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  • Wasted Time
     OP - February 18, 2011, 01:45 AM
    So I was bored and decided that maybe I should calculate how much time a super devout Muslim would waste praying throughout a one year period (Excluding the time spent waking up for Fajr, and praying extra)

    Constants:

    Fajr: 15 minutes.
    Zhuhr: 23 minutes
    Asr:  23 minutes
    Maghrib: 18 minutes
    Isha: 23 minutes
    Juma: 45 minutes
    Getting to the Mosque and getting back FROM the mosque: 5 minutes
    Doing Wudu: 8 minutes a day
    Weeks in a year: 52

    ((15+23+18+23) * 7 + (23) * 6 + (45) + 8 * 7 + 2 * (5 * (5*7))) * 52 = 59384 minutes =  41.2 days
    % of life = 11.2%


    Well that sucks, for every year you pray devoutly, you lose a bit more than a month of your life. Could have done so much in a month's time. Not to mention the activities you could have done if you weren't interrupted for prayer every few hours.
  • Re: Wasted Time
     Reply #1 - February 18, 2011, 12:29 PM
    Hehe!  Some of those times are slightly high, but your point is still valid.

    Praying 5 times a day is probably the 2nd biggest reason for me rejecting Islam (the first being the hellfire for unbelievers, how cruel!)
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  • Re: Wasted Time
     Reply #2 - February 18, 2011, 12:49 PM
    Multiply it over decades and you've lost years to prayer!
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  • Re: Wasted Time
     Reply #3 - February 18, 2011, 01:00 PM
    What about people who work at night and therefore have to sleep during the day?  How are they supposed to pray?

    Muhammad didn't really think this through.
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  • Re: Wasted Time
     Reply #4 - February 18, 2011, 01:42 PM
    Quote from: Shahid Raza on February 18, 2011, 12:29 PM
    Hehe!  Some of those times are slightly high, but your point is still valid.

    +1   lol

    Performing prayers was a chore and a waste of time.  At university sometimes I felt a sense of serenity and peace through prayer, but that was because I felt self-righteous and loved by God.  I felt I was taking time out to go and please my maker and hence I felt I was better than non-practising Muslims. 015
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  • Re: Wasted Time
     Reply #5 - February 18, 2011, 04:31 PM
    What price felicity? If scraping one's head on the floor releases an ocean of blissful endorphins, as it did when I bowed and scraped, it's a prudent investment. If the use to which you put your time is more productive than the Muslims that might well be something in your favour, though what is more productive than cultivating one’s inner peace I don’t know if the object of life is happiness, but why do I get the distinct impression that if I computed all the hours  you daily squander hitting the refresh button on message boards that your web addiction might very well exceed the time a Muslim sister sticks her bottom in the nose of another? Just another wounded little chit who’s been jilted by a Fatima. That’s all. Like that other daft fish known in these parts as  Teapot who claims with no trace of irony that prayer was on the one hand  a “waste of time” and yet on the other conducive to “serenity and peace”. Well, well my little rabbit, which one is it? Don’t expect consistency from these intellectual gangsters. Pathetic.
  • Re: Wasted Time
     Reply #6 - February 18, 2011, 10:23 PM
    @Bison:

    What skanky scoundrel and manky mongoose you are.  I said "at university sometimes".  Meaning otherwise, I mostly found it a chore and a waste of time.  Read my post again.   piggy
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  • Re: Wasted Time
     Reply #7 - February 18, 2011, 10:43 PM
    For people genuinely enjoying the rituals of Salah it is (obviously) not a waste of time. As for those who don't enjoy it, but do it anyway as "Allah wants it, whether u like it or not", I feel pity for them.
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  • Re: Wasted Time
     Reply #8 - February 18, 2011, 10:46 PM
    Quote from: Steel on February 18, 2011, 01:45 AM
    So I was bored and decided that maybe I should calculate how much time a super devout Muslim would waste praying throughout a one year period (Excluding the time spent waking up for Fajr, and praying extra)

    Constants:

    Fajr: 15 minutes.
    Zhuhr: 23 minutes
    Asr:  23 minutes
    Maghrib: 18 minutes
    Isha: 23 minutes
    Juma: 45 minutes
    Getting to the Mosque and getting back FROM the mosque: 5 minutes
    Doing Wudu: 8 minutes a day


    Your numbers are a bit dodgy there! It takes the same amount of time to say Asr as it does for Isha and Zuhr?! Isha is only 5 minutes longer than Maghrib? And only 8 minutes for all the wudhu you do in the day?!

    Anyway, very good point you made!
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  • Re: Wasted Time
     Reply #9 - February 18, 2011, 11:07 PM
    If whole 2 billion people doing such stupid prayers 5 times day, Apart from that  loosing  15, 23, 18 , 23 , 45 minutes.,   apart from loosing 41.2 days a person's  work  life, you loose another 41 days  getting back to work/school  per year.

    No wonder Middle Eastern Business folks employ   Christians or Hindus from Indian subcontinent in their work place instead of Muslims..
     
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  • Re: Wasted Time
     Reply #10 - February 18, 2011, 11:43 PM
    Yeah, but you have to counterbalance those stats against how much time they save by not being on COEM
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  • Re: Wasted Time
     Reply #11 - February 18, 2011, 11:48 PM
    You can do the same for other things too.
    An average family member of mine in Canada would originally go to church on sunday and give $3.


    1 day a week x 52 weeks = 52 days
    52 days * $3 = $156

    Going to church at ages able to pay himself = around 50 years.
    Therefor

    $156 * 50 = $7800 to the church from one person in a lifetime.

    Them kicking themselves when they realize its a con....free.
  • Re: Wasted Time
     Reply #12 - February 18, 2011, 11:49 PM
    Quote from: Mixu Paatelainen on February 18, 2011, 10:46 PM
    Your numbers are a bit dodgy there! It takes the same amount of time to say Asr as it does for Isha and Zuhr?! Isha is only 5 minutes longer than Maghrib? And only 8 minutes for all the wudhu you do in the day?!

    Anyway, very good point you made!


    I dunno, I was going based on past experience. I was being a bit generous actually because I used to time this stuff and it took around 35 minutes to get to the mosque, wait for the prayer to start, do the prayer, sit down for about a minute (I don't know why people do that), find my slippers, and then go back home. And sometimes it would be 20 minutes to go til Isha when I got back from maghrib prayers. Ridiculous LOL.
  • Re: Wasted Time
     Reply #13 - February 19, 2011, 12:24 AM
    I used to do Ish'a in about 10 minutes. Surah ikhlas every rakat.

    Man praying! Lol I'd forgotten what it felt like to pray! It is both a chore and source of comfort sometimes. Almost like self-flaggelation to feel more humble.

    Worst thing is, making wudu, then farting just before you start praying. Talk about a waste of time (and water).
  • Re: Wasted Time
     Reply #14 - February 19, 2011, 12:27 AM
    Quote from: ateapotist on February 18, 2011, 10:23 PM
    @Bison:

    What skanky scoundrel and manky mongoose you are.  I said "at university sometimes".  Meaning otherwise, I mostly found it a chore and a waste of time.  Read my post again.   piggy

    LOL@Mongoose

    What does it matter? You maintain that Allah's boys are wasting their time when all you do is fritter away your salad days flirting with old men on message boards. When I was your age I was getting pussy. Do you even know what those look like? Poor widdle thing. Message boards are for the grey hairs like me and Maya to blow off some steam in between napping and gentle aerobics.

    You are a confused little chit. The towelheads draw spiritual sustenance from their activity, but you nothing. A grade A wimp. Give it a break.
  • Re: Wasted Time
     Reply #15 - February 19, 2011, 12:34 AM
    Quote from: Steel on February 18, 2011, 11:49 PM
    And sometimes it would be 20 minutes to go til Isha when I got back from maghrib prayers. Ridiculous LOL.


    Prayer is ridiculous. I remember after Jummah when the days were short there would be an announcement to say "brothers, please stay behind as we will be having Asr in about 15 minutes" then everyone would collectively think "SHIT!"  Cheesy
  • Re: Wasted Time
     Reply #16 - February 19, 2011, 12:39 AM
    @Bison:

    Oh no, darling.  I am intensely curious about pretty much everything.  I admit I'm a bit addicted to this forum.  In fact I was already thinking of taking a break to get some pussy or do more geeky things.  I too get endorphins from my activities, be they this forum, the chatroom, geeky stuff, sports, etc etc.  If the beardos get their endorphins from praying, good for them.  As I said, it wasn't doing it for me, except on certain occasions, like at university etc.
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  • Re: Wasted Time
     Reply #17 - February 19, 2011, 01:14 AM
    Praying 5 times a day is fard.  Browsing forums is not.  Wink

    Besides, don't assume that Muslims don't browse forums too.  Ummah.com anyone...?
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  • Re: Wasted Time
     Reply #18 - February 19, 2011, 04:45 AM
    Two hands at work can accomplish more than a thousand clapsed in prayer.
  • Re: Wasted Time
     Reply #19 - February 19, 2011, 01:12 PM
    Quote from: Mount A Bison on February 19, 2011, 12:27 AM
    Message boards are for the grey hairs like me and Maya to blow off some steam in between napping and gentle aerobics.

    You are a confused little chit. The towelheads draw spiritual sustenance from their activity, but you nothing. A grade A wimp. Give it a break.


    To be fair, I am not ashamed to admit I do get a sense spiritual sustenance from this site. An act doesn't have to be filled with prayer or prostration for it to be spiritual. Plus I think most of the forum members here have a good balance between having a life and discussing Islam, which is refreshing from most forums... *ummahforums, faithfreedom, cough*
  • Re: Wasted Time
     Reply #20 - February 19, 2011, 02:40 PM
    Fascinating.
  • Re: Wasted Time
     Reply #21 - February 19, 2011, 04:08 PM
    The thread title is "wasted time". We haven't found the cure for cancer because we were too busy sticking our arses in their air, losing sleep over hellfire, trying to get our shoes on after jummah prayer whilst getting knocked onto our arses, debating whether a hadith was strong or weak... in essence wasting time. We have all wasted our lives in the name of Allah in one way or another.

    I contend that prayer is not the main source of time-loss but rather guilt due to sinful acts. I believe that the layers of guilt which build up in a Muslim are like corrosive layers of rust which destroy his or her personality.

    Anyone who ever took the hadith "backbiting is like eating your brother's flesh" seriously should understand this.

    That said, I believe Muslims can do well in certain fields which do not conflict with their beliefs provided they are not particularly existential thinkers (which I believe a large number of this forum is, which is why we are here in the first place).
  • Re: Wasted Time
     Reply #22 - February 19, 2011, 05:07 PM
    @Eliphaz

    We are both agreed then prayer is not ipso facto culpable for squandering people's time. Gay porn eats into people's time more than salat. See, we are making progress. Now tell that to the daft kids above you.
  • Re: Wasted Time
     Reply #23 - February 19, 2011, 08:28 PM
    aahh,,prayer took me 7 minutes maximum in those fewer than  hundred times i did pray . my mind never grasped how Allah would require a human to go through specific motions for just that. Going through the motions. it was always hard to emphasize on your feeling of connectedness with allah while doing prayer. maybe because women pray at home  and men get a sense of unity or brotherhood doing it in a mosque along with a dozen others. i even tried applying a hadith that goes like , Imagine that all the prophets are on your right side, all the angels on your left, heaven in front of you, hell below you, the angel of death at your back and Allah (S.W.T.) watching over you....hardly helped! it merely proved to me i lacked depth in my relationship with god at the time  /lack of concentration/appreciation 
    at one point i was so disappointed in myself because i was sure i was a "dunya girl"
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  • Re: Wasted Time
     Reply #24 - February 19, 2011, 10:02 PM
    I just used to think about sex when I was praying. So i don't consider it wasted time.
  • Re: Wasted Time
     Reply #25 - March 01, 2011, 10:02 PM
    a girl i know posted on FB:" Why do all the things i need to do pop up during prayer?"

    I thought , it's probably a better use of your time .

    but one of the comments she got was , because you're in an inspired state.

    "Tomorrow is the today you were worried about yesterday" Unknown
  • Re: Wasted Time
     Reply #26 - March 01, 2011, 10:27 PM
    Quote from: Prince Spinoza on February 19, 2011, 10:02 PM
    I just used to think about sex when I was praying. So i don't consider it wasted time.


    Yeah I can see how having a row of men's arses in front of you might do that...  Cheesy
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