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  • "Jews turned to Monkeys & Pigs" (link from Hassan)
     OP - November 04, 2011, 11:34 PM
     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oV4StdyAats
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  • Re: "Jews turned to Monkeys & Pigs" (link from Hassan)
     Reply #1 - November 05, 2011, 12:15 AM
    Another good video. Afro

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  • Re: "Jews turned to Monkeys & Pigs" (link from Hassan)
     Reply #2 - November 05, 2011, 12:33 AM

    Allah could turn Jews into monkeys and pigs, but could he have turned a random pig or monkey into a Jew?

    Or is this wrathful transmutation only a one way street?

    Not very impressive, a one way only god, not so powerful after all, eh.

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  • Re: "Jews turned to Monkeys & Pigs" (link from Hassan)
     Reply #3 - November 05, 2011, 12:37 AM
    i never could swallow that bunk as a muslim lol.
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  • Re: "Jews turned to Monkeys & Pigs" (link from Hassan)
     Reply #4 - November 05, 2011, 02:17 AM
    This turning these Jews into monkeys and pigs at all but for such a senseless reason no less is an easy story to show to be rediculous.
    I guess simple stories appeal to simple minds,
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  • Re: "Jews turned to Monkeys & Pigs" (link from Hassan)
     Reply #5 - November 05, 2011, 02:40 AM
    great vid. love it.
  • Re: "Jews turned to Monkeys & Pigs" (link from Hassan)
     Reply #6 - November 06, 2011, 12:51 AM
    Quote from: Jinn and Tonic on November 05, 2011, 12:37 AM
    i never could swallow that bunk as a muslim lol.

    Aye, me neither. I always dismissed it as a metaphorical story, ignoring evidence to the contrary.
  • Re: "Jews turned to Monkeys & Pigs" (link from Hassan)
     Reply #7 - November 06, 2011, 03:26 AM
    What happened to the video?
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  • Re: "Jews turned to Monkeys & Pigs" (link from Hassan)
     Reply #8 - November 06, 2011, 08:45 AM
    Quote from: Lynna on November 05, 2011, 02:17 AM
    I guess simple stories appeal to simple minds,


    I'm not picking on you. But after making that statement I'm just curious if you believe in a literal interpretation of the Adam and Eve story, and Noah's flood.
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  • Re: "Jews turned to Monkeys & Pigs" (link from Hassan)
     Reply #9 - November 06, 2011, 02:24 PM
    Quote from: strangestdude on November 06, 2011, 08:45 AM
    I'm not picking on you. But after making that statement I'm just curious if you believe in a literal interpretation of the Adam and Eve story, and Noah's flood.


    Yes you are picking on me. I think I'll cry... LOL

    Adam and Eve? As in creation? Yes I believe in creation. however not 6 literal days that's obvious enough. The "day" of God's rest from creating things on the earth is already 6000 year more or less. Adam was not ever a clay figure but was made from chemicals already common/present on the earth. The important part of the creation account in the Bible is not how it  occurred  but why it occurred.

    I believe a world wide flood was possible. Was ever detail of how everthing that occurred encluded in the account. No it doesn't tell us how the animals got back all over the world. That however is not the important part of the account,

    With the story of the Jews being turned to monkeys and pigs there was no point to what was happening. There was no blessing or malediction. They were being set up for failure with no way out and the God of Bible doesn't do that and then punish. Then what kind of thing is being turned in to a monkey or pig for three days. Additionally the punishment had to do with Sabbath Laws that were no long in effect during the life time of Mohommad because that was after Jesus life when the Law was fulfilled.

    Just short answer because I didn't give it hours of thought.

    I have forgotten the other thread. I have something to put on it.
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  • Re: "Jews turned to Monkeys & Pigs" (link from Hassan)
     Reply #10 - November 06, 2011, 04:59 PM
    Quote from: Lynna on November 06, 2011, 02:24 PM
    I believe a world wide flood was possible. Was ever detail of how everthing that occurred encluded in the account. No it doesn't tell us how the animals got back all over the world. That however is not the important part of the account,


    I don't think you are justified in proclaiming muslims who believe in that jews were literally turned into pigs and monkeys as simple minded if you believe in a literal account of Noah's flood.

    It is the most absurd story I've ever come across - it was so absurd it motivated me to directly challenge my beliefs and actually led to my apostasy. 

    This vid rips apart the story, via humour and intelligent discussion
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IF9Xn5m2OGg

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I225Vcs3X0g

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_BzWUuZN5w

    I honestly have a difficult time respecting the intellect of adults who actually believe that story.
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  • Re: "Jews turned to Monkeys & Pigs" (link from Hassan)
     Reply #11 - November 06, 2011, 05:10 PM
    well i'm not sure if there even WAS a global flood, but doesn't mean that a global flood isn't possible. All it takes is enough of the polar ice caps to melt and most lands will be submerged in water.
  • Re: "Jews turned to Monkeys & Pigs" (link from Hassan)
     Reply #12 - November 06, 2011, 05:14 PM
    I'm talking about the whole story.
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  • Re: "Jews turned to Monkeys & Pigs" (link from Hassan)
     Reply #13 - November 06, 2011, 05:15 PM
    Quote from: billy on November 05, 2011, 12:33 AM
    Allah could turn Jews into monkeys and pigs, but could he have turned a random pig or monkey into a Jew?


    if you believe in evolution, then the answer is sort of yes. since we've all developed from primates then the jews are part of the same lineage. but then so are the moslems, and many still act like pigs.
  • Re: "Jews turned to Monkeys & Pigs" (link from Hassan)
     Reply #14 - November 06, 2011, 05:19 PM
    Quote from: nothingthere on November 06, 2011, 05:15 PM
    if you believe in evolution, then the answer is sort of yes. since we've all developed from primates then the jews are part of the same lineage. but then so are the moslems, and many still act like pigs.


    why is it so hard for muslims to believe that humans came from monkeys yet it is so easy for them to believe that Allah turned some humans into monkeys?  Huh?
  • Re: "Jews turned to Monkeys & Pigs" (link from Hassan)
     Reply #15 - November 06, 2011, 05:24 PM
    because that bit is not in the holy book or some hadith. moslems can only go as far as the book lets them. beyond that lies the temptations of satan and the perfect recipe to be scorched perpetually in the god's house of pain.
  • Re: "Jews turned to Monkeys & Pigs" (link from Hassan)
     Reply #16 - November 06, 2011, 05:25 PM
    Quote from: truth_seeker on November 06, 2011, 05:19 PM
    why is it so hard for muslims to believe that humans came from monkeys yet it is so easy for them to believe that Allah turned some humans into monkeys?  Huh?

    Arrogance, I would think.
  • Re: "Jews turned to Monkeys & Pigs" (link from Hassan)
     Reply #17 - November 07, 2011, 12:50 AM
    Quote from: strangestdude on November 06, 2011, 04:59 PM
    I don't think you are justified in proclaiming muslims who believe in that jews were literally turned into pigs and monkeys as simple minded if you believe in a literal account of Noah's flood.

    It is the most absurd story I've ever come across - it was so absurd it motivated me to directly challenge my beliefs and actually led to my apostasy. 

    This vid rips apart the story, via humour and intelligent discussion

    I honestly have a difficult time respecting the intellect of adults who actually believe that story.



    Interesting videos, but they by no means 'rip apart' the account of the global flood.
    The videos didn't have the size of the ark correct or the length of time to build it. They did not address the length of time from the directions to build it to the beginning of the rain. It was not addressed that the animals likely had no fear of man (or each other) before the flood. It is very likely that the surface of the earth was different before the weight of the flood water changed it. I'm not sure how they determined number of animals but I have seen it so it works out. The ark was huge. For example every kind of domestic dog could come on with just the pair of wolves. One video made fun of the age of Noah but science can find no reason for people to grow old and is searching for ways to make humans live into their hundreds of years. Do you laugh at that? But like I have already said another important part of the account.

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  • Re: "Jews turned to Monkeys & Pigs" (link from Hassan)
     Reply #18 - November 07, 2011, 02:14 AM
    Quote from: Prince Spinoza on November 06, 2011, 05:25 PM
    Arrogance, I would think.


    Nah, because one affirms the faith the other undermines it. 
    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
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  • Re: "Jews turned to Monkeys & Pigs" (link from Hassan)
     Reply #19 - November 07, 2011, 02:34 AM
    Jews (about 12 million) have won more than 120 Nobel Prizes while Muslims (more than 1.2 billion) have only six. One Nobel Prize for 100,000 Jews and one Nobel Prize for 200,000,000 Muslims. I rather be a Jew, a smart monkey.
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  • Re: "Jews turned to Monkeys & Pigs" (link from Hassan)
     Reply #20 - November 09, 2011, 12:20 PM
    Quote from: Lynna on November 07, 2011, 12:50 AM
    It was not addressed that the animals likely had no fear of man (or each other) before the flood.


    So they behaved in a way that defies all research in zoology?

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    It is very likely that the surface of the earth was different before the weight of the flood water changed it.


    Normally the only people who I've come across who support the notion that the story of Noah's flood happened are christians who attempt to fit science around their pre-conceived conclusion.

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    I'm not sure how they determined number of animals but I have seen it so it works out.


    Please provide how it works out. Also are you claiming that the story of Noah's flood doesn't contradict scientific research?

    You also haven't addressed the issue of how Noah and his family got literally millions of species of non-aquatic and aquatic living organisms from across the world to aboard the Ark? (the significant changes in water conditions due to global flooding would have killed much aquatic life, so they would have to come aboard the ark)

    What did the animals eat (especially the carnivorous animals)?

    How did they all survive at such a high altitude?
     
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    One video made fun of the age of Noah but science can find no reason for people to grow old and is searching for ways to make humans live into their hundreds of years.


    Have you every known of a verified 600 year old man, or even a 200 year old man? Would you believe anyone if they told you they were 600 years old?

    Do you also believe that giants roamed the earth like it says in Genesis (serious question)?

    Even if Jehovah exists it's appalling that he drowned men, women and infants - I couldn't love an entity that would drown almost every inhabitant of the planet because they displeased him.

    Why do you think that drowning the world's population of children was justified?
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  • Re: "Jews turned to Monkeys & Pigs" (link from Hassan)
     Reply #21 - November 09, 2011, 12:27 PM
    Quote from: Ram on November 07, 2011, 02:34 AM
    Jews (about 12 million) have won more than 120 Nobel Prizes while Muslims (more than 1.2 billion) have only six. One Nobel Prize for 100,000 Jews and one Nobel Prize for 200,000,000 Muslims. I rather be a Jew, a smart monkey.

    Hmm.. off course.. off course ..

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  • Re: "Jews turned to Monkeys & Pigs" (link from Hassan)
     Reply #22 - November 09, 2011, 12:33 PM
    Quote from: Lynna on November 07, 2011, 12:50 AM
    Interesting videos, but they by no means 'rip apart' the account of the global flood.

    The geological record rips the flood story apart. Grin
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  • Re: "Jews turned to Monkeys & Pigs" (link from Hassan)
     Reply #23 - November 09, 2011, 03:44 PM
    Quote from: osmanthus on November 09, 2011, 12:33 PM
    The geological record rips the flood story apart. Grin


    I'm sure you have a lot of example of this but how about a few easy ones that I can look at to start with. (you know I'm a little slow on the uptake) However, I'm usually up to looking into information.
    If at first you succeed...try something harder.

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  • Re: "Jews turned to Monkeys & Pigs" (link from Hassan)
     Reply #24 - November 11, 2011, 02:07 AM
    Quote from: yeezevee on November 09, 2011, 12:27 PM
    Hmm.. off course.. off course ..

    You want to be a God.. Mr. Ram.,  We all know that, tell us something new....

    I am on course, not off course. I am God, I can be Monkey if I so desire.
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