Amen.
  • Re: Feeling angry
     Reply #4 - August 23, 2011, 08:28 PM


    I'm a convert who until some months ago was an observant Muslim, and defending Islam from all criticism. But then someone of my (non-muslim) family passed away, and for the first time, I felt really angry with Islam, because it claims only Muslims will go to heaven,


    Christianity is the same though,  in general believing in Jesus Christ is necessary for salvation. Believing in Jesus Christ is the only thing that gives one eternal life, getting t to heaven by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone.
    So if you were a strict Christian you'd be told that as well.


    Teach us to care and not to care / Teach us to sit still.
    What do we live for; if it is not to make life less difficult to each other
    You are the music while the music lasts.
    T.S.Eliot
  • Re: Feeling angry
     Reply #5 - August 23, 2011, 08:30 PM

    Christianity is the same though,  in general believing in Jesus Christ is necessary for salvation. Believing in Jesus Christ is the only thing that gives one eternal life, getting t to heaven by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone.
    So if you were a strict Christian you'd be told that as well.




    And...?


    Formerly known as Iblis
  • Re: Feeling angry
     Reply #6 - August 23, 2011, 08:30 PM


    Anyway, I've heared enough Muslims claim that the Qur'an supposedly says other people can enter jannat too, even though the Qur'an and ahadith are very clear.
    Good luck in your spiritual journey. Smiley


    True,
    Surah Baqara 2:62:
    "Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve."

    Some argued about the tafsir of the surah above, but it says what it says...

    Teach us to care and not to care / Teach us to sit still.
    What do we live for; if it is not to make life less difficult to each other
    You are the music while the music lasts.
    T.S.Eliot
  • Re: Feeling angry
     Reply #7 - August 23, 2011, 08:32 PM

    Welcome to the forums Riana. Your story is really touching and I feel for your losses due to these realizations about Islam. I too have felt a great deal of anger towards Islam for the perverse way it had affected my life, but I find that this is a wonderful place to sublimate that anger into something constructive, namely learning more about this belief system while getting to know many other people who were affected by it just like me.

    Feel free to speak your mind in the discussions on this forum, have fun, and have a rabbit!  bunny

    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • Re: Feeling angry
     Reply #8 - August 23, 2011, 08:33 PM

    And...?




    Just saying, exclusivity of going to heaven to a specific group is not unique to Islam, other religions try this tactic as well.

    Teach us to care and not to care / Teach us to sit still.
    What do we live for; if it is not to make life less difficult to each other
    You are the music while the music lasts.
    T.S.Eliot
  • Re: Feeling angry
     Reply #9 - August 23, 2011, 08:35 PM

    If she stated she was converting to Christianity, that might be relevant.

    Formerly known as Iblis
  • Re: Feeling angry
     Reply #10 - August 23, 2011, 09:19 PM

    Anyone concerned to welcome a new member?  Smiley

    Religion is organized superstition
  • Re: Feeling angry
     Reply #11 - August 23, 2011, 09:27 PM

    Welcome  parrot it's upsetting to lose a loved one because of religious beliefs.

    ***~Church is where bad people go to hide~***
  • Re: Feeling angry
     Reply #12 - August 23, 2011, 09:36 PM

    I feel so so angry, and I don't know what to do with this anger. I guess I'm lucky I wasn't a born Muslim. The "only" person I need to leave (or who will leave me no doubt) is my fiancé. It breaks my heart but I'm tired of following Islam and trying to wrap my head around things that don't make sense.


    Welcome, my condolences on the death in your family.

    Yeah the idea that an Omnibenevolent deity would merciless torture large numbers of human beings for eternity is cruel and irrational.

    My personal advice would be to use the anger to motivate you to look into criticisms of Islam, and to study science and humanism. That's what I did, and I've found out some mind blowing and insightful things.

    I'd strongly advise you to watch this deconversion story. Although it's the story of a deconversion from Christianity, I found it really helped me to understand my own deconversion process - both intellectually and psychologically.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12rP8ybp13s&feature=channel_video_title

    And check out the 3 videos in my signature.

  • Re: Feeling angry
     Reply #13 - August 28, 2011, 01:36 PM

    Welcome Riana! Sorry to hear about your relative passing away but it looks like some 'good' came out of it, since it got you thinking. There are many like minded people here, so you will find this forum a great way to learn more, discuss or just vent when you're angry or upset. Maybe you'll be able to convince your fiance to change his mind.... maybe not.... who knows what the future will bring.... but for now, take your time to get over the hurt and anger and use it as an opportunity to get to grips with your fading faith.
    It is natural to feel angry, upset and frustrated. Hopefully in time, you will get over it Smiley

     far away hug

  • Re: Feeling angry
     Reply #14 - August 28, 2011, 02:52 PM

    welcome Riana

    I was an american convert, but thank goodness it did NOT involve a man,
    but a sincere desire to find god.

    Ask ANY ex muslim here who is married to a muslim, or lives at home with
    muslims just how "fun" it is.  With RARE exception, for the most part, they
    are in a living hell IMHO.

    GET OUT of that relationship while you are ahead.  You already see how he
    is NOW and you arent even married yet.

    But only you can decide what to do.  You have support here, and there are many
    threads that can validate what you already suspect.

    We will support you the best we can.

    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
  • Re: Feeling angry
     Reply #15 - August 28, 2011, 03:02 PM

    Welcome to the forum, Riana. hugs

    Often things happen in our lives that serve as the final trigger to get us thinking and lead to our eventual apostasy.  But invariably one already had doubts in their mind and cognitive dissonance which were just waiting for a trigger to snap.

    "Many people would sooner die than think; In fact, they do so." -- Bertrand Russell

    Baloney Detection Kit
  • Re: Feeling angry
     Reply #16 - August 28, 2011, 03:03 PM

    Welcome  Smiley
  • Re: Feeling angry
     Reply #17 - August 28, 2011, 05:26 PM

    Sorry for your loss .. hugs

    I have a family friend who was from a christian family, from Cambridge and she went travelling to Damascus where she converted and married a muslim man. However, when her father past away she somehow managed to convince herself that her father was truly a muslim at heart cause he was such a great person who just happened to never have come across Islam and apparently if you haven't been exposed to Islam then you are not liable for your sins etc.

    But I am glad to know that you came out of the shackles of Islam soon enough. I hope you know what you're sacrificing while committing your entire life for a muslim man who could either be man of your dreams or the man of your nightmares. lipsrsealed

    Just know you have all the support you need from this wonderful place called CEMB. far away hug
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